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Me, too - but the show pointed out that children believe commercials.
Junk food is the "normal" snack food for kids now. Other countries have banned junk food ads aimed at children. Patricia Heil wrote in message ... So are we automatons who buy everything the TV tells us to buy? Not me. I don't buy anything, literally or figuratively, until I've checked it out for myself. Beverly wrote: Peter Jennings aired a very interesting show on ABC this evening titled "How to get fat without even trying". Here's a summary of the show. It dealt with the food industry and it's contributions to the overweight epidemic in America. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/L..._031208-1.html |
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Brad Sheppard wrote:
Me, too - but the show pointed out that children believe commercials. Junk food is the "normal" snack food for kids now. Other countries have banned junk food ads aimed at children. When my children attended public school - cupcakes, donuts, and candy bars were often used as incentives to pay attention in class. A substitute teacher in my son's class used that *daily*. It's no wonder when I saw the boring presentation of the assignments. But still, things like that should be the sole discretion of the PARENT, not the teacher. |
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Ignoramus6480 wrote:
In article , Crafting Mom wrote: Ignoramus6480 wrote: Hey CM, what happened? You are getting back on the wagon, what's going on? Yep, I fell off. I am getting back on to what *worked* for me (not only for some stupid number on a scale, but for how I FELT). I'm back on low carb as my _baseline_ diet, with 1-2 servings of fresh fruit (the fruit, not the juice) added to it. Going off a diet that I know *works* in every respect was a foolish mistake on my part. But it keeps me human I'm living proof that it's going OFF the diet that doesn't work, NOT the diet in and of itself. CM I am curious as to what actually happened. I am not lowcarbing -- my standard breakfast is sandwiches -- but I do not eat certain foods and I am curious as to how hard it is to "get back on the bandwagon" if I eat them. Well, it is very hard to "get back on". I don't eat glutenous grains, and did not, even when I fell off. But I did allow myself to eat things containing refined sugar. It is extremely hard. It is going to take at least another week without it for the desire to go away (I've had the desire go away before after prolonged periods without) |
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I agree completely. Perple Gyrl wrote: Its almost impossible to escape, even if you turn the tv off. It is on billboards, in magazines, in store displays. The kids would have to be raised by mormons in the country with no electricity to not be exposed. I think that parents should take more of the responsibility in making sure the kids understand nutrition and consequences. -- Email me at: perpleglow(AT)comcast.net http://community.webshots.com/user/perpleglow "Carol Frilegh" wrote in message ... In article , Ignoramus25226 wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/L..._031208-1.html Without even seeing this show, we know who is to blame. America and it's health care system and grain agri-mega-culture bosses and lobbysists and food processors and advertising agencies have brainwashed a passive, lazy public into thinking they need a lot of things to make them feel adaquate and happy. Most of the things are chemical or nutritional trash, trans fatty acids, sugars and starches and the garbage the packaging companies to created in the form of wrappings to clutter up dumpsites or burn in incinerators and generate toxic smoke. We are the envy of the world and the clothes horses for extra large sizes and candidates for angioplasty. Our TV screens are cluttered up with ads for medications to make us bounce along a beach, hand in hand, and the horrible possible side effects must also be prominently displayed on the screen. People think the new RAW food is oh so trendy when man subsisted on it originally. Others aren't happy with the existing food oils, they have to genetically modify rapseed with no concern for the fact that changing one molecule can effect the others, but they don't know just how. Kids think the best machines are the vending monsters in their schools, funded for athletics by the soft drink companies. The final insult is the legion of supermodels flaunting stick slender figures floated by blobs of silicone as they prance down runways clad in clothes that don't fit anyone but anorexics. Peter Finch had the right idea in the Paddy Chayefsky movie about TV, "Network". Turn it off, turn it all off NOW! (Shall I tell you how i really feel ? :-) -- Diva ******** There Is No Triumph Without Loss! |
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No, but when the kid tells mom or dad to stop at McDonald's, or buy junk at the grocery store, I agree with your other post -- it is up to the parent to say what I spend my money on is not going to be junk. I also think that if the parent is packing a lunch, Lunchables should not be in it, and if the kid's allowance disappears like nothing, the parent shouldn't be giving them extra money. My brother has his girls put part of their allowance into savings, part into school supplies, etc. He is not going to increase their allowance without knowing what they spend their money on. Perple Gyrl wrote: I agree. However, I am not a parent but I am assuming that it is hard for a parent to monitor their kids 24/7 though. -- Email me at: perpleglow(AT)comcast.net http://community.webshots.com/user/perpleglow "jmk" wrote in message ... Well, part of the point that they were trying to make is that kids don't understand marketing (that someone is trying to get them to buy something, may not be telling the whole truth, may be making exagerated claims, etc.). There is no debate over the fact that kids don't understand this. The debate is over when they do. Kraft Foods says 6 yo. Others think that it's a lot closer to 10 yo. "Last year there were more than 2,800 new candies, desserts, ice creams and snacks on the market — but only 230 new fruit or vegetable products." The show (and article at http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/L..._031208-1.html) went on to say: "The average American child sees 10,000 food advertisements a year on television alone, and most of those advertisements are for fast food, sugarcoated cereal, soft drinks and candy, and other foods dense in fat and calories." So yes, parents need to (1) set a good example and (2) help their kids to understand it but there is a limit to what kids of different ages will