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Diet Soda [aspartame] Dangerous? Shari Lieberman, The O'Reilly Factor
3.19.4: Murray 3.23.4 rmforall

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114880,00.html

Dr. Shari Lieberman
http://www.drshari.net

Diet Soda Dangerous? Monday, March 22, 2004

This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," March 19, 2004 that
has been edited for clarity.

Watch The O'Reilly Factor weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen to
the Radio Factor!

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Back of the Book" Segment tonight, Americans
drink billions of gallons of diet soda a year. It's incredible how much we
consume. And some believe millions of Americans are addicted to the stuff.
They have to have it.

With us now is Dr. Shari Lieberman, a certified nutrition specialist here in
New York City.

All right. So it's -- 10 billion cases of soda sold every year in the USA,
and 30 percent of that, approximately, is diet soda, and I know people who
walk around all day long drinking diet soda. What is that all about?

SHARI LIEBERMAN, PH.D., CERTIFIED NUTRITION SPECIALIST:
It's unbelievable. It is such an addicting substance. You have both the
aspartame, the NutraSweet, combined with the caffeine. You're basically
getting a rush all day. It actually messes with your brain chemicals, Bill.

O'REILLY: Does it really?

LIEBERMAN: It really does. You know, aspartic acid actually makes what we
call excitatory neurotransmitters. Imagine we have a balance of ones that
calm us down and ones that hype us up.

So, if you're drinking something that's going to make the ones that are
excitatory or making us hyper all day long, that's why there are so many
side effects associated with NutraSweet, such as irritability and anxiety.

I mean people are basically getting a rush all day from drinking this.

O'REILLY: OK. So, if you're drinking diet soda all day long or, say, you're
drinking, you know, 48 ounces, 50 ounces a day, which a lot of people do...

LIEBERMAN: They do.

O'REILLY: ... you are basically -- it's an upper.

LIEBERMAN: It's an upper. Exactly. And guess what happens when you run out
of it? It's a crasher...

O'REILLY: Is that right?

LIEBERMAN: ... and then you need an upper.

O'REILLY: You feel bad after it.

Now is this physically addicting, do you believe, or is it psychological?

LIEBERMAN: I believe it's physically addicting. You know, we know that
caffeine is. So you've got a ton of caffeine in the diet sodas. Then you
actually have a substance that's affecting neurotransmitters. So they're
really getting a double whammy, and, of course, we're talking about people
that are drinking it all day long.

O'REILLY: Yes, and they think that, well, I can drink it all day long
because there's no calories in it, I'm not going to get fat. Go ahead.

LIEBERMAN: I have to tell you something about that. If you look at the
research, people that drink diet sodas are oftentimes eating more calories
than people drinking regular sodas.

O'REILLY: But they're eating them.

LIEBERMAN: It actually increases...

O'REILLY: You know, that's -- they're eating.

LIEBERMAN: It seems to increase...

O'REILLY: You can't get fat drinking diet soda.

LIEBERMAN: It's not that you get fat, Bill. I think it's the...

O'REILLY: Bloated.

LIEBERMAN: ... taste of the sweet. It keeps you so addicted. They seem to
eat more carbohydrates throughout the day when they're drinking diet soda.
Go figure.

O'REILLY: What other physical things -- if you're consuming a lot of diet
soda, what happens to your body?

LIEBERMAN: Well, you also can get a certain amount of methanol, which is the
more toxic alcohol. That's a byproduct of NutraSweet and aspartame, if
you're drinking a lot of it, and that's a wood alcohol that's actually
rather toxic and can cause some problems as well. So you have a substance
that, when you're taking in really large amounts, is going to affect your
chemistry, your brain chemistry, your...

O'REILLY: Your body chemistry and...

LIEBERMAN: Exactly. Your body chemistry.

O'REILLY: OK. Now there are no warnings on any of the soda labels, and
nobody says any of this. But, you know, I -- and I wanted to do the story
because, anecdotally, I've seen people, you know, in the office here and all
of that, drink diet soda after diet soda after diet soda.

LIEBERMAN: Well, who did my makeup today actually said to me she's drinking
a ton of diet soda and is suffering from migraines. There are reports of
migraines and fibromyalgia and certain illnesses disappearing when people go
off diet sodas. So, I mean, there is a relationship between taking in a lot
of this stuff -- we're not talking about the occasional user.

O'REILLY: No.

LIEBERMAN: But if -- you know, once again, you've got these excited neurons
in your head, and it is related to migraines and fibromyalgia and a number
of other illnesses that have been shown to go away.

O'REILLY: Right. And it doesn't do any -- your teeth any good either?

LIEBERMAN: It really -- it doesn't protect your teeth like Xylitol and some
of the other sweeteners.

O'REILLY: All right, Doctor. I knew drinking 50 ounces of that stuff wasn't
good.

LIEBERMAN: You were right, Bill.

O'REILLY: You know, one Dr. Pepper once in a while, fine, but, you know,
leave the six-pack home.

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1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505 USA 505-986-9103

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1059
foxnews.com, The O'Reilly Factor, Shari Lieberman, diet soft drinks
(aspartame), Friday March 19 2004: Mike: Martini: Murray 3.21.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1063
positive response to Lieberman on The O'Reilly Factor:
Lieberman: Murray 3.22.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/927
Donald Rumsfeld, 1977 head of Searle Corp., got aspartame FDA approval:
Turner: Murray 12.23.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1039
three-page review: aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity:
Murray 11.22.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1026
brief aspartame review: formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 9.11.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/989 On 4.10.2003
the European Union Parliament voted 440 to 20 to approve sucralose,
limit cyclamates & reevaluate aspartame & stevia: Murray 4.12.3 rmforall

http://google.com gives 221,000 websites for "aspartame" , with the top
9 of 10 listings being anti-aspartame, while
http://groups.google.com finds on 700 MB of posts from 20 years of
Usenet groups, 83,800 posts, the top 10 being anti-aspartame.

http://news.google.com 28 recent aspartame items from 4500 sources.
http://www.AllTheWeb.com gives 291,700, the top 7 of 10 being
leading and very well informed volunteer anti-aspartame sites.
http://teoma.com/index.asp gives 85,700 websites, top 8 of 10 anti.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed lists 751 aspartame items.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1025
aspartame & formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 9.9.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages
for 1064 posts in a public searchable archive 120 members

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/messages 774 with 16,660 posts

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1047
Avoiding Hangover Hell 12.31.3 Mark Sherman, AP writer: Robert Swift, MD:
[formaldehyde from methanol in aspartame]: Murray 1.16.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1048
hangovers from formaldehyde from methanol (aspartame?):
Schwarcz: Linsley: Murray 1.18.4

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1052
DMDC: Dimethyl dicarbonate 200mg/L in drinks adds methanol 98 mg/L
( becomes formaldehyde in body ): EU Scientific Committee on Foods 7.12.1:
Murray 1.22.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1024
aspartame review: methanol, formaldehyde, formic acid toxicity:
Murray 9.5.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/910
formaldehyde & formic acid from methanol in aspartame:
Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall

It is certain that high levels of aspartame use, above 2 liters daily
for months and years, must lead to chronic formaldehyde-formic acid
toxicity, since 11% of aspartame (1,120 mg in 2L diet soda, 5.6 12-oz
cans) is 123 mg methanol (wood alcohol), immediately released into the
body after drinking (unlike the large levels of methanol locked up in
molecules inside many fruits), then quickly transformed into
formaldehyde, which in turn becomes formic acid, both of which in
time are partially eliminated as carbon dioxide and water.

However, about 30% of the methanol remains in the body as cumulative
durable toxic metabolites of formaldehyde and formic acid-- 37 mg daily,
a gram every month. [Metabolism of aspartame in monkeys.
Oppermann JA, Muldoon E, Ranney RE.
J. Nutrition 1973 Oct; 103(10): 1454-1459.]
If 10% of the methanol is retained as formaldehyde, that would give 12
mg daily formaldehyde accumulation, about 60 times more than the 0.2 mg
from 10% retention of the 2 mg EPA daily limit for formaldehyde in water.

Bear in mind that the EPA limit for formaldehyde in drinking water is
1 ppm, or 2 mg daily for a typical daily consumption of 2 L of water.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/835
RTM: ATSDR: EPA limit 1 ppm formaldehyde in drinking water July 1999
5.30.2 rmforall

This long-term low-level chronic toxic exposure leads to typical
patterns of increasingly severe complex symptoms, starting with
headache, fatigue, joint pain, irritability, memory loss, and
leading to vision and eye problems, and even seizures. In many cases
there is addiction. Probably there are immune system disorders, with a
hypersensitivity to these toxins and other chemicals.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/782
RTM: Smith, Terpening, Schmidt, Gums:
full text: aspartame, MSG, fibromyalgia 1.17.2 rmforall
Jerry D Smith, Chris M Terpening, Siegfried OF Schmidt, and John G Gums
Relief of Fibromyalgia Symptoms Following
Discontinuation of Dietary Excitotoxins.
The Annals of Pharmacotherapy 2001; 35(6): 702-706.
Malcolm Randall Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Gainesville, FL, USA.
BACKGROUND: Fibromyalgia is a common rheumatologic disorder that is
often difficult to treat effectively.
CASE SUMMARY: Four patients diagnosed with fibromyalgia syndrome
for two to 17 years are described.
All had undergone multiple treatment
modalities with limited success. All had complete, or nearly complete,
resolution of their symptoms within months after eliminating monosodium
glutamate (MSG) or MSG plus aspartame from their diet.
All patients were women with multiple comorbidities
prior to elimination of MSG.
All have had recurrence of symptoms whenever MSG is ingested.

