June 11 WI - Prairie Roots

Did you?

--
LESLIE ARNIM
"Fred" wrote in message
news
Okay!

There's the Weds meeting. There's also a Thurs meeting - 8am tomorrow
morning. I don't think I can get dehydrated enough by then!!!!

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 01:31:15 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

You better get with the program or I will have to come give you a kick.

What does the doc's letter say? Do you suppose that this is a trend that
might be hard to stop?

--
LESLIE ARNIM
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Not by a long shot (of water or whiskey!) And an addition 50 mile
bike ride did not help either.

I have a feeling this is going to be a costly month. Or I produce my
doc's letter. I would rather rein it in but .... Maybe I was less
fatigued on the 94 mile bike ride this year because I have more
reserves??

Let's see how the rest of the week and weekend go

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:06:49 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Did you?

Oh I totally understand. I also am baffled by the two year desire to slide.
I cannot remember it being particularly difficult the first year. This
problem area came along around 18 months. I was very concerned when the
trend was up, and with hindsight I needed to be concerned. When I began to
return to my other level of eating the weight is falling off me, and the
first week was a Really Hungry Week. Now in the third week of eating the way
I was in year one of maintenance, I am not particularly hungry, feel
excellent, have a ton of energy and the whole five pounds was around the
area of my waist, suddenly I look a whole lot better again.
I too know this is not about the money. This is what the change management
people call relapse. It is because people who lose weight never reach the
termination stage that others (such as reformed smokers) often reach where
they are never going back. It is a subtle thing. 250 calories a day extra
will provide you with a half pound of fat gained per week. That is two big
apples, one bagel, whatever.

--
LESLIE ARNIM
"Fred" wrote in message
...
I went for 170. BUT he would not sign off on it until he checked a
BMI website. That is why I am reluctant to use the letter. It
provides PERMISSION which I may not want. I do not want a trend, even
a slow one.

But what is reality? I know that I kept it off for almost two years.
So it is not impossible. Was I in need of more food on the Europe
hike? I think the answer is yes. Is this a reaction to "starvation?"
I don't know. Is this a more comfortable weight or will I just slowly
creep up? I don't know.

I do think that I should eat a few fewer sushi meals and save up for a
full scoping of BMI/basal/fat%.

I'm sure you can appreciate where I am with the WI costing money????
It is not the cost - it is the ADMISSION.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:56:10 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

What does the doc's letter say? Do you suppose that this is a trend that
might be hard to stop?

You've hit the nail on the head. The creepy up is so subtle. With me it
started when we were on vacation. The first few days I said no to
dessert, then perhaps a sorbet after dinner. Then I began to sample the
pastries and a few more pieces of bread. Even an extra piece of cheese
at breakfast was more than I needed to maintain my weight. After
getting back to tracking and seeing exactly what I am eating on paper,
it is far easier to say no to an extra this or that and to continue
losing.

"Lesanne" wrote in message
...
Oh I totally understand. I also am baffled by the two year desire to
slide. I cannot remember it being particularly difficult the first
year. This problem area came along around 18 months. I was very
concerned when the trend was up, and with hindsight I needed to be
concerned. When I began to return to my other level of eating the
weight is falling off me, and the first week was a Really Hungry Week.
Now in the third week of eating the way I was in year one of
maintenance, I am not particularly hungry, feel excellent, have a ton
of energy and the whole five pounds was around the area of my waist,
suddenly I look a whole lot better again.
I too know this is not about the money. This is what the change
management people call relapse. It is because people who lose weight
never reach the termination stage that others (such as reformed
smokers) often reach where they are never going back. It is a subtle
thing. 250 calories a day extra will provide you with a half pound of
fat gained per week. That is two big apples, one bagel, whatever.

--
LESLIE ARNIM
"Fred" wrote in message
...
I went for 170. BUT he would not sign off on it until he checked a
BMI website. That is why I am reluctant to use the letter. It
provides PERMISSION which I may not want. I do not want a trend,
even
a slow one.

