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how much Splenda in Diet Rite?
I went on the Diet Rite web page and the only available information is
a copy of the label from the can. I contacted their customer service and explained that Atkins requires us to count a Splenda packet as a carb (even though their label says zero carbs) and could they please tell me how much Splenda was in a can, preferably in terms of teaspoons, tablespoons, or packets. I have not gotten an answer. Does anybody here know? Remove SPAMDEFENSE in address to reply. |
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how much Splenda in Diet Rite?
Lyne wrote in
: I went on the Diet Rite web page and the only available information is a copy of the label from the can. I contacted their customer service and explained that Atkins requires us to count a Splenda packet as a carb (even though their label says zero carbs) and could they please tell me how much Splenda was in a can, preferably in terms of teaspoons, tablespoons, or packets. I thought most manufacturers just used liquid splenda, no calories, no carbs. It's the filler that adds carbs. So if the label says 'sucralose', and doesn't list maltodextrin, which splenda uses as filler, then it's pure sucralose. Chakolate -- The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment. --Dorothy Nevill |
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how much Splenda in Diet Rite?
Lyne wrote:
I went on the Diet Rite web page and the only available information is a copy of the label from the can. I contacted their customer service and explained that Atkins requires us to count a Splenda packet as a carb (even though their label says zero carbs) and could they please tell me how much Splenda was in a can, preferably in terms of teaspoons, tablespoons, or packets. They don't use Splenda in the packet or bulk form, they get the straight sucralose without carb padding, because they make it in large amounts. So there are no carbs from the Splenda. At home, you would need precision tweezers to find the few milligrams of sucralose in a packet (or spoonful of bulk) without the maltodextrin padding. -- jamie ) "There's a seeker born every minute." |
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how much Splenda in Diet Rite?
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:43:45 +0000, Lyne wrote:
(jamie) wrote: Lyne wrote: I went on the Diet Rite web page and the only available information is a copy of the label from the can. I contacted their customer service and explained that Atkins requires us to count a Splenda packet as a carb (even though their label says zero carbs) and could they please tell me how much Splenda was in a can, preferably in terms of teaspoons, tablespoons, or packets. They don't use Splenda in the packet or bulk form, they get the straight sucralose without carb padding, because they make it in large amounts. So there are no carbs from the Splenda. I think that's great, if I'm reading you correctly, that sucralose does not count as carbs but Splenda does. No. ABSOLUTELY NOT. Splenda is a brand name of sucralose. Unless they've licensed production of sucralose (not, to my knowledge), the two words are synonymous. If they _have_ licensed the production of sucralose, all Splenda is sucralose, but some sucralose is not Splenda. Sucralose is retailed under the Splenda brand as bulk powder, powder in packets, and tablets. It is also wholesaled to food manufacturers in a water solution (I _believe_, but do not know, that it is not wholesaled as pure powder). The retail bulk and packeted powder contain enough fluffed sugars to make volume measures roughly equivalent to cane sugar, ie, to make it the teaspoon-for-teaspoon equivalent of table sugar. The tablets contain a much smaller amount of bulking agent. The _wholesale_ product contains only sucralose. Any product label that reports "sucralose" is reporting pure, unadulterated, no other carbohydrate, sucralose. For reasons not made public, the manufacturer does not permit the retail sale of pure sucralose products. Some quantity of the wholesale product is occasionally available from black market channels (for which I, for one, am SUPREMELY grateful). Most of the labels say "sucralose (Splenda brand)". The labels must list the ingredients. Under the extremely unlikely circumstance that some manufacturer chose to waste money on the bulked Splenda for their product, they would be required to call out the added carbohydrates, either separately (water, maltodextrin, dextrose, natural and artificial flavorings, sucralose) or as the blend (water, Splenda brand sweetener (contains maltodextrin, dextrose, sucralose), natural and artificial flavors). If you don't see it on the label, it isn't there. Or the manufacturer is breaking the law, but since that would be for economic reasons, it would have nothing to do with the presence of bulked powdered sucralose. Martin (215/167/165 since 4/2003) -- Martin Golding Salad isn't _food_, salad is what food _eats_. KotLQ KotSM SMTC #2 member PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals) |
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how much Splenda in Diet Rite?