Siegfried O. Schmidt, MD Asst. Clinical Prof.
Community Health and Family Medicine, U. Florida, Gainesville, FL
Shands Hospital West Oak Clinic Gainesville, FL 32608-3629
352-376-5071

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/846
RTM: aspartame in Merck Maxalt-MLT worsens migraine,
AstraZeneca Zomig, Eli Lilly Zyprexa,
J&J Merck Pepcid AC (Famotidine 10mg) Chewable Tab,
Pfizer Cool Mint Listerine Pocketpaks 7.16.2 rmforall
Migraine MLT-Down: an unusual presentation of migraine
in patients with aspartame-triggered headaches.
Newman LC, Lipton RB Headache 2001 Oct; 41(9): 899-901.
[Merck 10-mg Maxalt-MLT, for migraine, has 3.75 mg aspartame,
while 12 oz diet soda has 200 mg.]
Headache Institute, St. Lukes-Roosevelt Hospital Center, New York, NY
Department of Neurology
Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY
Innovative Medical Research


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/855
RTM: Blumenthall & Vance:
aspartame chewing gum headaches Nov 1997 7.28.2 rmforall
Harvey J. Blumenthal, MD, Dwight A Vance, RPh
Chewing Gum Headaches.
Headache 1997 Nov-Dec; 37(10): 665-6.
Department of Neurology, University of Oklahoma College of Medicine,
Tulsa, USA.
Aspartame, a popular dietetic sweetener, may provoke headache in some
susceptible individuals. Herein, we describe three cases of young women
with migraine who reported their headaches could be provoked by chewing
gum sweetened with aspartame. [6-8 mg aspartame per stick chewing gum]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/925
aspartame puts formaldehyde adducts into tissues, Part 1/2
full text, Trocho & Alemany 6.26.98: Murray 12.22.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/926
aspartame puts formaldehyde adducts into tissues, Part 2/2
full text, Trocho & Alemany 6.26.98: Murray 12.22.2 rmforall

http://ww.presidiotex.com/barcelona/index.html
Trocho C, Pardo R, Rafecas I, Virgili J, Remesar X,
Fernandez-Lopez JA, Alemany M ["Trok-ho"]
Formaldehyde derived from dietary aspartame binds to tissue
components in vivo. Life Sci 1998 Jun 26; 63(5): 337-49.
Departament de Bioquimica i Biologia Molecular, Facultat de Biologia,
Universitat de Barcelona, Spain.
http://www.presidiotex.com/barcelona/index.html
Maria Alemany, PhD (male)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/864
Murray: Butchko, Tephly, McMartin: Alemany: aspartame formaldehyde
adducts in rats 9.8.2 rmforall
Prof. Alemany vigorously affirms the validity of the Trocho study
against criticism:
Butchko, HH et al [24 authors], Aspartame: review of safety.
Regul. Toxicol. Pharmacol. 2002 April 1; 35 (2 Pt 2): S1-93, review
available for $35, [an industry paid organ]. Butchko:
"When all the research on aspartame, including evaluations in both the
premarketing and postmarketing periods, is examined as a whole, it is
clear that aspartame is safe, and there are no unresolved questions
regarding its safety under conditions of intended use."
[ They repeatedly pass on the ageless industry deceit that the methanol
in fruits and vegetables is as as biochemically available as that in
aspartame-- see the 1984 rebuttal by Monte, below.
In the same report, Schiffman concludes on page S49, not citing any
research after 1997, "Thus, the weight of the scientific evidence
indicates that aspartame does not cause headache."
Dr. Susan S. Schiffman, Dept. of Psychiatry, Duke University
919-684-3303, 660-5657
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/864
Murray: Butchko, Tephly, McMartin: Alemany: aspartame formaldehyde
adducts in rats 9.8.2 rmforall ]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/911
RTP ties to industry criticized by CSPI: Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1016
President Bush & formaldehyde (aspartame) toxicity: Ramazzini Foundation
carcinogenicity results Dec 2002: Soffritti: Murray 8.3.3 rmforall

p. 88 "The sweetening agent aspartame hydrolyzes in the gastrointestinal
tract to become free methyl alcohol, which is metabolized in the liver
to formaldehyde, formic acid, and CO2. (11)"
Medinsky MA & Dorman DC. 1994; Assessing risks of low-level
methanol exposure. CIIT Act. 14: 1-7.

Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2002 Dec; 982: 87-105.
Results of long-term experimental studies on the carcinogenicity of
formaldehyde and acetaldehyde in rats.
Soffritti M, Belpoggi F, Lambertin L, Lauriola M, Padovani M, Maltoni C.
Cancer Research Center, European Ramazzini Foundation for Oncology and
Environmental Sciences, Bologna, Italy.

Formaldehyde was administered for 104 weeks in drinking water supplied
ad libitum at concentrations of 1500, 1000, 500, 100, 50, 10, or 0 mg/L
to groups of 50 male and 50 female Sprague-Dawley rats beginning at
seven weeks of age.
Control animals (100 males and 100 females) received tap water only.
Acetaldehyde was administered to 50 male and 50 female Sprague-Dawley
rats beginning at six weeks of age at concentrations of 2,500, 1,500,
500, 250, 50, or 0 mg/L.
Animals were kept under observation until spontaneous death.
Formaldehyde and acetaldehyde were found to produce an increase in total
malignant tumors in the treated groups and showed specific carcinogenic
effects on various organs and tissues. PMID: 12562630

Surely the authors deliberately emphasized that aspartame is well-known
to be a source of formaldehyde, which is an extremely potent, cumulative
toxin, with complex, multiple effects on all tissues and organs.

This is even more significant, considering that they have already tested
aspartame, but not yet released the results:

p. 29-32 Table 1: The Ramazzinni Foundation Cancer Program
Project of [200] Long-Term Carcinogenicity Bioassays: Agents Studied

No. No. of Bioassays Species No. Route of Exposure
108. "Coca-Cola" 4 Rat 1,999 Ingestion, Transplantal Route
109. "Pepsi-Cola" 1 Rat 400 Ingestion
110. Sucrose 1 Rat 400 Ingestion
111. Caffeine 1 Rat 800 Ingestion
112. Aspartame 1 Rat 1,800 Ingestion

http://members.nyas.org/events/confe...f_02_0429.html
Soffritti said that Coca-Cola showed no carcinogenicity.

It may be time to disclose these important aspartame results.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/934
24 recent formaldehyde toxicity [Comet assay] reports:
Murray 12.31.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/935
Comet assay finds DNA damage from sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin in
mice: Sasaki YF & Tsuda S Aug 2002: Murray 1.1.3 rmforall
[Also borderline evidence, in this pilot study of 39 food additives,
using test groups of 4 mice, for DNA damage from for stomach, colon,
liver, bladder, and lung 3 hr after oral dose of 2000 mg/kg aspartame--
a very high dose.]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/961
genotoxins, Comet assay in mice: Ace-K, stevia fine; aspartame poor;
sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin bad: Y.F. Sasaki Aug 2002:
Murray 1.27.3 rmforall [A detailed look at the data]

http://www.dorway.com/tldaddic.html 5-page review
Roberts HJ Aspartame (NutraSweet) addiction.
Townsend Letter 2000 Jan;
http://www.sunsentpress.com/
Sunshine Sentinel Press P.O.Box 17799 West Palm Beach, FL 33416
800-814-9800 561-588-7628 561-547-8008 fax

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/669
1038-page medical text "Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic"
published May 30 2001 $ 60.00 postpaid data from 1200 cases
available at http://www.amazon.com
over 600 references from standard medical research
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Rich Murray wrote:
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Diet Soda [aspartame] Dangerous? Shari Lieberman, The O'Reilly Factor
3.19.4: Murray 3.23.4 rmforall

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114880,00.html

Dr. Shari Lieberman
http://www.drshari.net

Diet Soda Dangerous? Monday, March 22, 2004

This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," March 19, 2004 that
has been edited for clarity.

Watch The O'Reilly Factor weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen to
the Radio Factor!

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Back of the Book" Segment tonight, Americans
drink billions of gallons of diet soda a year. It's incredible how much we
consume. And some believe millions of Americans are addicted to the stuff.
They have to have it.

With us now is Dr. Shari Lieberman, a certified nutrition specialist here in
New York City.

All right. So it's -- 10 billion cases of soda sold every year in the USA,
and 30 percent of that, approximately, is diet soda, and I know people who
walk around all day long drinking diet soda. What is that all about?

SHARI LIEBERMAN, PH.D., CERTIFIED NUTRITION SPECIALIST:
It's unbelievable. It is such an addicting substance. You have both the
aspartame, the NutraSweet, combined with the caffeine. You're basically
getting a rush all day. It actually messes with your brain chemicals, Bill.

O'REILLY: Does it really?

LIEBERMAN: It really does. You know, aspartic acid actually makes what we
call excitatory neurotransmitters. Imagine we have a balance of ones that
calm us down and ones that hype us up.

So, if you're drinking something that's going to make the ones that are
excitatory or making us hyper all day long, that's why there are so many
side effects associated with NutraSweet, such as irritability and anxiety.

I mean people are basically getting a rush all day from drinking this.

O'REILLY: OK. So, if you're drinking diet soda all day long or, say, you're
drinking, you know, 48 ounces, 50 ounces a day, which a lot of people do...

LIEBERMAN: They do.

O'REILLY: ... you are basically -- it's an upper.

LIEBERMAN: It's an upper. Exactly. And guess what happens when you run out
of it? It's a crasher...

O'REILLY: Is that right?

LIEBERMAN: ... and then you need an upper.

O'REILLY: You feel bad after it.

Now is this physically addicting, do you believe, or is it psychological?

