Well I knew it was coming.

After having such a great 5 weeks. The weight has finally stopped.. in fact
it seems to be on an upward trend!!

Alright so I'm being a little obsessive. I'll admit it. I'm not panicking
yet. My weigh day was monday.. no loss. I've weighed every day since and
first it was up .5 a lb now it's up a full lb. I'm concerned and hope it's
not a sign of things to come next monday. I had attributed my non loss to
all the salt I had in my diet (been drinking 2+ ltrs a day since to
compensate) but perhaps it's something else. Just as a side note, my rings
are a little tighter than before but not so tight that they won't come off.

As I see it I have a few options.

I can start the exercise now because perhaps this is all good eating can do
for me (although I don't get the increase in that case)

I can sweat it out and hope for the best.

Or I can start eating more (which is scary as well as going against my
natural hunger).

My thought is that I need to start incorporating the exercise but any
opinions out there?

As another side note, I am feeling intense cravings for something "good",
usually happens in the evening. Yet everytime I attempt to take a taste of
a goodie I find that it's poor quality (ie, tastes awful) and don't want it.
It feels like a mental thing although by 9pm by stomach now starts to feel a
little hungry. I go to bed at 10 so I normally ignore it but last night I
had a slice of toast with margarine and it didn't seem to hit the spot.

5'4, turning 30, weight 246.5, calorie intake roughly 1300 - 1400, carbs
normally lower than 150g.

Thanks
Cp

Cp wrote:

As I see it I have a few options.

I can start the exercise now because perhaps this is all good eating can do
for me (although I don't get the increase in that case)

Exercise is an integral part of the process. If you're going to be a
slender woman someday (and maintain that weight) you're going to have to
have exercise be a normal part of your life. I say start now.

I can sweat it out and hope for the best.

That's a good way to get in trouble. You're 240 pounds and the minimum
you ought to be eating is 2000 calories. You're losing muscle mass at
an equal rate as fat right now and slowing down your metabolism as we
speak. In other words, you're all set up for yo-yo dieting. If you
don't add exercise now you will gain more weight than you've already lost!

Or I can start eating more (which is scary as well as going against my
natural hunger).

Yes, eat more. Plan meals to get 30% of your calories from protein, 25%
from (healthy) fats and only about 45% from carbs, where the carb has to
have fiber or phytonutrients to be worthy of a place on your menu. This
sort of calorie load will be metabolized better, i.e., you'll be able to
eat more calories without adding fat... if you're exercising, too.

My thought is that I need to start incorporating the exercise but any
opinions out there?

The way to lose fat is four part:

1. Eat less
2. Exercise more
3. Repeat
4. Forever.

Each stage requires it's own attention and work. You've figured out how
to eat less. Now work on stage 2.

As another side note, I am feeling intense cravings for something "good",
usually happens in the evening. Yet everytime I attempt to take a taste of
a goodie I find that it's poor quality (ie, tastes awful) and don't want it.
It feels like a mental thing although by 9pm by stomach now starts to feel a
little hungry. I go to bed at 10 so I normally ignore it but last night I
had a slice of toast with margarine and it didn't seem to hit the spot.

Mix half a cup (or less ) of skim-milk cottage cheese with some flavored
yogurt for a creamy snack with lots of calcium and protein.

Have some apple slices dipped in natural peanut butter.

Eat half of a Balance bar (or your favorite protein bar - not "Energy"
bar, and pay attention to the calories, you don't want 300!)

5'4, turning 30, weight 246.5, calorie intake roughly 1300 - 1400, carbs
normally lower than 150g.

Good luck.

Dally
244/177/169

Are you a woman? Maybe it is cyclical fluid retention.

Also, what are you eating that adds up to 1300-1400 calories? That is, are
you sure your calorie count is right? If you cook at home, for example, it
is notoriously difficult to estimate the correct calories in meats because
there are so many different cuts you could be off by a factor of two or
three there. I stopped eating beef and pork altogether (expect for packages
where the calories are explicitly marked) and switched to fish and boneless
breast of chicken, which have a more predictable 100 calories per 100 gm.
Easy to keep track of.

If you weigh 246.5 lb and are eating a *true* 1300-1400 calories per day you
WILL lose weight. It's conservation of energy. I would continue for a
another couple of weeks and look forward to the scale starting to tick
downward again.

Of course adding exercise is always a good thing too.


doug

On 5/12/04 9:54 PM, in article
rs.com, "Cp"
wrote:

After having such a great 5 weeks. The weight has finally stopped.. in fact
it seems to be on an upward trend!!