But what is reality? I know that I kept it off for almost two years.
So it is not impossible. Was I in need of more food on the Europe
hike? I think the answer is yes. Is this a reaction to
"starvation?"
I don't know. Is this a more comfortable weight or will I just
slowly
creep up? I don't know.

I do think that I should eat a few fewer sushi meals and save up for
a
full scoping of BMI/basal/fat%.

I'm sure you can appreciate where I am with the WI costing money????
It is not the cost - it is the ADMISSION.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:56:10 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

What does the doc's letter say? Do you suppose that this is a trend
that
might be hard to stop?

Lesanne wrote:

Oh I totally understand. I also am baffled by the two year desire to slide.
I cannot remember it being particularly difficult the first year. This
problem area came along around 18 months. I was very concerned when the
trend was up, and with hindsight I needed to be concerned. When I began to
return to my other level of eating the weight is falling off me, and the
first week was a Really Hungry Week. Now in the third week of eating the way
I was in year one of maintenance, I am not particularly hungry, feel
excellent, have a ton of energy and the whole five pounds was around the
area of my waist, suddenly I look a whole lot better again.
I too know this is not about the money. This is what the change management
people call relapse. It is because people who lose weight never reach the
termination stage that others (such as reformed smokers) often reach where
they are never going back. It is a subtle thing. 250 calories a day extra
will provide you with a half pound of fat gained per week. That is two big
apples, one bagel, whatever.

The other thing with stuff like smoking is that you can live without it.
You cannot live without food!

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

You don't have to journal, you never did before when you were losing, or not
consistently. What you have to do is decide that you prefer being at or near
goal, to eating the candy. Not "try" not to eat it. Decide. Then stop eating
it because you decided. My good buddy Nancy used to hand me a pencil and say
"TRY to drop that will you?" and when I would drop it she would hand it back
and say no, I did not say drop it, I said Try to.....

You decided before to eat less to lose that weight. If you don't decide
fairly soon to do it again, you are going to be far enough from goal to be
perhaps depressing. Dangerous ground. Or get off your rear and go get that
body fat measurement. You have been talking about it for months. Now Go. I
am tired of being on the bottom.

--
LESLIE ARNIM
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Those apples are subtle (G)

Thanks for the support. I have to figure it out.

I think the candy over the last few weeks has been less subtle and a
definite hit. I am resisting THE JOURNAL. If I was as successful at
resisting the junk it would be wonderful.

I don't think HUNGER has been a big part but maybe a bit. I know for
the 94 mile bike ride I ate. Last year I was more judicious and
probably ate less and drank less gatorade. But I do think that I felt
better fatigue-wise this year. But one day of biking is not really
the problem.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:39:18 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh I totally understand. I also am baffled by the two year desire to
slide.
I cannot remember it being particularly difficult the first year. This
problem area came along around 18 months. I was very concerned when the
trend was up, and with hindsight I needed to be concerned. When I began to
return to my other level of eating the weight is falling off me, and the
first week was a Really Hungry Week. Now in the third week of eating the
way
I was in year one of maintenance, I am not particularly hungry, feel
excellent, have a ton of energy and the whole five pounds was around the
area of my waist, suddenly I look a whole lot better again.
I too know this is not about the money. This is what the change management
people call relapse. It is because people who lose weight never reach the
termination stage that others (such as reformed smokers) often reach where
they are never going back. It is a subtle thing. 250 calories a day extra
will provide you with a half pound of fat gained per week. That is two big
apples, one bagel, whatever.

yep

--
LESLIE ARNIM
"Kate Dicey" wrote in message
...
Lesanne wrote:

Oh I totally understand. I also am baffled by the two year desire to
slide. I cannot remember it being particularly difficult the first year.
This problem area came along around 18 months. I was very concerned when
the trend was up, and with hindsight I needed to be concerned. When I
began to return to my other level of eating the weight is falling off me,
and the first week was a Really Hungry Week. Now in the third week of
eating the way I was in year one of maintenance, I am not particularly
hungry, feel excellent, have a ton of energy and the whole five pounds
was around the area of my waist, suddenly I look a whole lot better
again.
I too know this is not about the money. This is what the change
management people call relapse. It is because people who lose weight
never reach the termination stage that others (such as reformed smokers)
often reach where they are never going back. It is a subtle thing. 250
calories a day extra will provide you with a half pound of fat gained per
week. That is two big apples, one bagel, whatever.

The other thing with stuff like smoking is that you can live without it.
You cannot live without food!

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

but are you admitting there are issues and might paying make you look at it
a bit harder, is avoiding the reality a good thing, Lee, who has put on
kicking boot for one who has been an inspiration
Fred wrote in message
...
I went for 170. BUT he would not sign off on it until he checked a
BMI website. That is why I am reluctant to use the letter. It
provides PERMISSION which I may not want. I do not want a trend, even
a slow one.

But what is reality? I know that I kept it off for almost two years.
So it is not impossible. Was I in need of more food on the Europe
hike? I think the answer is yes. Is this a reaction to "starvation?"
I don't know. Is this a more comfortable weight or will I just slowly
creep up? I don't know.

I do think that I should eat a few fewer sushi meals and save up for a
full scoping of BMI/basal/fat%.

I'm sure you can appreciate where I am with the WI costing money????
It is not the cost - it is the ADMISSION.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:56:10 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

What does the doc's letter say? Do you suppose that this is a trend that
might be hard to stop?

but reading this discussion lets me know that the real success is not giving
up, Lee
Kate Dicey wrote in message
...
Lesanne wrote:

Oh I totally understand. I also am baffled by the two year desire to
slide.
I cannot remember it being particularly difficult the first year. This
problem area came along around 18 months. I was very concerned when the
trend was up, and with hindsight I needed to be concerned. When I began
to
return to my other level of eating the weight is falling off me, and the
first week was a Really Hungry Week. Now in the third week of eating the
way
I was in year one of maintenance, I am not particularly hungry, feel
excellent, have a ton of energy and the whole five pounds was around the
area of my waist, suddenly I look a whole lot better again.
I too know this is not about the money. This is what the change
management
people call relapse. It is because people who lose weight never reach
the
termination stage that others (such as reformed smokers) often reach
where
they are never going back. It is a subtle thing. 250 calories a day
extra
will provide you with a half pound of fat gained per week. That is two
big
apples, one bagel, whatever.

The other thing with stuff like smoking is that you can live without it.
You cannot live without food!

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Do the body fat measurement first. If you are trying to lose muscle it is
going to be very difficult, and counter-productive.

If it is creeping fat, you don't want it. You look really really good at
goal. Much younger.
--
LESLIE ARNIM
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Actually, I journaled after reaching Lifetime but then stopped.

I will TRY to absorb the info you've provided (G)

I am already far enough from goal. Don't expect to make it this week
giving me one more week.

Yeah, I know - also need to setup the Dermatology appt, too! (G) Fix
the back gate, remove dead cherry tree.......

Plan summer vacation, etc......

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:38:05 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

You don't have to journal, you never did before when you were losing, or
not
consistently. What you have to do is decide that you prefer being at or
near
goal, to eating the candy. Not "try" not to eat it. Decide. Then stop
eating
it because you decided. My good buddy Nancy used to hand me a pencil and
say
"TRY to drop that will you?" and when I would drop it she would hand it
back
and say no, I did not say drop it, I said Try to.....

You decided before to eat less to lose that weight. If you don't decide
fairly soon to do it again, you are going to be far enough from goal to be
perhaps depressing. Dangerous ground. Or get off your rear and go get that
body fat measurement. You have been talking about it for months. Now Go. I
am tired of being on the bottom.