LIEBERMAN: I believe it's physically addicting. You know, we know that
caffeine is. So you've got a ton of caffeine in the diet sodas. Then you
actually have a substance that's affecting neurotransmitters. So they're
really getting a double whammy, and, of course, we're talking about people
that are drinking it all day long.

O'REILLY: Yes, and they think that, well, I can drink it all day long
because there's no calories in it, I'm not going to get fat. Go ahead.

LIEBERMAN: I have to tell you something about that. If you look at the
research, people that drink diet sodas are oftentimes eating more calories
than people drinking regular sodas.

O'REILLY: But they're eating them.

LIEBERMAN: It actually increases...

O'REILLY: You know, that's -- they're eating.

LIEBERMAN: It seems to increase...

O'REILLY: You can't get fat drinking diet soda.

LIEBERMAN: It's not that you get fat, Bill. I think it's the...

O'REILLY: Bloated.

LIEBERMAN: ... taste of the sweet. It keeps you so addicted. They seem to
eat more carbohydrates throughout the day when they're drinking diet soda.
Go figure.

O'REILLY: What other physical things -- if you're consuming a lot of diet
soda, what happens to your body?

LIEBERMAN: Well, you also can get a certain amount of methanol, which is the
more toxic alcohol. That's a byproduct of NutraSweet and aspartame, if
you're drinking a lot of it, and that's a wood alcohol that's actually
rather toxic and can cause some problems as well. So you have a substance
that, when you're taking in really large amounts, is going to affect your
chemistry, your brain chemistry, your...

O'REILLY: Your body chemistry and...

LIEBERMAN: Exactly. Your body chemistry.

O'REILLY: OK. Now there are no warnings on any of the soda labels, and
nobody says any of this. But, you know, I -- and I wanted to do the story
because, anecdotally, I've seen people, you know, in the office here and all
of that, drink diet soda after diet soda after diet soda.

LIEBERMAN: Well, who did my makeup today actually said to me she's drinking
a ton of diet soda and is suffering from migraines. There are reports of
migraines and fibromyalgia and certain illnesses disappearing when people go
off diet sodas. So, I mean, there is a relationship between taking in a lot
of this stuff -- we're not talking about the occasional user.

O'REILLY: No.

LIEBERMAN: But if -- you know, once again, you've got these excited neurons
in your head, and it is related to migraines and fibromyalgia and a number
of other illnesses that have been shown to go away.

O'REILLY: Right. And it doesn't do any -- your teeth any good either?

LIEBERMAN: It really -- it doesn't protect your teeth like Xylitol and some
of the other sweeteners.

O'REILLY: All right, Doctor. I knew drinking 50 ounces of that stuff wasn't
good.

LIEBERMAN: You were right, Bill.

O'REILLY: You know, one Dr. Pepper once in a while, fine, but, you know,
leave the six-pack home.

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1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505 USA 505-986-9103

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1059
foxnews.com, The O'Reilly Factor, Shari Lieberman, diet soft drinks
(aspartame), Friday March 19 2004: Mike: Martini: Murray 3.21.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1063
positive response to Lieberman on The O'Reilly Factor:
Lieberman: Murray 3.22.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/927
Donald Rumsfeld, 1977 head of Searle Corp., got aspartame FDA approval:
Turner: Murray 12.23.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1039
three-page review: aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity:
Murray 11.22.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1026
brief aspartame review: formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 9.11.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/989 On 4.10.2003
the European Union Parliament voted 440 to 20 to approve sucralose,
limit cyclamates & reevaluate aspartame & stevia: Murray 4.12.3 rmforall

http://google.com gives 221,000 websites for "aspartame" , with the top
9 of 10 listings being anti-aspartame, while
http://groups.google.com finds on 700 MB of posts from 20 years of
Usenet groups, 83,800 posts, the top 10 being anti-aspartame.

http://news.google.com 28 recent aspartame items from 4500 sources.
http://www.AllTheWeb.com gives 291,700, the top 7 of 10 being
leading and very well informed volunteer anti-aspartame sites.
http://teoma.com/index.asp gives 85,700 websites, top 8 of 10 anti.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed lists 751 aspartame items.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1025
aspartame & formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 9.9.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages
for 1064 posts in a public searchable archive 120 members

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/messages 774 with 16,660 posts

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1047
Avoiding Hangover Hell 12.31.3 Mark Sherman, AP writer: Robert Swift, MD:
[formaldehyde from methanol in aspartame]: Murray 1.16.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1048
hangovers from formaldehyde from methanol (aspartame?):
Schwarcz: Linsley: Murray 1.18.4

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1052
DMDC: Dimethyl dicarbonate 200mg/L in drinks adds methanol 98 mg/L
( becomes formaldehyde in body ): EU Scientific Committee on Foods 7.12.1:
Murray 1.22.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1024
aspartame review: methanol, formaldehyde, formic acid toxicity:
Murray 9.5.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/910
formaldehyde & formic acid from methanol in aspartame:
Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall

It is certain that high levels of aspartame use, above 2 liters daily
for months and years, must lead to chronic formaldehyde-formic acid
toxicity, since 11% of aspartame (1,120 mg in 2L diet soda, 5.6 12-oz
cans) is 123 mg methanol (wood alcohol), immediately released into the
body after drinking (unlike the large levels of methanol locked up in
molecules inside many fruits), then quickly transformed into
formaldehyde, which in turn becomes formic acid, both of which in
time are partially eliminated as carbon dioxide and water.

However, about 30% of the methanol remains in the body as cumulative
durable toxic metabolites of formaldehyde and formic acid-- 37 mg daily,
a gram every month. [Metabolism of aspartame in monkeys.
Oppermann JA, Muldoon E, Ranney RE.
J. Nutrition 1973 Oct; 103(10): 1454-1459.]
If 10% of the methanol is retained as formaldehyde, that would give 12
mg daily formaldehyde accumulation, about 60 times more than the 0.2 mg
from 10% retention of the 2 mg EPA daily limit for formaldehyde in water.

Bear in mind that the EPA limit for formaldehyde in drinking water is
1 ppm, or 2 mg daily for a typical daily consumption of 2 L of water.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/835
RTM: ATSDR: EPA limit 1 ppm formaldehyde in drinking water July 1999
5.30.2 rmforall

This long-term low-level chronic toxic exposure leads to typical
patterns of increasingly severe complex symptoms, starting with
headache, fatigue, joint pain, irritability, memory loss, and
leading to vision and eye problems, and even seizures. In many cases
there is addiction. Probably there are immune system disorders, with a
hypersensitivity to these toxins and other chemicals.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/782
RTM: Smith, Terpening, Schmidt, Gums:
full text: aspartame, MSG, fibromyalgia 1.17.2 rmforall
Jerry D Smith, Chris M Terpening, Siegfried OF Schmidt, and John G Gums
Relief of Fibromyalgia Symptoms Following
Discontinuation of Dietary Excitotoxins.
The Annals of Pharmacotherapy 2001; 35(6): 702-706.
Malcolm Randall Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Gainesville, FL, USA.
BACKGROUND: Fibromyalgia is a common rheumatologic disorder that is
often difficult to treat effectively.
CASE SUMMARY: Four patients diagnosed with fibromyalgia syndrome
for two to 17 years are described.
All had undergone multiple treatment
modalities with limited success. All had complete, or nearly complete,
resolution of their symptoms within months after eliminating monosodium
glutamate (MSG) or MSG plus aspartame from their diet.
All patients were women with multiple comorbidities
prior to elimination of MSG.
All have had recurrence of symptoms whenever MSG is ingested.

Siegfried O. Schmidt, MD Asst. Clinical Prof.
Community Health and Family Medicine, U. Florida, Gainesville, FL
Shands Hospital West Oak Clinic Gainesville, FL 32608-3629
352-376-5071

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/846
RTM: aspartame in Merck Maxalt-MLT worsens migraine,
AstraZeneca Zomig, Eli Lilly Zyprexa,
J&J Merck Pepcid AC (Famotidine 10mg) Chewable Tab,
Pfizer Cool Mint Listerine Pocketpaks 7.16.2 rmforall
Migraine MLT-Down: an unusual presentation of migraine
in patients with aspartame-triggered headaches.
Newman LC, Lipton RB Headache 2001 Oct; 41(9): 899-901.
[Merck 10-mg Maxalt-MLT, for migraine, has 3.75 mg aspartame,
while 12 oz diet soda has 200 mg.]
Headache Institute, St. Lukes-Roosevelt Hospital Center, New York, NY
Department of Neurology
Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY
Innovative Medical Research