Alright so I'm being a little obsessive. I'll admit it. I'm not panicking
yet. My weigh day was monday.. no loss. I've weighed every day since and
first it was up .5 a lb now it's up a full lb. I'm concerned and hope it's
not a sign of things to come next monday. I had attributed my non loss to
all the salt I had in my diet (been drinking 2+ ltrs a day since to
compensate) but perhaps it's something else. Just as a side note, my rings
are a little tighter than before but not so tight that they won't come off.

As I see it I have a few options.

I can start the exercise now because perhaps this is all good eating can do
for me (although I don't get the increase in that case)

I can sweat it out and hope for the best.

Or I can start eating more (which is scary as well as going against my
natural hunger).

My thought is that I need to start incorporating the exercise but any
opinions out there?

As another side note, I am feeling intense cravings for something "good",
usually happens in the evening. Yet everytime I attempt to take a taste of
a goodie I find that it's poor quality (ie, tastes awful) and don't want it.
It feels like a mental thing although by 9pm by stomach now starts to feel a
little hungry. I go to bed at 10 so I normally ignore it but last night I
had a slice of toast with margarine and it didn't seem to hit the spot.

5'4, turning 30, weight 246.5, calorie intake roughly 1300 - 1400, carbs
normally lower than 150g.

Thanks
Cp

Most people here have posted from experience
or clinical studies that changing your eating habits
without exercise is not a successful weight loss
strategy.

It is also not a good health strategy because there
are benefits to exercise that you can't get just from
eating right. A big example is preventing or
reversing osteoporosis. You need resistance and
aerobic exercise for that.

"Cp" wrote in message
.rogers.com...
After having such a great 5 weeks. The weight has finally stopped.. in
fact
it seems to be on an upward trend!!

Alright so I'm being a little obsessive. I'll admit it. I'm not
panicking
yet. My weigh day was monday.. no loss. I've weighed every day since and
first it was up .5 a lb now it's up a full lb. I'm concerned and hope
it's
not a sign of things to come next monday. I had attributed my non loss to
all the salt I had in my diet (been drinking 2+ ltrs a day since to
compensate) but perhaps it's something else. Just as a side note, my
rings
are a little tighter than before but not so tight that they won't come
off.

As I see it I have a few options.

I can start the exercise now because perhaps this is all good eating can
do
for me (although I don't get the increase in that case)

I can sweat it out and hope for the best.

Or I can start eating more (which is scary as well as going against my
natural hunger).

My thought is that I need to start incorporating the exercise but any
opinions out there?

As another side note, I am feeling intense cravings for something "good",
usually happens in the evening. Yet everytime I attempt to take a taste
of
a goodie I find that it's poor quality (ie, tastes awful) and don't want
it.
It feels like a mental thing although by 9pm by stomach now starts to feel
a
little hungry. I go to bed at 10 so I normally ignore it but last night I
had a slice of toast with margarine and it didn't seem to hit the spot.

5'4, turning 30, weight 246.5, calorie intake roughly 1300 - 1400, carbs
normally lower than 150g.

Thanks
Cp

"Ignoramus20355" wrote in message
...
In article ers.com, Cp
wrote:
such things happen before periods alsso, when is your period due?

My wife gains about 5 lbs before a period!
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"It's never too late to have a happy childhood."

Yeah, sometimes it's a bitch to be a woman.. can't use that excuse though.
Just finished it this weekend.

"Dally" wrote in message
...
Cp wrote:

As I see it I have a few options.

I can start the exercise now because perhaps this is all good eating can
do
for me (although I don't get the increase in that case)

Exercise is an integral part of the process. If you're going to be a
slender woman someday (and maintain that weight) you're going to have to
have exercise be a normal part of your life. I say start now.

I was planning to start exercising at some point. I just had never gotten
into the groove yet. Looks like I will have to start doing something.

I can sweat it out and hope for the best.

That's a good way to get in trouble. You're 240 pounds and the minimum
you ought to be eating is 2000 calories. You're losing muscle mass at
an equal rate as fat right now and slowing down your metabolism as we
speak. In other words, you're all set up for yo-yo dieting. If you
don't add exercise now you will gain more weight than you've already lost!

There is no way in hades that I could eat 2000 calories and lose. Been
there, done that. Gained. In eating more I mean to about a 1500 - 1600
calorie range. I've heard it said here before and I agree that the 10x rule
doesn't apply when you're dealing with higher weights.