"Martin Golding" wrote:
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:43:45 +0000, Lyne wrote: (jamie) wrote: Lyne wrote: I went on the Diet Rite web page and the only available information is a copy of the label from the can. I contacted their customer service and explained that Atkins requires us to count a Splenda packet as a carb (even though their label says zero carbs) and could they please tell me how much Splenda was in a can, preferably in terms of teaspoons, tablespoons, or packets. They don't use Splenda in the packet or bulk form, they get the straight sucralose without carb padding, because they make it in large amounts. So there are no carbs from the Splenda. I think that's great, if I'm reading you correctly, that sucralose does not count as carbs but Splenda does. No. ABSOLUTELY NOT. Splenda is a brand name of sucralose. Unless they've licensed production of sucralose (not, to my knowledge), the two words are synonymous. If they _have_ licensed the production of sucralose, all Splenda is sucralose, but some sucralose is not Splenda. Sucralose is retailed under the Splenda brand as bulk powder, powder in packets, and tablets. It is also wholesaled to food manufacturers in a water solution (I _believe_, but do not know, that it is not wholesaled as pure powder). The retail bulk and packeted powder contain enough fluffed sugars to make volume measures roughly equivalent to cane sugar, ie, to make it the teaspoon-for-teaspoon equivalent of table sugar. The tablets contain a much smaller amount of bulking agent. The _wholesale_ product contains only sucralose. Any product label that reports "sucralose" is reporting pure, unadulterated, no other carbohydrate, sucralose. For reasons not made public, the manufacturer does not permit the retail sale of pure sucralose products. Some quantity of the wholesale product is occasionally available from black market channels (for which I, for one, am SUPREMELY grateful). Most of the labels say "sucralose (Splenda brand)". The labels must list the ingredients. Under the extremely unlikely circumstance that some manufacturer chose to waste money on the bulked Splenda for their product, they would be required to call out the added carbohydrates, either separately (water, maltodextrin, dextrose, natural and artificial flavorings, sucralose) or as the blend (water, Splenda brand sweetener (contains maltodextrin, dextrose, sucralose), natural and artificial flavors). If you don't see it on the label, it isn't there. Or the manufacturer is breaking the law, but since that would be for economic reasons, it would have nothing to do with the presence of bulked powdered sucralose. Martin (215/167/165 since 4/2003) This is a link to the product label for Diet Rite (one flavor): http://www.dietrite.com/ourStory/ins...n=redraspberry This is straight from the Splenda web page: "SPLENDAź No Calorie Sweetener is now available at your favorite store in two forms -- granular, which measures and pours like sugar, and packets, which you can use with your favorite beverages or fruit. " "The Sugar Origin of SPLENDAź Brand Sweetener SPLENDAź Brand Sweetener (sucralose) is made by a patented multi-step process that starts with cane sugar. Three hydrogen-oxygen groups on the sugar (sucrose) molecule are replaced by 3 tightly (covalently) bound chlorine atoms (Figure 1). The resulting sweetener, sucralose, is approximately 600 times sweeter than sugar and exceptionally stable. Sucralose is not broken down, so it has no calories, and the body does not recognize it as a carbohydrate. Studies show that sucralose has no effect on HbA1C, blood glucose or serum insulin levels. Additionally, sucralose will not interfere with glucose or HbA1C assays, so patients can monitor as usual. For consumer use, SPLENDAź Brand Sweetener (sucralose) is combined with common food ingredients also used in other no calorie sweeteners. These ingredients add volume and contribute a minimal quantity of carbohydrate (less than 1 gram) and calories (fewer than 5) per serving. Studies show that sucralose is non-caloric and does not raise blood glucose or serum insulin levels. The FDA considers products providing less than 5 calories to be appropriately labeled as no calorie products. " The product labels on the Splenda web page do not list ingredients for either form. The labels for both forms of Splenda say 1 carb. But, the Atkins book says to count a Splenda packet as a carb. So I'm still left not knowing when to count a carb for a product that contains sucralose. Remove SPAMDEFENSE in address to reply. |
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how much Splenda in Diet Rite?