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/855
RTM: Blumenthall & Vance:
aspartame chewing gum headaches Nov 1997 7.28.2 rmforall
Harvey J. Blumenthal, MD, Dwight A Vance, RPh
Chewing Gum Headaches.
Headache 1997 Nov-Dec; 37(10): 665-6.
Department of Neurology, University of Oklahoma College of Medicine,
Tulsa, USA.
Aspartame, a popular dietetic sweetener, may provoke headache in some
susceptible individuals. Herein, we describe three cases of young women
with migraine who reported their headaches could be provoked by chewing
gum sweetened with aspartame. [6-8 mg aspartame per stick chewing gum]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/925
aspartame puts formaldehyde adducts into tissues, Part 1/2
full text, Trocho & Alemany 6.26.98: Murray 12.22.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/926
aspartame puts formaldehyde adducts into tissues, Part 2/2
full text, Trocho & Alemany 6.26.98: Murray 12.22.2 rmforall

http://ww.presidiotex.com/barcelona/index.html
Trocho C, Pardo R, Rafecas I, Virgili J, Remesar X,
Fernandez-Lopez JA, Alemany M ["Trok-ho"]
Formaldehyde derived from dietary aspartame binds to tissue
components in vivo. Life Sci 1998 Jun 26; 63(5): 337-49.
Departament de Bioquimica i Biologia Molecular, Facultat de Biologia,
Universitat de Barcelona, Spain.
http://www.presidiotex.com/barcelona/index.html
Maria Alemany, PhD (male)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/864
Murray: Butchko, Tephly, McMartin: Alemany: aspartame formaldehyde
adducts in rats 9.8.2 rmforall
Prof. Alemany vigorously affirms the validity of the Trocho study
against criticism:
Butchko, HH et al [24 authors], Aspartame: review of safety.
Regul. Toxicol. Pharmacol. 2002 April 1; 35 (2 Pt 2): S1-93, review
available for $35, [an industry paid organ]. Butchko:
"When all the research on aspartame, including evaluations in both the
premarketing and postmarketing periods, is examined as a whole, it is
clear that aspartame is safe, and there are no unresolved questions
regarding its safety under conditions of intended use."
[ They repeatedly pass on the ageless industry deceit that the methanol
in fruits and vegetables is as as biochemically available as that in
aspartame-- see the 1984 rebuttal by Monte, below.
In the same report, Schiffman concludes on page S49, not citing any
research after 1997, "Thus, the weight of the scientific evidence
indicates that aspartame does not cause headache."
Dr. Susan S. Schiffman, Dept. of Psychiatry, Duke University
919-684-3303, 660-5657
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/864
Murray: Butchko, Tephly, McMartin: Alemany: aspartame formaldehyde
adducts in rats 9.8.2 rmforall ]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/911
RTP ties to industry criticized by CSPI: Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1016
President Bush & formaldehyde (aspartame) toxicity: Ramazzini Foundation
carcinogenicity results Dec 2002: Soffritti: Murray 8.3.3 rmforall

p. 88 "The sweetening agent aspartame hydrolyzes in the gastrointestinal
tract to become free methyl alcohol, which is metabolized in the liver
to formaldehyde, formic acid, and CO2. (11)"
Medinsky MA & Dorman DC. 1994; Assessing risks of low-level
methanol exposure. CIIT Act. 14: 1-7.

Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2002 Dec; 982: 87-105.
Results of long-term experimental studies on the carcinogenicity of
formaldehyde and acetaldehyde in rats.
Soffritti M, Belpoggi F, Lambertin L, Lauriola M, Padovani M, Maltoni C.
Cancer Research Center, European Ramazzini Foundation for Oncology and
Environmental Sciences, Bologna, Italy.

Formaldehyde was administered for 104 weeks in drinking water supplied
ad libitum at concentrations of 1500, 1000, 500, 100, 50, 10, or 0 mg/L
to groups of 50 male and 50 female Sprague-Dawley rats beginning at
seven weeks of age.
Control animals (100 males and 100 females) received tap water only.
Acetaldehyde was administered to 50 male and 50 female Sprague-Dawley
rats beginning at six weeks of age at concentrations of 2,500, 1,500,
500, 250, 50, or 0 mg/L.
Animals were kept under observation until spontaneous death.
Formaldehyde and acetaldehyde were found to produce an increase in total
malignant tumors in the treated groups and showed specific carcinogenic
effects on various organs and tissues. PMID: 12562630

Surely the authors deliberately emphasized that aspartame is well-known
to be a source of formaldehyde, which is an extremely potent, cumulative
toxin, with complex, multiple effects on all tissues and organs.

This is even more significant, considering that they have already tested
aspartame, but not yet released the results:

p. 29-32 Table 1: The Ramazzinni Foundation Cancer Program
Project of [200] Long-Term Carcinogenicity Bioassays: Agents Studied

No. No. of Bioassays Species No. Route of Exposure
108. "Coca-Cola" 4 Rat 1,999 Ingestion, Transplantal Route
109. "Pepsi-Cola" 1 Rat 400 Ingestion
110. Sucrose 1 Rat 400 Ingestion
111. Caffeine 1 Rat 800 Ingestion
112. Aspartame 1 Rat 1,800 Ingestion

http://members.nyas.org/events/confe...f_02_0429.html
Soffritti said that Coca-Cola showed no carcinogenicity.

It may be time to disclose these important aspartame results.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/934
24 recent formaldehyde toxicity [Comet assay] reports:
Murray 12.31.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/935
Comet assay finds DNA damage from sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin in
mice: Sasaki YF & Tsuda S Aug 2002: Murray 1.1.3 rmforall
[Also borderline evidence, in this pilot study of 39 food additives,
using test groups of 4 mice, for DNA damage from for stomach, colon,
liver, bladder, and lung 3 hr after oral dose of 2000 mg/kg aspartame--
a very high dose.]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/961
genotoxins, Comet assay in mice: Ace-K, stevia fine; aspartame poor;
sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin bad: Y.F. Sasaki Aug 2002:
Murray 1.27.3 rmforall [A detailed look at the data]

http://www.dorway.com/tldaddic.html 5-page review
Roberts HJ Aspartame (NutraSweet) addiction.
Townsend Letter 2000 Jan;
http://www.sunsentpress.com/
Sunshine Sentinel Press P.O.Box 17799 West Palm Beach, FL 33416
800-814-9800 561-588-7628 561-547-8008 fax

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/669
1038-page medical text "Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic"
published May 30 2001 $ 60.00 postpaid data from 1200 cases
available at http://www.amazon.com
over 600 references from standard medical research
************************************************** ***************


Recent Statements Debunking Health/Internet Rumors

“Don’t believe the rumors – widely spread on the Internet – that
aspartame … causes not only multiple sclerosis, but also lupus,
Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease, diabetes, Gulf War syndrome, and
brain tumors. ”

-University of California, Berkeley Wellness Letter, April 1999

“I have no problem with information dissemination, even when it is
wrong. But [this] has crossed the line. There is no evidence that
aspartame in any way causes, provokes, mimics or worsens MS. This series
of allegations are almost totally without foundation. They are rabidly
inaccurate and scandalously misinformative.”

-David Squillacote, MD, Senior Medical Advisor for the Multiple
Sclerosis
Foundation

“There continues to be unsubstantiated claims that the nonnutritive
sweetener aspartame (brand name NutraSweet) poses health risks to people
with diabetes. Aspartame has been approved by the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA), a governmental agency that conducts thorough
scientific reviews to determine foods are safe for public consumption.
The American Diabetes Association follows FDA recommendations and
recognizes that there is no credible scientific evidence linking
aspartame to any health-related problems for people with diabetes.”

-American Diabetes Association Statement, February 9, 1999

“MS and lupus have been around a lot longer than aspartame has, and
repeated scientific studies have found no connection between the
sweetener and such symptoms.”

-Associated Press, January 29, 1999

“This specimen of email scarelore, in wide circulation since
mid-December 1998, warns that the artificial sweetener aspartame (a.k.a.
"NutraSweet" and "Equal") is toxic to humans in a hundred different
ways. It even coins a new medical term for these effects: ‘aspartame
disease.’ Most of the allegations contradict the bulk of medical … but I
would point out that the agency [FDA] has common sense and years of
accumulated research on its side when it maintains that the sweetener is
safe for most people. As to aspartame's critics, it doesn't help their
cause that the information presented in the email is disorganized,
hysterical and poorly substantiated.”

-About.com

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Hey, Rich, I have been looking all over the internet to find out where Betty
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Rich Murray wrote:
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Diet Soda [aspartame] Dangerous? Shari Lieberman, The O'Reilly Factor
3.19.4: Murray 3.23.4 rmforall

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114880,00.html



Dr. Shari Lieberman
http://www.drshari.net

Diet Soda Dangerous? Monday, March 22, 2004

This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," March 19, 2004

that
has been edited for clarity.

Watch The O'Reilly Factor weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen

to
the Radio Factor!

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Back of the Book" Segment tonight,

Americans
drink billions of gallons of diet soda a year. It's incredible how much

we
consume. And some believe millions of Americans are addicted to the

stuff.
They have to have it.

With us now is Dr. Shari Lieberman, a certified nutrition specialist

here in
New York City.

All right. So it's -- 10 billion cases of soda sold every year in the

USA,
and 30 percent of that, approximately, is diet soda, and I know people

who
walk around all day long drinking diet soda. What is that all about?

SHARI LIEBERMAN, PH.D., CERTIFIED NUTRITION SPECIALIST:
It's unbelievable. It is such an addicting substance. You have both the
aspartame, the NutraSweet, combined with the caffeine. You're basically
getting a rush all day. It actually messes with your brain chemicals,

Bill.

O'REILLY: Does it really?

LIEBERMAN: It really does. You know, aspartic acid actually makes what

we
call excitatory neurotransmitters. Imagine we have a balance of ones

that
calm us down and ones that hype us up.

So, if you're drinking something that's going to make the ones that are
excitatory or making us hyper all day long, that's why there are so many
side effects associated with NutraSweet, such as irritability and

anxiety.

I mean people are basically getting a rush all day from drinking this.

O'REILLY: OK. So, if you're drinking diet soda all day long or, say,

you're
drinking, you know, 48 ounces, 50 ounces a day, which a lot of people

do...

LIEBERMAN: They do.

O'REILLY: ... you are basically -- it's an upper.

LIEBERMAN: It's an upper. Exactly. And guess what happens when you run

out
of it? It's a crasher...

O'REILLY: Is that right?

LIEBERMAN: ... and then you need an upper.

O'REILLY: You feel bad after it.

Now is this physically addicting, do you believe, or is it

psychological?

LIEBERMAN: I believe it's physically addicting. You know, we know that
caffeine is. So you've got a ton of caffeine in the diet sodas. Then you
actually have a substance that's affecting neurotransmitters. So they're
really getting a double whammy, and, of course, we're talking about

people
that are drinking it all day long.