Also, to say I'm not exercising means not on purpose. I also am more active
especially with the nicer weather. I'm not doing what I would consider
exercise, but I'm not exactly doing nothing. I'm not worried about muscle
loss. You'd have to see me to understand that one.



The way to lose fat is four part:

1. Eat less
2. Exercise more
3. Repeat
4. Forever.

Each stage requires it's own attention and work. You've figured out how
to eat less. Now work on stage 2.

That's the plan stan. Just didn't think I'd have to do it quite yet but I
guess now that I've shed the excess weight I had from simply over-eating I
now need to work at losing it. *sigh* ain't that always the case? Anyhow..
I am looking forward to starting something now that the warm weather is
here.

As another side note, I am feeling intense cravings for something
"good",
usually happens in the evening. Yet everytime I attempt to take a taste
of
a goodie I find that it's poor quality (ie, tastes awful) and don't want
it.
It feels like a mental thing although by 9pm by stomach now starts to
feel a
little hungry. I go to bed at 10 so I normally ignore it but last night
I
had a slice of toast with margarine and it didn't seem to hit the spot.

Mix half a cup (or less ) of skim-milk cottage cheese with some flavored
yogurt for a creamy snack with lots of calcium and protein.

Have some apple slices dipped in natural peanut butter.

Eat half of a Balance bar (or your favorite protein bar - not "Energy"
bar, and pay attention to the calories, you don't want 300!)

I think I will stick to fruit. I can't eat protein bars. I find they taste
almost sour to me. I might try a bowl of cereal with chopped fruit instead.
Or perhaps just the fruit. We'll see.

5'4, turning 30, weight 246.5, calorie intake roughly 1300 - 1400, carbs
normally lower than 150g.

Good luck.

Dally
244/177/169

"Jayjay" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:54:03 GMT, "Cp" wrote:

After having such a great 5 weeks. The weight has finally stopped.. in
fact
it seems to be on an upward trend!!

Alright so I'm being a little obsessive. I'll admit it. I'm not
panicking
yet. My weigh day was monday.. no loss. I've weighed every day since
and
first it was up .5 a lb now it's up a full lb. I'm concerned and hope
it's
not a sign of things to come next monday. I had attributed my non loss
to
all the salt I had in my diet (been drinking 2+ ltrs a day since to
compensate) but perhaps it's something else. Just as a side note, my
rings
are a little tighter than before but not so tight that they won't come
off.


This right here would be my first key. You've been eating more salt
in your diet, your rings are tight....

Cut out the salt. Try to go salt free for a few days and see what
happens.

Done that. Still waiting *sigh*.


As I see it I have a few options.

I can start the exercise now because perhaps this is all good eating can
do
for me (although I don't get the increase in that case)

Ah... exercise. YES!!! Exercise.

But let me warn you, if you are anything like me, exercise can cause a
stall if you go back at it after a long break. For me, after taking
a break from exercise, when I start back up my body retains water
again for at least 2 weeks.

Not everyone is like me or reacts to water fluctuations like I do.
But I'll throw that out there as a warning to watch out for.

Perhaps that's what started this all in the first place. With the
walking/hiking I got in last week (2 days in a row). I know I puff up
during exercise and can't wear my rings when I do. They damn near cut off
circulation!! So perhaps this is it? I am going to start exercising
though. That's been my plan all along.. I guess the time has just come to
get my arse in gear.

"Doug Lerner" wrote in message
...
Are you a woman? Maybe it is cyclical fluid retention.

Had period last week.

Also, what are you eating that adds up to 1300-1400 calories? That is, are
you sure your calorie count is right? If you cook at home, for example, it
is notoriously difficult to estimate the correct calories in meats because
there are so many different cuts you could be off by a factor of two or
three there. I stopped eating beef and pork altogether (expect for
packages
where the calories are explicitly marked) and switched to fish and
boneless
breast of chicken, which have a more predictable 100 calories per 100 gm.
Easy to keep track of.

If anything I could be over-estimating. I'm almost certain that it's a true
count. Most of the things I eat that aren't fresh (aside from meat) has a
label and I won't eat it if it doesn't.


If you weigh 246.5 lb and are eating a *true* 1300-1400 calories per day
you
WILL lose weight. It's conservation of energy. I would continue for a
another couple of weeks and look forward to the scale starting to tick
downward again.

Of course adding exercise is always a good thing too.

