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Obesity and breast cancer
According to new research from the american cancer society, breast
cancer increases with the more weight a woman puts on during adulthood. Researchers say this is the first study to link weight gain with an increased risk for all types of breast cancer, even if the woman is not taking hormone replacement therapy after menopause. The research shows extremely obese women are up to three times more likely to develop cancer that spreads, than women with less weight gain. Check out the video about this research: http://www.groundhog.tv/apps/editor/staticplayer.jsp?clip=1148415946404.wmv"img src=" |
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 19:07:54 -0400, Dally wrote:
wrote: According to new research from the american cancer society, breast cancer increases with the more weight a woman puts on during adulthood. Conversely, hstory of anorexia in youth is assotiated with lower risk of breast cancer. Gasp! Are you trying to say that being obese is bad for my health? Ever hear of estrogen? Being fatter is associated with having higher estrogen levels. (I'm not sure whether fat actually makes the estrogen or just stores it.) Many (but not all) breast cancers respond to estrogen. I'd expect estrogen-responding cancers to respond where there's more estrogen. So this is hardly shocking news. It is hardly shocking, but very instructive. i |
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Ignoramus8797 wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 19:07:54 -0400, Dally wrote: Ever hear of estrogen? Being fatter is associated with having higher estrogen levels. (I'm not sure whether fat actually makes the estrogen or just stores it.) Many (but not all) breast cancers respond to estrogen. I'd expect estrogen-responding cancers to respond where there's more estrogen. So this is hardly shocking news. It is hardly shocking, but very instructive. How on earth is it instructive? You understand that estrogen has many positive uses, right? For example, it provides a lot of protection against heart disease. Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or estrogen-sensitive breast cancer? This is not instructive. It's just a meaningless factoid. Dally |
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 11:01:39 -0400, Dally wrote:
Ignoramus8797 wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006 19:07:54 -0400, Dally wrote: Ever hear of estrogen? Being fatter is associated with having higher estrogen levels. (I'm not sure whether fat actually makes the estrogen or just stores it.) Many (but not all) breast cancers respond to estrogen. I'd expect estrogen-responding cancers to respond where there's more estrogen. So this is hardly shocking news. It is hardly shocking, but very instructive. How on earth is it instructive? You understand that estrogen has many positive uses, right? For example, it provides a lot of protection against heart disease. And so does calorie restriction. Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or estrogen-sensitive breast cancer? This is not instructive. It's just a meaningless factoid. Not at all meaningless, if you realize that calorie restriction reduces risk of heart disease as well as cancer. i |
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Dally wrote: Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or estrogen-sensitive breast cancer? Altho a worthy cause, the breast cancer subject gets all the press and funding it seems as people jump on the bandwagon to wear/buy pink ribbon products. If they only realized that heart disease is the leading cause of death for women and not breast cancer - the stats are startling: - 267,000 women die each year from heart attacks, which kill six times as many women as breast cancer - Heart disease is the leading cause of death of American women and kills 32% of them. - 43% of deaths in American women, or nearly 500,000, are caused by cardiovascular disease (heart disease and stroke) each year. - More women than men die of heart disease each year, yet women receive only: 33% of angioplasties, stents and bypass surgeries 28% of inplantable defibrillators and 36% of open-heart surgeries http://www.womenheart.org/informatio...fact_sheet.asp joanne |
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On 25 May 2006 09:10:00 -0700, joanne wrote:
Dally wrote: Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or estrogen-sensitive breast cancer? Altho a worthy cause, the breast cancer subject gets all the press and funding it seems as people jump on the bandwagon to wear/buy pink ribbon products. If they only realized that heart disease is the leading cause of death for women and not breast cancer - the stats are startling: - 267,000 women die each year from heart attacks, which kill six times as many women as breast cancer - Heart disease is the leading cause of death of American women and kills 32% of them. - 43% of deaths in American women, or nearly 500,000, are caused by cardiovascular disease (heart disease and stroke) each year. - More women than men die of heart disease each year, yet women receive only: 33% of angioplasties, stents and bypass surgeries 28% of inplantable defibrillators and 36% of open-heart surgeries http://www.womenheart.org/informatio...fact_sheet.asp I am confused. Are women not receiving treatments that they need, due to, say, discrimination or worse health coverage than men have, or are they receiving fewer of these treatments because they are not warranted in their individual situations? If it is the former, it would be interesting to see some substantiation. It would be strange to see hospitals and doctors to decline revenue from these expensive procedures if they can be performed and billed for, just because their recipient is a woman. If it is the latter (these procedures are less often warranted), then I am not sure what is the point of mentioning these numbers at all. Again, Dally's argument about how eating less could cause heart disease through lowered estrogen, is still invalid since eating less reduces chances of heart disease as well. i |
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"Ignoramus5457" wrote in message . .. On 25 May 2006 09:10:00 -0700, joanne wrote: Dally wrote: Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or estrogen-sensitive breast cancer? Altho a worthy cause, the breast cancer subject gets all the press and funding it seems as people jump on the bandwagon to wear/buy pink ribbon products. If they only realized that heart disease is the leading cause of death for women and not breast cancer - the stats are startling: - 267,000 women die each year from heart attacks, which kill six times as many women as breast cancer - Heart disease is the leading cause of death of American women and kills 32% of them. - 43% of deaths in American women, or nearly 500,000, are caused by cardiovascular disease (heart disease and stroke) each year. - More women than men die of heart disease each year, yet women receive only: 33% of angioplasties, stents and bypass surgeries 28% of inplantable defibrillators and 36% of open-heart surgeries http://www.womenheart.org/informatio...fact_sheet.asp I am confused. Are women not receiving treatments that they need, due to, say, discrimination or worse health coverage than men have, or are they receiving fewer of these treatments because they are not warranted in their individual situations? Women having heart attacks tend to present differently than men. Most treatments, including drugs are tested on men and then assumed to work as well for women. Again, Dally's argument about how eating less could cause heart disease through lowered estrogen, is still invalid since eating less reduces chances of heart disease as well. She did not argue that eating less causes heart disease. She said that estrogen is heart-protecting and there is a relationship between body fat and estrogen. -- the volleyballchick |
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Ignoramus5457 wrote:
On 25 May 2006 09:10:00 -0700, joanne wrote: Dally wrote: Guess which one is more likely to a kill a woman: heart disease or estrogen-sensitive breast cancer? Altho a worthy cause, the breast cancer subject gets all the press and funding it seems as people jump on the bandwagon to wear/buy pink ribbon products. If they only realized that heart disease is the leading cause of death for women and not breast cancer - the stats are startling: - 267,000 women die each year from heart attacks, which kill six times as many women as breast cancer - Heart disease is the leading cause of death of American women and kills 32% of them. - 43% of deaths in American women, or nearly 500,000, are caused by cardiovascular disease (heart disease and stroke) each year. - More women than men die of heart disease each year, yet women receive only: 33% of angioplasties, stents and bypass surgeries 28% of inplantable defibrillators and 36% of open-heart surgeries http://www.womenheart.org/informatio...fact_sheet.asp I am confused. Are women not receiving treatments that they need, due to, say, discrimination or worse health coverage than men have, or are they receiving fewer of these treatments because they are not warranted in their individual situations? Research money has not be allocated to women's diseases until recently -- not in the same way as "men's" issues. -- jmk in NC |
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