O'REILLY: Yes, and they think that, well, I can drink it all day long
because there's no calories in it, I'm not going to get fat. Go ahead.

LIEBERMAN: I have to tell you something about that. If you look at the
research, people that drink diet sodas are oftentimes eating more

calories
than people drinking regular sodas.

O'REILLY: But they're eating them.

LIEBERMAN: It actually increases...

O'REILLY: You know, that's -- they're eating.

LIEBERMAN: It seems to increase...

O'REILLY: You can't get fat drinking diet soda.

LIEBERMAN: It's not that you get fat, Bill. I think it's the...

O'REILLY: Bloated.

LIEBERMAN: ... taste of the sweet. It keeps you so addicted. They seem

to
eat more carbohydrates throughout the day when they're drinking diet

soda.
Go figure.

O'REILLY: What other physical things -- if you're consuming a lot of

diet
soda, what happens to your body?

LIEBERMAN: Well, you also can get a certain amount of methanol, which is

the
more toxic alcohol. That's a byproduct of NutraSweet and aspartame, if
you're drinking a lot of it, and that's a wood alcohol that's actually
rather toxic and can cause some problems as well. So you have a

substance
that, when you're taking in really large amounts, is going to affect

your
chemistry, your brain chemistry, your...

O'REILLY: Your body chemistry and...

LIEBERMAN: Exactly. Your body chemistry.

O'REILLY: OK. Now there are no warnings on any of the soda labels, and
nobody says any of this. But, you know, I -- and I wanted to do the

story
because, anecdotally, I've seen people, you know, in the office here and

all
of that, drink diet soda after diet soda after diet soda.

LIEBERMAN: Well, who did my makeup today actually said to me she's

drinking
a ton of diet soda and is suffering from migraines. There are reports of
migraines and fibromyalgia and certain illnesses disappearing when

people go
off diet sodas. So, I mean, there is a relationship between taking in a

lot
of this stuff -- we're not talking about the occasional user.

O'REILLY: No.

LIEBERMAN: But if -- you know, once again, you've got these excited

neurons
in your head, and it is related to migraines and fibromyalgia and a

number
of other illnesses that have been shown to go away.

O'REILLY: Right. And it doesn't do any -- your teeth any good either?

LIEBERMAN: It really -- it doesn't protect your teeth like Xylitol and

some
of the other sweeteners.

O'REILLY: All right, Doctor. I knew drinking 50 ounces of that stuff

wasn't
good.

LIEBERMAN: You were right, Bill.

O'REILLY: You know, one Dr. Pepper once in a while, fine, but, you know,
leave the six-pack home.

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1059
foxnews.com, The O'Reilly Factor, Shari Lieberman, diet soft drinks
(aspartame), Friday March 19 2004: Mike: Martini: Murray 3.21.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1063
positive response to Lieberman on The O'Reilly Factor:
Lieberman: Murray 3.22.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/927
Donald Rumsfeld, 1977 head of Searle Corp., got aspartame FDA approval:
Turner: Murray 12.23.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1039
three-page review: aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity:
Murray 11.22.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1026
brief aspartame review: formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 9.11.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/989 On 4.10.2003
the European Union Parliament voted 440 to 20 to approve sucralose,
limit cyclamates & reevaluate aspartame & stevia: Murray 4.12.3 rmforall

http://google.com gives 221,000 websites for "aspartame" , with the top
9 of 10 listings being anti-aspartame, while
http://groups.google.com finds on 700 MB of posts from 20 years of
Usenet groups, 83,800 posts, the top 10 being anti-aspartame.

http://news.google.com 28 recent aspartame items from 4500 sources.
http://www.AllTheWeb.com gives 291,700, the top 7 of 10 being
leading and very well informed volunteer anti-aspartame sites.
http://teoma.com/index.asp gives 85,700 websites, top 8 of 10 anti.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed lists 751 aspartame items.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1025
aspartame & formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 9.9.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages
for 1064 posts in a public searchable archive 120 members

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/messages 774 with 16,660 posts

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1047
Avoiding Hangover Hell 12.31.3 Mark Sherman, AP writer: Robert Swift,

MD:
[formaldehyde from methanol in aspartame]: Murray 1.16.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1048
hangovers from formaldehyde from methanol (aspartame?):
Schwarcz: Linsley: Murray 1.18.4

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1052
DMDC: Dimethyl dicarbonate 200mg/L in drinks adds methanol 98 mg/L
( becomes formaldehyde in body ): EU Scientific Committee on Foods

7.12.1:
Murray 1.22.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1024
aspartame review: methanol, formaldehyde, formic acid toxicity:
Murray 9.5.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/910
formaldehyde & formic acid from methanol in aspartame:
Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall

It is certain that high levels of aspartame use, above 2 liters daily
for months and years, must lead to chronic formaldehyde-formic acid
toxicity, since 11% of aspartame (1,120 mg in 2L diet soda, 5.6 12-oz
cans) is 123 mg methanol (wood alcohol), immediately released into the
body after drinking (unlike the large levels of methanol locked up in
molecules inside many fruits), then quickly transformed into
formaldehyde, which in turn becomes formic acid, both of which in
time are partially eliminated as carbon dioxide and water.

However, about 30% of the methanol remains in the body as cumulative
durable toxic metabolites of formaldehyde and formic acid-- 37 mg daily,
a gram every month. [Metabolism of aspartame in monkeys.
Oppermann JA, Muldoon E, Ranney RE.
J. Nutrition 1973 Oct; 103(10): 1454-1459.]
If 10% of the methanol is retained as formaldehyde, that would give 12
mg daily formaldehyde accumulation, about 60 times more than the 0.2 mg
from 10% retention of the 2 mg EPA daily limit for formaldehyde in

water.

Bear in mind that the EPA limit for formaldehyde in drinking water is
1 ppm, or 2 mg daily for a typical daily consumption of 2 L of water.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/835
RTM: ATSDR: EPA limit 1 ppm formaldehyde in drinking water July 1999
5.30.2 rmforall

This long-term low-level chronic toxic exposure leads to typical
patterns of increasingly severe complex symptoms, starting with
headache, fatigue, joint pain, irritability, memory loss, and
leading to vision and eye problems, and even seizures. In many cases
there is addiction. Probably there are immune system disorders, with a
hypersensitivity to these toxins and other chemicals.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/782
RTM: Smith, Terpening, Schmidt, Gums:
full text: aspartame, MSG, fibromyalgia 1.17.2 rmforall
Jerry D Smith, Chris M Terpening, Siegfried OF Schmidt, and John G Gums
Relief of Fibromyalgia Symptoms Following
Discontinuation of Dietary Excitotoxins.
The Annals of Pharmacotherapy 2001; 35(6): 702-706.
Malcolm Randall Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Gainesville, FL, USA.
BACKGROUND: Fibromyalgia is a common rheumatologic disorder that is
often difficult to treat effectively.
CASE SUMMARY: Four patients diagnosed with fibromyalgia syndrome
for two to 17 years are described.
All had undergone multiple treatment
modalities with limited success. All had complete, or nearly complete,
resolution of their symptoms within months after eliminating monosodium
glutamate (MSG) or MSG plus aspartame from their diet.
All patients were women with multiple comorbidities
prior to elimination of MSG.
All have had recurrence of symptoms whenever MSG is ingested.

Siegfried O. Schmidt, MD Asst. Clinical Prof.
Community Health and Family Medicine, U. Florida, Gainesville, FL
Shands Hospital West Oak Clinic Gainesville, FL 32608-3629
352-376-5071

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/846
RTM: aspartame in Merck Maxalt-MLT worsens migraine,
AstraZeneca Zomig, Eli Lilly Zyprexa,
J&J Merck Pepcid AC (Famotidine 10mg) Chewable Tab,
Pfizer Cool Mint Listerine Pocketpaks 7.16.2 rmforall
Migraine MLT-Down: an unusual presentation of migraine
in patients with aspartame-triggered headaches.
Newman LC, Lipton RB Headache 2001 Oct; 41(9): 899-901.
[Merck 10-mg Maxalt-MLT, for migraine, has 3.75 mg aspartame,
while 12 oz diet soda has 200 mg.]
Headache Institute, St. Lukes-Roosevelt Hospital Center, New York, NY
Department of Neurology
Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY
Innovative Medical Research