That was my plan all along to add exercise when the weight loss slowed.
Looks like the time is now.


doug

On 5/12/04 9:54 PM, in article
rs.com, "Cp"
wrote:

After having such a great 5 weeks. The weight has finally stopped.. in
fact
it seems to be on an upward trend!!

Alright so I'm being a little obsessive. I'll admit it. I'm not
panicking
yet. My weigh day was monday.. no loss. I've weighed every day since
and
first it was up .5 a lb now it's up a full lb. I'm concerned and hope
it's
not a sign of things to come next monday. I had attributed my non loss
to
all the salt I had in my diet (been drinking 2+ ltrs a day since to
compensate) but perhaps it's something else. Just as a side note, my
rings
are a little tighter than before but not so tight that they won't come
off.

As I see it I have a few options.

I can start the exercise now because perhaps this is all good eating can
do
for me (although I don't get the increase in that case)

I can sweat it out and hope for the best.

Or I can start eating more (which is scary as well as going against my
natural hunger).

My thought is that I need to start incorporating the exercise but any
opinions out there?

As another side note, I am feeling intense cravings for something
"good",
usually happens in the evening. Yet everytime I attempt to take a taste
of
a goodie I find that it's poor quality (ie, tastes awful) and don't want
it.
It feels like a mental thing although by 9pm by stomach now starts to
feel a
little hungry. I go to bed at 10 so I normally ignore it but last night
I
had a slice of toast with margarine and it didn't seem to hit the spot.

5'4, turning 30, weight 246.5, calorie intake roughly 1300 - 1400, carbs
normally lower than 150g.

Thanks
Cp

"Patricia Heil" wrote in message
...
Most people here have posted from experience
or clinical studies that changing your eating habits
without exercise is not a successful weight loss
strategy.

It is also not a good health strategy because there
are benefits to exercise that you can't get just from
eating right. A big example is preventing or
reversing osteoporosis. You need resistance and
aerobic exercise for that.

I have always had plans to begin exercise. I was enjoying the effortless
weight loss so I didn't bother starting. Looks like now the "real" work
begins. I do also realize the benefits of exercise and I'm looking forward
to adding it to my healthy lifestyle.

"Cp" wrote in message
.rogers.com...
After having such a great 5 weeks. The weight has finally stopped.. in
fact
it seems to be on an upward trend!!

Alright so I'm being a little obsessive. I'll admit it. I'm not
panicking
yet. My weigh day was monday.. no loss. I've weighed every day since
and
first it was up .5 a lb now it's up a full lb. I'm concerned and hope
it's
not a sign of things to come next monday. I had attributed my non loss
to
all the salt I had in my diet (been drinking 2+ ltrs a day since to
compensate) but perhaps it's something else. Just as a side note, my
rings
are a little tighter than before but not so tight that they won't come
off.

As I see it I have a few options.

I can start the exercise now because perhaps this is all good eating can
do
for me (although I don't get the increase in that case)

I can sweat it out and hope for the best.

Or I can start eating more (which is scary as well as going against my
natural hunger).

My thought is that I need to start incorporating the exercise but any
opinions out there?

As another side note, I am feeling intense cravings for something
"good",
usually happens in the evening. Yet everytime I attempt to take a taste
of
a goodie I find that it's poor quality (ie, tastes awful) and don't want
it.
It feels like a mental thing although by 9pm by stomach now starts to
feel
a
little hungry. I go to bed at 10 so I normally ignore it but last night
I
had a slice of toast with margarine and it didn't seem to hit the spot.

5'4, turning 30, weight 246.5, calorie intake roughly 1300 - 1400, carbs
normally lower than 150g.

Thanks
Cp

My weigh day was monday.. no loss. I've weighed every day since
and
first it was up .5 a lb now it's up a full lb.

Step away from the scale, and no one will get hurt.

I'm concerned and hope it's
not a sign of things to come next monday.

It is WAY too early to get concerned. You have probably hit a plateau,
which is inevitable. Keep on plan, and your weight loss will resume.

I can start the exercise now because perhaps this is all good eating
can do
for me (although I don't get the increase in that case)

Exercise is key to continuing and maintaining weight loss, as well as
vital to good health. I suggest starting slowly and carefully. What
kinds of exercise do you have in mind? Do you have any limitations
(knee injuries, etc.) that need to be watched? Do you have access to
and are you inclined to join a gym, or perhaps a swimming pool? Do you
prefer competitive sports?

My suggestion is start walking, slowly and short distances at first,
and build up from there.

As always, YMMV.

Kasey
365/265/???