Lyne burbled across the ether:
The product labels on the Splenda web page do not list ingredients for either form. The labels for both forms of Splenda say 1 carb. But, the Atkins book says to count a Splenda packet as a carb. So I'm still left not knowing when to count a carb for a product that contains sucralose. My bulk splenda reads sucarlose and maltodextrin. The label claims zero carbs per serving, but I know that a teaspoon of the boxed or bagged stuff comes out to .5gram (because of the information the Splenda website offers for baking-- namely 24 carbs per cup of bulk splenda, which works out to half a gram per teaspoon). The packets use dextrose, which also works out to 1 gram. When something is labeled 1g, that means it has more it is somewhere between .6 and .9 gram. (And US law allows anything .5 or lower--per serving that is-- to be counted as zero. This is what is known as hidden carbs.) Unless you are really anal, count anything .5 and lower as half, and anything between .6 and ..9 as one gram. The problem with figuring out when to count carbs where splenda is concerned is because the manufacurer does not distinguish between pure sucaralose that it sells to manufacturers to use in thier products (truely zero carbs) and the sucralose sold on the grocery shelves (the "consumer use" mentioned on its web page) which does have carbs in it because of the filler. Unlike the manufacturer of Nutrasweet for instance which uses the aforementioned name for processed foods containing just the sweetener, and Equal, which contains the sweetener--also measured in micro amounts-- and a filler in packets and spoonable versions for consumer use. The filler is added to make it spoonable. The amount of sucralose in either the packets or a spoonful of powder is something on the order of 5 to 10 hundredths per. You'd have to use a tweezer to get the correct amount if you used the 'pure' stuff in granular form. Since the manufacturer only sells the pure stuff to food makers (bummer, add your voice to the liquid splenda petition http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Splenda1/petition.html) that means that you should only count carbs when you add splenda powder or packet to your food or drink. Anything that comes with splenda already in it doesn't have any extra carbs from the splenda (including DaVinci's syrups which is one reason why many here prefer to use those instead of the powders. A teaspoon of the 'syrup' equals a teaspoon of the spoonable stuff, but without the carbs because the "filler" is water) because food makers use the carb free version. -- revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please I knew that there had to be aliens somewhere in the universe. What I did not know until now was that they read USENET.--Mark Hughes |
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how much Splenda in Diet Rite?
"Lyne" wrote in message
snip The product labels on the Splenda web page do not list ingredients for either form. The labels for both forms of Splenda say 1 carb. But, the Atkins book says to count a Splenda packet as a carb. So I'm still left not knowing when to count a carb for a product that contains sucralose. Lyne, It's not the Splenda/sucralose that has carbs. It's the fillers they use in the packets that have the carbs. Sucralose is so sweet that if they put it pure in packet form for consumer use there would only be a speck in each packet. That's why they use fillers. Manufacturers don't use Splenda packets to sweeten their products. They make products in large enough batches where they can measure the pure sucralose/Splenda and use it. No fillers, no carbs. At least no carbs from Splenda. -- Jeri |
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how much Splenda in Diet Rite?
Lyne wrote:
I think that's great, if I'm reading you correctly, that sucralose does not count as carbs but Splenda does. Most of the labels say "sucralose (Splenda brand)". I've lost about 20 lbs but I'm trying to stay on Induction for a long time. I'm one of those people who does better without too many choices. McNeil unfortunately created some confusion by calling both the undiluted sucralose and the bulked product Splenda. (With aspartame, the manufacturer originally called the added sweetener chemical Nutrasweet, and the bulked product Equal.) Food manufacturers are able to buy the undiluted powder or liquid sucralose to use in the large batches of food they make. Because Splenda is 600 times sweeter than sugar, there is only about one twentieth of a gram of sucralose in a can of diet soda, even if it did metabolize like sugar. The manufacturers say that it does not, and the scaremongerers claim that half of it is metabolized -- so at worst, you would have to drink about 40 cans of soda to get the effects of one gram carb. -- jamie ) "There's a seeker born every minute." |
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how much Splenda in Diet Rite?
The product labels on the Splenda web page do not list ingredients for
either form. The labels for both forms of Splenda say 1 carb. But, the Atkins book says to count a Splenda packet as a carb. So I'm still left not knowing when to count a carb for a product that contains sucralose. Geez, can you read? It's been explained several times now, including in the excerpt you just quoted. It's the fillers in the consumer versions of Splenda that turn it into a powder that contain the small amount of carbs. Diet Rite uses the liquid product, which has zero carbs. |
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