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/855
RTM: Blumenthall & Vance:
aspartame chewing gum headaches Nov 1997 7.28.2 rmforall
Harvey J. Blumenthal, MD, Dwight A Vance, RPh
Chewing Gum Headaches.
Headache 1997 Nov-Dec; 37(10): 665-6.
Department of Neurology, University of Oklahoma College of Medicine,
Tulsa, USA.
Aspartame, a popular dietetic sweetener, may provoke headache in some
susceptible individuals. Herein, we describe three cases of young women
with migraine who reported their headaches could be provoked by chewing
gum sweetened with aspartame. [6-8 mg aspartame per stick chewing gum]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/925
aspartame puts formaldehyde adducts into tissues, Part 1/2
full text, Trocho & Alemany 6.26.98: Murray 12.22.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/926
aspartame puts formaldehyde adducts into tissues, Part 2/2
full text, Trocho & Alemany 6.26.98: Murray 12.22.2 rmforall

http://ww.presidiotex.com/barcelona/index.html
Trocho C, Pardo R, Rafecas I, Virgili J, Remesar X,
Fernandez-Lopez JA, Alemany M ["Trok-ho"]
Formaldehyde derived from dietary aspartame binds to tissue
components in vivo. Life Sci 1998 Jun 26; 63(5): 337-49.
Departament de Bioquimica i Biologia Molecular, Facultat de Biologia,
Universitat de Barcelona, Spain.
http://www.presidiotex.com/barcelona/index.html
Maria Alemany, PhD (male)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/864
Murray: Butchko, Tephly, McMartin: Alemany: aspartame formaldehyde
adducts in rats 9.8.2 rmforall
Prof. Alemany vigorously affirms the validity of the Trocho study
against criticism:
Butchko, HH et al [24 authors], Aspartame: review of safety.
Regul. Toxicol. Pharmacol. 2002 April 1; 35 (2 Pt 2): S1-93, review
available for $35, [an industry paid organ]. Butchko:
"When all the research on aspartame, including evaluations in both the
premarketing and postmarketing periods, is examined as a whole, it is
clear that aspartame is safe, and there are no unresolved questions
regarding its safety under conditions of intended use."
[ They repeatedly pass on the ageless industry deceit that the methanol
in fruits and vegetables is as as biochemically available as that in
aspartame-- see the 1984 rebuttal by Monte, below.
In the same report, Schiffman concludes on page S49, not citing any
research after 1997, "Thus, the weight of the scientific evidence
indicates that aspartame does not cause headache."
Dr. Susan S. Schiffman, Dept. of Psychiatry, Duke University
919-684-3303, 660-5657
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/864
Murray: Butchko, Tephly, McMartin: Alemany: aspartame formaldehyde
adducts in rats 9.8.2 rmforall ]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/911
RTP ties to industry criticized by CSPI: Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1016
President Bush & formaldehyde (aspartame) toxicity: Ramazzini Foundation
carcinogenicity results Dec 2002: Soffritti: Murray 8.3.3 rmforall

p. 88 "The sweetening agent aspartame hydrolyzes in the gastrointestinal
tract to become free methyl alcohol, which is metabolized in the liver
to formaldehyde, formic acid, and CO2. (11)"
Medinsky MA & Dorman DC. 1994; Assessing risks of low-level
methanol exposure. CIIT Act. 14: 1-7.

Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2002 Dec; 982: 87-105.
Results of long-term experimental studies on the carcinogenicity of
formaldehyde and acetaldehyde in rats.
Soffritti M, Belpoggi F, Lambertin L, Lauriola M, Padovani M, Maltoni C.
Cancer Research Center, European Ramazzini Foundation for Oncology and
Environmental Sciences, Bologna, Italy.

Formaldehyde was administered for 104 weeks in drinking water supplied
ad libitum at concentrations of 1500, 1000, 500, 100, 50, 10, or 0 mg/L
to groups of 50 male and 50 female Sprague-Dawley rats beginning at
seven weeks of age.
Control animals (100 males and 100 females) received tap water only.
Acetaldehyde was administered to 50 male and 50 female Sprague-Dawley
rats beginning at six weeks of age at concentrations of 2,500, 1,500,
500, 250, 50, or 0 mg/L.
Animals were kept under observation until spontaneous death.
Formaldehyde and acetaldehyde were found to produce an increase in total
malignant tumors in the treated groups and showed specific carcinogenic
effects on various organs and tissues. PMID: 12562630

Surely the authors deliberately emphasized that aspartame is well-known
to be a source of formaldehyde, which is an extremely potent, cumulative
toxin, with complex, multiple effects on all tissues and organs.

This is even more significant, considering that they have already tested
aspartame, but not yet released the results:

p. 29-32 Table 1: The Ramazzinni Foundation Cancer Program
Project of [200] Long-Term Carcinogenicity Bioassays: Agents Studied

No. No. of Bioassays Species No. Route of Exposure
108. "Coca-Cola" 4 Rat 1,999 Ingestion, Transplantal

Route
109. "Pepsi-Cola" 1 Rat 400 Ingestion
110. Sucrose 1 Rat 400 Ingestion
111. Caffeine 1 Rat 800 Ingestion
112. Aspartame 1 Rat 1,800 Ingestion

http://members.nyas.org/events/confe...f_02_0429.html
Soffritti said that Coca-Cola showed no carcinogenicity.

It may be time to disclose these important aspartame results.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/934
24 recent formaldehyde toxicity [Comet assay] reports:
Murray 12.31.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/935
Comet assay finds DNA damage from sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin in
mice: Sasaki YF & Tsuda S Aug 2002: Murray 1.1.3 rmforall
[Also borderline evidence, in this pilot study of 39 food additives,
using test groups of 4 mice, for DNA damage from for stomach, colon,
liver, bladder, and lung 3 hr after oral dose of 2000 mg/kg aspartame--
a very high dose.]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/961
genotoxins, Comet assay in mice: Ace-K, stevia fine; aspartame poor;
sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin bad: Y.F. Sasaki Aug 2002:
Murray 1.27.3 rmforall [A detailed look at the data]

http://www.dorway.com/tldaddic.html 5-page review
Roberts HJ Aspartame (NutraSweet) addiction.
Townsend Letter 2000 Jan;
http://www.sunsentpress.com/
Sunshine Sentinel Press P.O.Box 17799 West Palm Beach, FL 33416
800-814-9800 561-588-7628 561-547-8008 fax

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/669
1038-page medical text "Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic"
published May 30 2001 $ 60.00 postpaid data from 1200 cases
available at http://www.amazon.com
over 600 references from standard medical research
************************************************** ***************


Recent Statements Debunking Health/Internet Rumors

“Don’t believe the rumors – widely spread on the Internet – that
aspartame … causes not only multiple sclerosis, but also lupus,
Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease, diabetes, Gulf War syndrome, and
brain tumors. ”

-University of California, Berkeley Wellness Letter, April 1999

“I have no problem with information dissemination, even when it is
wrong. But [this] has crossed the line. There is no evidence that
aspartame in any way causes, provokes, mimics or worsens MS. This series
of allegations are almost totally without foundation. They are rabidly
inaccurate and scandalously misinformative.”

-David Squillacote, MD, Senior Medical Advisor for the Multiple
Sclerosis
Foundation

“There continues to be unsubstantiated claims that the nonnutritive
sweetener aspartame (brand name NutraSweet) poses health risks to people
with diabetes. Aspartame has been approved by the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA), a governmental agency that conducts thorough
scientific reviews to determine foods are safe for public consumption.
The American Diabetes Association follows FDA recommendations and
recognizes that there is no credible scientific evidence linking
aspartame to any health-related problems for people with diabetes.”

-American Diabetes Association Statement, February 9, 1999

“MS and lupus have been around a lot longer than aspartame has, and
repeated scientific studies have found no connection between the
sweetener and such symptoms.”

-Associated Press, January 29, 1999

“This specimen of email scarelore, in wide circulation since
mid-December 1998, warns that the artificial sweetener aspartame (a.k.a.
"NutraSweet" and "Equal") is toxic to humans in a hundred different
ways. It even coins a new medical term for these effects: ‘aspartame
disease.’ Most of the allegations contradict the bulk of medical … but I
would point out that the agency [FDA] has common sense and years of
accumulated research on its side when it maintains that the sweetener is
safe for most people. As to aspartame's critics, it doesn't help their
cause that the information presented in the email is disorganized,
hysterical and poorly substantiated.”


One of the funny things about the anti-aspartamistas is that they have never
really been able to explain why aspartame is so evil if its metabolites are
also found in numerous other food products and those foods arfe not evil
like aspartame.



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Rich Murray wrote:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1064
Diet Soda [aspartame] Dangerous? Shari Lieberman, The O'Reilly Factor
3.19.4: Murray 3.23.4 rmforall

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114880,00.html



Dr. Shari Lieberman
http://www.drshari.net

Diet Soda Dangerous? Monday, March 22, 2004

This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," March 19, 2004

that
has been edited for clarity.

Watch The O'Reilly Factor weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen

to
the Radio Factor!

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Back of the Book" Segment tonight,

Americans
drink billions of gallons of diet soda a year. It's incredible how much

we
consume. And some believe millions of Americans are addicted to the

stuff.
They have to have it.

With us now is Dr. Shari Lieberman, a certified nutrition specialist

here in
New York City.

All right. So it's -- 10 billion cases of soda sold every year in the

USA,
and 30 percent of that, approximately, is diet soda, and I know people

who
walk around all day long drinking diet soda. What is that all about?

SHARI LIEBERMAN, PH.D., CERTIFIED NUTRITION SPECIALIST:
It's unbelievable. It is such an addicting substance. You have both the
aspartame, the NutraSweet, combined with the caffeine. You're basically
getting a rush all day. It actually messes with your brain chemicals,

Bill.

O'REILLY: Does it really?

LIEBERMAN: It really does. You know, aspartic acid actually makes what

we
call excitatory neurotransmitters. Imagine we have a balance of ones

that
calm us down and ones that hype us up.

So, if you're drinking something that's going to make the ones that are
excitatory or making us hyper all day long, that's why there are so many
side effects associated with NutraSweet, such as irritability and

anxiety.

I mean people are basically getting a rush all day from drinking this.

O'REILLY: OK. So, if you're drinking diet soda all day long or, say,

you're
drinking, you know, 48 ounces, 50 ounces a day, which a lot of people

do...

LIEBERMAN: They do.

O'REILLY: ... you are basically -- it's an upper.

LIEBERMAN: It's an upper. Exactly. And guess what happens when you run

out
of it? It's a crasher...

O'REILLY: Is that right?

LIEBERMAN: ... and then you need an upper.

O'REILLY: You feel bad after it.

Now is this physically addicting, do you believe, or is it

psychological?

LIEBERMAN: I believe it's physically addicting. You know, we know that
caffeine is. So you've got a ton of caffeine in the diet sodas. Then you
actually have a substance that's affecting neurotransmitters. So they're
really getting a double whammy, and, of course, we're talking about

people
that are drinking it all day long.

O'REILLY: Yes, and they think that, well, I can drink it all day long
because there's no calories in it, I'm not going to get fat. Go ahead.