be able to understand (not exactly rocket science, I know). On 12/9/2003 1:30 AM, Perple Gyrl wrote: Its almost impossible to escape, even if you turn the tv off. It is on billboards, in magazines, in store displays. The kids would have to be raised by mormons in the country with no electricity to not be exposed. I think that parents should take more of the responsibility in making sure the kids understand nutrition and consequences. -- Email me at: perpleglow(AT)comcast.net http://community.webshots.com/user/perpleglow "Carol Frilegh" wrote in message ... In article , Ignoramus25226 wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/L..._031208-1.html Without even seeing this show, we know who is to blame. America and it's health care system and grain agri-mega-culture bosses and lobbysists and food processors and advertising agencies have brainwashed a passive, lazy public into thinking they need a lot of things to make them feel adaquate and happy. Most of the things are chemical or nutritional trash, trans fatty acids, sugars and starches and the garbage the packaging companies to created in the form of wrappings to clutter up dumpsites or burn in incinerators and generate toxic smoke. We are the envy of the world and the clothes horses for extra large sizes and candidates for angioplasty. Our TV screens are cluttered up with ads for medications to make us bounce along a beach, hand in hand, and the horrible possible side effects must also be prominently displayed on the screen. People think the new RAW food is oh so trendy when man subsisted on it originally. Others aren't happy with the existing food oils, they have to genetically modify rapseed with no concern for the fact that changing one molecule can effect the others, but they don't know just how. Kids think the best machines are the vending monsters in their schools, funded for athletics by the soft drink companies. The final insult is the legion of supermodels flaunting stick slender figures floated by blobs of silicone as they prance down runways clad in clothes that don't fit anyone but anorexics. Peter Finch had the right idea in the Paddy Chayefsky movie about TV, "Network". Turn it off, turn it all off NOW! (Shall I tell you how i really feel ? :-) -- Diva ******** There Is No Triumph Without Loss! -- jmk in NC |
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You hit on part of it. Peer pressure is killing us. We have to grow up and learn not to do things just because of what other people think. Crafting Mom wrote: Patricia Heil wrote: So are we automatons who buy everything the TV tells us to buy? Not me. I don't buy anything, literally or figuratively, until I've checked it out for myself. I don't own a tv, but lack of a television isn't a leakproof shield. One would have to inhabit a cave in a distant land to avoid all the pressure one gets. I don't even have to BUY junk food or sweets or anything to have it available as a staple in a diet grin. Just go to practically any social setting, and tables are laden with cookies, cakes, potato chips, sweets, soda pops all as social niceties that have been quite standard for a long time. I don't eat any of those things, but the constant pressure is certainly there. And where I am, NOT eating those things makes you VERY different. It's less of a hassle for me, because I'm content with being very different, and don't have a threat of "but people will think you are weird" hanging over my head, because I could care less. That is helping me get back on the wagon. It's my body, and if people are going to think I am weird, then so be it. |
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I agree. The parent has to take responsibility. The parents of that school should be after the principal to change this. But on the other hand, if the principal is under pressure from the school board to put junk food machines in the cafeteria, then it's a district problem and needs a different solution. Crafting Mom wrote: Brad Sheppard wrote: Me, too - but the show pointed out that children believe commercials. Junk food is the "normal" snack food for kids now. Other countries have banned junk food ads aimed at children. When my children attended public school - cupcakes, donuts, and candy bars were often used as incentives to pay attention in class. A substitute teacher in my son's class used that *daily*. It's no wonder when I saw the boring presentation of the assignments. But still, things like that should be the sole discretion of the PARENT, not the teacher. |
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Ignoramus6480 wrote:
1. Did eating sugar make you feel worse objectively (other than feeling guilty etc). Did you have headaches, wild appetite swings, etc, things that can be measured? It made me a) want more sugar, b) more depressed, c) energetic followed by lethargic which made me a) ..... 2. When you say that it is hard to get back on, what do you mean (not having experienced this I do not understand). If you simply do not put that stuff in your mouth, what happens? Gradually, over time, the desire to eat it will diminish. It's happened many times before, and it can happen again. The longer I go without, the less the desire is there. CM |
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"Perple Gyrl" wrote in message news I agree. However, I am not a parent but I am assuming that it is hard for a parent to monitor their kids 24/7 though. The good news is that if you teach your children to have relatively good eating habits, you don't need to monitor them 24/7. My 6 yr old daughter packs her own lunch. She has a drawer and cupboard with things like crackers, fruit leather, granola bars, etc. Then in the fridge I always have a selection of hard boiled eggs, yogurt, fresh fruit, cheese sticks, fruit cups, etc. She does a great job of packing her lunch. Her usual breakfast is oatmeal, or toast and scrambled eggs. Of course, we have pizza sometimes, eat oreo cookies and ice cream, etc. I don't find it neccessary to eliminate that stuff from the house, but make sure that eating is balanced most of the time. Eating is an important aspect of health, but staying active is also very important. I'm teaching my daughter to ski this year so that we will have a family activity throughout the yucky weather months, and we all have bicycles so we do alot of riding during the spring and summer too. det |
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Peter Finch had the right idea in the Paddy Chayefsky movie about TV, "Network". Turn it off, turn it all off NOW! (Shall I tell you how i really feel ? :-) -- Diva and then he ran to the window, opened it and screamed: "i'm not going to take it anymore!" |
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