LIEBERMAN: I have to tell you something about that. If you look at the
research, people that drink diet sodas are oftentimes eating more

calories
than people drinking regular sodas.

O'REILLY: But they're eating them.

LIEBERMAN: It actually increases...

O'REILLY: You know, that's -- they're eating.

LIEBERMAN: It seems to increase...

O'REILLY: You can't get fat drinking diet soda.

LIEBERMAN: It's not that you get fat, Bill. I think it's the...

O'REILLY: Bloated.

LIEBERMAN: ... taste of the sweet. It keeps you so addicted. They seem

to
eat more carbohydrates throughout the day when they're drinking diet

soda.
Go figure.

O'REILLY: What other physical things -- if you're consuming a lot of

diet
soda, what happens to your body?

LIEBERMAN: Well, you also can get a certain amount of methanol, which is

the
more toxic alcohol. That's a byproduct of NutraSweet and aspartame, if
you're drinking a lot of it, and that's a wood alcohol that's actually
rather toxic and can cause some problems as well. So you have a

substance
that, when you're taking in really large amounts, is going to affect

your
chemistry, your brain chemistry, your...

O'REILLY: Your body chemistry and...

LIEBERMAN: Exactly. Your body chemistry.

O'REILLY: OK. Now there are no warnings on any of the soda labels, and
nobody says any of this. But, you know, I -- and I wanted to do the

story
because, anecdotally, I've seen people, you know, in the office here and

all
of that, drink diet soda after diet soda after diet soda.

LIEBERMAN: Well, who did my makeup today actually said to me she's

drinking
a ton of diet soda and is suffering from migraines. There are reports of
migraines and fibromyalgia and certain illnesses disappearing when

people go
off diet sodas. So, I mean, there is a relationship between taking in a

lot
of this stuff -- we're not talking about the occasional user.

O'REILLY: No.

LIEBERMAN: But if -- you know, once again, you've got these excited

neurons
in your head, and it is related to migraines and fibromyalgia and a

number
of other illnesses that have been shown to go away.

O'REILLY: Right. And it doesn't do any -- your teeth any good either?

LIEBERMAN: It really -- it doesn't protect your teeth like Xylitol and

some
of the other sweeteners.

O'REILLY: All right, Doctor. I knew drinking 50 ounces of that stuff

wasn't
good.

LIEBERMAN: You were right, Bill.

O'REILLY: You know, one Dr. Pepper once in a while, fine, but, you know,
leave the six-pack home.

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1059
foxnews.com, The O'Reilly Factor, Shari Lieberman, diet soft drinks
(aspartame), Friday March 19 2004: Mike: Martini: Murray 3.21.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1063
positive response to Lieberman on The O'Reilly Factor:
Lieberman: Murray 3.22.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/927
Donald Rumsfeld, 1977 head of Searle Corp., got aspartame FDA approval:
Turner: Murray 12.23.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1039
three-page review: aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity:
Murray 11.22.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1026
brief aspartame review: formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 9.11.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/989 On 4.10.2003
the European Union Parliament voted 440 to 20 to approve sucralose,
limit cyclamates & reevaluate aspartame & stevia: Murray 4.12.3 rmforall

http://google.com gives 221,000 websites for "aspartame" , with the top
9 of 10 listings being anti-aspartame, while
http://groups.google.com finds on 700 MB of posts from 20 years of
Usenet groups, 83,800 posts, the top 10 being anti-aspartame.

http://news.google.com 28 recent aspartame items from 4500 sources.
http://www.AllTheWeb.com gives 291,700, the top 7 of 10 being
leading and very well informed volunteer anti-aspartame sites.
http://teoma.com/index.asp gives 85,700 websites, top 8 of 10 anti.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed lists 751 aspartame items.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1025
aspartame & formaldehyde toxicity: Murray 9.9.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages
for 1064 posts in a public searchable archive 120 members

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/messages 774 with 16,660 posts

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1047
Avoiding Hangover Hell 12.31.3 Mark Sherman, AP writer: Robert Swift,

MD:
[formaldehyde from methanol in aspartame]: Murray 1.16.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1048
hangovers from formaldehyde from methanol (aspartame?):
Schwarcz: Linsley: Murray 1.18.4

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1052
DMDC: Dimethyl dicarbonate 200mg/L in drinks adds methanol 98 mg/L
( becomes formaldehyde in body ): EU Scientific Committee on Foods

7.12.1:
Murray 1.22.4 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1024
aspartame review: methanol, formaldehyde, formic acid toxicity:
Murray 9.5.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/910
formaldehyde & formic acid from methanol in aspartame:
Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall

It is certain that high levels of aspartame use, above 2 liters daily
for months and years, must lead to chronic formaldehyde-formic acid
toxicity, since 11% of aspartame (1,120 mg in 2L diet soda, 5.6 12-oz
cans) is 123 mg methanol (wood alcohol), immediately released into the
body after drinking (unlike the large levels of methanol locked up in
molecules inside many fruits), then quickly transformed into
formaldehyde, which in turn becomes formic acid, both of which in
time are partially eliminated as carbon dioxide and water.

However, about 30% of the methanol remains in the body as cumulative
durable toxic metabolites of formaldehyde and formic acid-- 37 mg daily,
a gram every month. [Metabolism of aspartame in monkeys.
Oppermann JA, Muldoon E, Ranney RE.
J. Nutrition 1973 Oct; 103(10): 1454-1459.]
If 10% of the methanol is retained as formaldehyde, that would give 12
mg daily formaldehyde accumulation, about 60 times more than the 0.2 mg
from 10% retention of the 2 mg EPA daily limit for formaldehyde in

water.

Bear in mind that the EPA limit for formaldehyde in drinking water is
1 ppm, or 2 mg daily for a typical daily consumption of 2 L of water.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/835
RTM: ATSDR: EPA limit 1 ppm formaldehyde in drinking water July 1999
5.30.2 rmforall

This long-term low-level chronic toxic exposure leads to typical
patterns of increasingly severe complex symptoms, starting with
headache, fatigue, joint pain, irritability, memory loss, and
leading to vision and eye problems, and even seizures. In many cases
there is addiction. Probably there are immune system disorders, with a
hypersensitivity to these toxins and other chemicals.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/782
RTM: Smith, Terpening, Schmidt, Gums:
full text: aspartame, MSG, fibromyalgia 1.17.2 rmforall
Jerry D Smith, Chris M Terpening, Siegfried OF Schmidt, and John G Gums
Relief of Fibromyalgia Symptoms Following
Discontinuation of Dietary Excitotoxins.
The Annals of Pharmacotherapy 2001; 35(6): 702-706.
Malcolm Randall Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Gainesville, FL, USA.
BACKGROUND: Fibromyalgia is a common rheumatologic disorder that is
often difficult to treat effectively.
CASE SUMMARY: Four patients diagnosed with fibromyalgia syndrome
for two to 17 years are described.
All had undergone multiple treatment
modalities with limited success. All had complete, or nearly complete,
resolution of their symptoms within months after eliminating monosodium
glutamate (MSG) or MSG plus aspartame from their diet.
All patients were women with multiple comorbidities
prior to elimination of MSG.
All have had recurrence of symptoms whenever MSG is ingested.

Siegfried O. Schmidt, MD Asst. Clinical Prof.
Community Health and Family Medicine, U. Florida, Gainesville, FL
Shands Hospital West Oak Clinic Gainesville, FL 32608-3629
352-376-5071

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/846
RTM: aspartame in Merck Maxalt-MLT worsens migraine,
AstraZeneca Zomig, Eli Lilly Zyprexa,
J&J Merck Pepcid AC (Famotidine 10mg) Chewable Tab,
Pfizer Cool Mint Listerine Pocketpaks 7.16.2 rmforall
Migraine MLT-Down: an unusual presentation of migraine
in patients with aspartame-triggered headaches.
Newman LC, Lipton RB Headache 2001 Oct; 41(9): 899-901.
[Merck 10-mg Maxalt-MLT, for migraine, has 3.75 mg aspartame,
while 12 oz diet soda has 200 mg.]
Headache Institute, St. Lukes-Roosevelt Hospital Center, New York, NY
Department of Neurology
Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY
Innovative Medical Research


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/855
RTM: Blumenthall & Vance:
aspartame chewing gum headaches Nov 1997 7.28.2 rmforall
Harvey J. Blumenthal, MD, Dwight A Vance, RPh
Chewing Gum Headaches.
Headache 1997 Nov-Dec; 37(10): 665-6.
Department of Neurology, University of Oklahoma College of Medicine,
Tulsa, USA.
Aspartame, a popular dietetic sweetener, may provoke headache in some
susceptible individuals. Herein, we describe three cases of young women
with migraine who reported their headaches could be provoked by chewing
gum sweetened with aspartame. [6-8 mg aspartame per stick chewing gum]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/925
aspartame puts formaldehyde adducts into tissues, Part 1/2
full text, Trocho & Alemany 6.26.98: Murray 12.22.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/926
aspartame puts formaldehyde adducts into tissues, Part 2/2
full text, Trocho & Alemany 6.26.98: Murray 12.22.2 rmforall

http://ww.presidiotex.com/barcelona/index.html
Trocho C, Pardo R, Rafecas I, Virgili J, Remesar X,
Fernandez-Lopez JA, Alemany M ["Trok-ho"]
Formaldehyde derived from dietary aspartame binds to tissue
components in vivo. Life Sci 1998 Jun 26; 63(5): 337-49.
Departament de Bioquimica i Biologia Molecular, Facultat de Biologia,
Universitat de Barcelona, Spain.
http://www.presidiotex.com/barcelona/index.html
Maria Alemany, PhD (male)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/864
Murray: Butchko, Tephly, McMartin: Alemany: aspartame formaldehyde
adducts in rats 9.8.2 rmforall
Prof. Alemany vigorously affirms the validity of the Trocho study
against criticism:
Butchko, HH et al [24 authors], Aspartame: review of safety.
Regul. Toxicol. Pharmacol. 2002 April 1; 35 (2 Pt 2): S1-93, review
available for $35, [an industry paid organ]. Butchko:
"When all the research on aspartame, including evaluations in both the
premarketing and postmarketing periods, is examined as a whole, it is
clear that aspartame is safe, and there are no unresolved questions
regarding its safety under conditions of intended use."
[ They repeatedly pass on the ageless industry deceit that the methanol
in fruits and vegetables is as as biochemically available as that in
aspartame-- see the 1984 rebuttal by Monte, below.
In the same report, Schiffman concludes on page S49, not citing any
research after 1997, "Thus, the weight of the scientific evidence
indicates that aspartame does not cause headache."
Dr. Susan S. Schiffman, Dept. of Psychiatry, Duke University
919-684-3303, 660-5657
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/864
Murray: Butchko, Tephly, McMartin: Alemany: aspartame formaldehyde
adducts in rats 9.8.2 rmforall ]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/911
RTP ties to industry criticized by CSPI: Murray: 12.9.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1016
President Bush & formaldehyde (aspartame) toxicity: Ramazzini Foundation
carcinogenicity results Dec 2002: Soffritti: Murray 8.3.3 rmforall

p. 88 "The sweetening agent aspartame hydrolyzes in the gastrointestinal
tract to become free methyl alcohol, which is metabolized in the liver
to formaldehyde, formic acid, and CO2. (11)"
Medinsky MA & Dorman DC. 1994; Assessing risks of low-level
methanol exposure. CIIT Act. 14: 1-7.

Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2002 Dec; 982: 87-105.
Results of long-term experimental studies on the carcinogenicity of
formaldehyde and acetaldehyde in rats.
Soffritti M, Belpoggi F, Lambertin L, Lauriola M, Padovani M, Maltoni C.
Cancer Research Center, European Ramazzini Foundation for Oncology and
Environmental Sciences, Bologna, Italy.

Formaldehyde was administered for 104 weeks in drinking water supplied
ad libitum at concentrations of 1500, 1000, 500, 100, 50, 10, or 0 mg/L
to groups of 50 male and 50 female Sprague-Dawley rats beginning at
seven weeks of age.
Control animals (100 males and 100 females) received tap water only.
Acetaldehyde was administered to 50 male and 50 female Sprague-Dawley
rats beginning at six weeks of age at concentrations of 2,500, 1,500,
500, 250, 50, or 0 mg/L.
Animals were kept under observation until spontaneous death.
Formaldehyde and acetaldehyde were found to produce an increase in total
malignant tumors in the treated groups and showed specific carcinogenic
effects on various organs and tissues. PMID: 12562630

Surely the authors deliberately emphasized that aspartame is well-known
to be a source of formaldehyde, which is an extremely potent, cumulative
toxin, with complex, multiple effects on all tissues and organs.

This is even more significant, considering that they have already tested
aspartame, but not yet released the results:

p. 29-32 Table 1: The Ramazzinni Foundation Cancer Program
Project of [200] Long-Term Carcinogenicity Bioassays: Agents Studied

No. No. of Bioassays Species No. Route of Exposure
108. "Coca-Cola" 4 Rat 1,999 Ingestion, Transplantal

Route
109. "Pepsi-Cola" 1 Rat 400 Ingestion
110. Sucrose 1 Rat 400 Ingestion
111. Caffeine 1 Rat 800 Ingestion
112. Aspartame 1 Rat 1,800 Ingestion

http://members.nyas.org/events/confe...f_02_0429.html
Soffritti said that Coca-Cola showed no carcinogenicity.

It may be time to disclose these important aspartame results.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/934
24 recent formaldehyde toxicity [Comet assay] reports:
Murray 12.31.2 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/935
Comet assay finds DNA damage from sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin in
mice: Sasaki YF & Tsuda S Aug 2002: Murray 1.1.3 rmforall
[Also borderline evidence, in this pilot study of 39 food additives,
using test groups of 4 mice, for DNA damage from for stomach, colon,
liver, bladder, and lung 3 hr after oral dose of 2000 mg/kg aspartame--
a very high dose.]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/961
genotoxins, Comet assay in mice: Ace-K, stevia fine; aspartame poor;
sucralose, cyclamate, saccharin bad: Y.F. Sasaki Aug 2002:
Murray 1.27.3 rmforall [A detailed look at the data]

http://www.dorway.com/tldaddic.html 5-page review
Roberts HJ Aspartame (NutraSweet) addiction.
Townsend Letter 2000 Jan;
http://www.sunsentpress.com/
Sunshine Sentinel Press P.O.Box 17799 West Palm Beach, FL 33416
800-814-9800 561-588-7628 561-547-8008 fax

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/669
1038-page medical text "Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic"
published May 30 2001 $ 60.00 postpaid data from 1200 cases
available at http://www.amazon.com
over 600 references from standard medical research
************************************************** ***************


Recent Statements Debunking Health/Internet Rumors

“Don’t believe the rumors – widely spread on the Internet – that
aspartame … causes not only multiple sclerosis, but also lupus,
Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease, diabetes, Gulf War syndrome, and
brain tumors. ”

-University of California, Berkeley Wellness Letter, April 1999

“I have no problem with information dissemination, even when it is
wrong. But [this] has crossed the line. There is no evidence that
aspartame in any way causes, provokes, mimics or worsens MS. This series
of allegations are almost totally without foundation. They are rabidly
inaccurate and scandalously misinformative.”

-David Squillacote, MD, Senior Medical Advisor for the Multiple
Sclerosis
Foundation

“There continues to be unsubstantiated claims that the nonnutritive
sweetener aspartame (brand name NutraSweet) poses health risks to people
with diabetes. Aspartame has been approved by the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA), a governmental agency that conducts thorough
scientific reviews to determine foods are safe for public consumption.
The American Diabetes Association follows FDA recommendations and
recognizes that there is no credible scientific evidence linking
aspartame to any health-related problems for people with diabetes.”

-American Diabetes Association Statement, February 9, 1999

“MS and lupus have been around a lot longer than aspartame has, and
repeated scientific studies have found no connection between the
sweetener and such symptoms.”

-Associated Press, January 29, 1999

“This specimen of email scarelore, in wide circulation since
mid-December 1998, warns that the artificial sweetener aspartame (a.k.a.
"NutraSweet" and "Equal") is toxic to humans in a hundred different
ways. It even coins a new medical term for these effects: ‘aspartame
disease.’ Most of the allegations contradict the bulk of medical … but I
would point out that the agency [FDA] has common sense and years of
accumulated research on its side when it maintains that the sweetener is
safe for most people. As to aspartame's critics, it doesn't help their
cause that the information presented in the email is disorganized,
hysterical and poorly substantiated.”

-About.com

Ah! very good, YOU drink it, Lots of it .Please do so, Please.


  #8  
Old March 24th, 2004, 04:24 PM
Say not the Struggle nought Availeth
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Default Diet Soda [aspartame] Dangerous? Shari Lieberman, The O'Reilly


BTW, if consuming 2 l of diet cola yields 123 mg of methanol, and if the
average person is 150 kg, then the concentration of methanol is less
than 1 ppm. (mg/kg)

Are you, perchance, aware of the natural concentration of methanol in
the human body?

J.

The acute toxicity of methanol by ingestion, inhalation, and skin
contact is low. Ingestion of methanol or inhalation of high
concentrations can produce headache, drowsiness, blurred vision, nausea,
vomiting, blindness, and death. In humans, 60 to 250 mL is reported to
be a lethal dose. Prolonged or repeated skin contact can cause
irritation and inflammation; methanol can be absorbed through the skin
in toxic amounts. Contact of methanol with the eyes can cause irritation
and burns. Methanol is not considered to have adequate warning properties.

Methanol has not been found to be carcinogenic in humans. Information
available is insufficient to characterize the reproductive hazard
presented by methanol. In animal tests, the compound produced
developmental effects only at levels that were maternally toxic; hence,
it is not considered to be a highly significant hazard to the fetus.
Tests in bacterial or mammalian cell cultures demonstrate no mutagenic
activity.

Toxicity Data

LD50 oral (rat) 5628 mg/kg

LD50 skin (rabbit) 15,840 mg/kg

LC50 inhal (rat) 145,000 ppm (1 h)

PEL (OSHA) 200 ppm (260 mg/m3)

TLV-TWA (ACGIH) 200 ppm (260 mg/m3)--skin

STEL (ACGIH) 250 ppm (328 mg/m3)

http://www.hhmi.org/research/labsafe/lcss/lcss58.html

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Old March 25th, 2004, 01:52 AM
Heywood Mogroot
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Default Diet Soda [aspartame] Dangerous? reply not so.

who cares if it is dangerous, why drink something that tastes like
robot sweat?

I had a serious Mt Dew habit -- ~1L/day for 3 years, but now I have
gotten very used to my 58c/gallon Walmart water jugs, and appreciate
the more balanced energy level. I don't get the highs any more, but I
certainly don't miss the lows that come after.
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Old March 25th, 2004, 02:36 AM
Crafting Mom
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Default Diet Soda [aspartame] Dangerous? Shari Lieberman, The O'Reilly Factor 3.19.4: Murray 3.23.4 rmforall

Who cares? Soda pop has no place in anyone's healthy diet,
even the crap with sugar, high-fructose corn syrup, or whatever
sweetener of your choice in it. It's crap.


 




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