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I think I'm addicted to food and alergic to exercising!



 
 
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Old July 30th, 2007, 11:41 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Aaron Baugher
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monalza2779 writes:

I think I'm addicted to food - correction - carbs and junk food.
I've never been a good eater my whole life. I hate most vegetables!
I really do wish I liked veggies and liked healthy food.


You sound like a troll, but someone who's honestly having this problem
might read this thread, so here goes.

You don't have to eat a single vegetable to eat low-carb. Really.
Many low-carbers and low-carb plans encourage you to eat vegetables
because they're good for you, and because the likelihood of long-term
success is partly proportionally to the variety of foods you eat, but
they're not absolutely required.

You can low-carb just fine on meat, eggs, cheese, yogurt, nuts,
berries, oils, butter, spices, and possibly a few nutritional
supplements like potassium. Again, this may not be sustainable in the
long run due to boredom (although the vast majority of your ancestors
lived with it), but it is a low-carb diet that can work if you stick
to it.

Has there been a study done about people's taste buds being
different?? cause I don't get it! healthy food tastes gross! is it
just me and the way I taste things? or is that really how they
taste??


Who knows? Taste is an awfully subjective thing. I like almost all
vegetables, but green peppers and alfalfa sprouts make me gag. Some
think that a strong dislike for a food may be a sign of an allergy to
it. I don't know if that's the case, and it's unlikely that you're
allergic to *all* vegetables, but if they honestly do taste horrible
to you, I'm not going to tell you to force yourself to gag them down.

However, you said you hate *most* vegetables, which means there are
some you *don't* hate, right? So feel free to eat lots of those.
Also, look for alternatives, because I guarantee there are many
vegetables you've never tried. Most Americans have only encountered a
dozen or so vegetables, and there are dozens or hundreds more out
there, and numerous varieties of many of them. I just recently
discovered jicama, for example, a root vegetable from South and Latin
America that tastes more like an apple than a vegetable and can be
grilled, fried, or eaten raw.

Also, once you've been low-carbing for a while, it's worth it to
re-try some vegetables you didn't like before, especially ones that
seems tasteless or bitter. Many people find that once they stop
bombarding their systems with sugar, their taste-buds become much more
sensitive to sweetness and other flavors. I used to think cauliflower
was just a bland carrier for cheese sauce, but now I know it has a lot
of flavor of its own just roasted.

Anyway, if you're serious about getting this under control, the first
step is to forget everything you thought you knew about food, diets,
nutrition, and health. Seriously. Almost everything you've been
taught is wrong, and you'll relearn the few tidbits that might have
been right anyway. Then pick up a few low-carb books -- they're all
available cheaply at used book stores and libraries -- and *read them*
cover to cover. Pick the one that makes the most sense to you and
follow it, making adjustments if necessary along the way using your
own judgment. And of course, hang out here for inspiration, recipes,
and answers to your questions.



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Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz
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Old July 31st, 2007, 01:29 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
monalza2779
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thank you very much.

also, I don't mean to cause controversy if that's what you mean when
you say "troll". I'm a little confused as to why you guys think I am
that? I'm sorry but I need to get those things off my chest because
they have been building up inside me for quite a while. And as far as
"troll" meaning geek, loser or something, I am far from that, and I am
not some hidious thing that hides under bridges lol

i've really gotten negative responses from people when I post
things...it's extremely discouraging. I thought the point of these
groups where for support and help and friendship? Am I wrong?

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Old July 31st, 2007, 03:21 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Roger Zoul
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monalza2779 wrote:
:: thank you very much.
::
:: also, I don't mean to cause controversy if that's what you mean when
:: you say "troll". I'm a little confused as to why you guys think I am
:: that? I'm sorry but I need to get those things off my chest because
:: they have been building up inside me for quite a while. And as far
:: as "troll" meaning geek, loser or something, I am far from that, and
:: I am not some hidious thing that hides under bridges lol
::
:: i've really gotten negative responses from people when I post
:: things...it's extremely discouraging. I thought the point of these
:: groups where for support and help and friendship? Am I wrong?

Well, if you keep posting here with sincere questions and comments people
will quit wondering if you're a troll. We do get lots of trolls here --
people who post comments only to incite the regulars here.

Of course, many of us oldtimers were indeed addicted to carbs and allergic
to exercise at one time or another, so if you're for real, you'll find
plenty of people here who understand where you're coming from.


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Old July 31st, 2007, 03:54 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
monalza2779
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On Jul 30, 10:21 pm, "Roger Zoul" wrote:
monalza2779 wrote:

:: thank you very much.
::
:: also, I don't mean to cause controversy if that's what you mean when
:: you say "troll". I'm a little confused as to why you guys think I am
:: that? I'm sorry but I need to get those things off my chest because
:: they have been building up inside me for quite a while. And as far
:: as "troll" meaning geek, loser or something, I am far from that, and
:: I am not some hidious thing that hides under bridges lol
::
:: i've really gotten negative responses from people when I post
:: things...it's extremely discouraging. I thought the point of these
:: groups where for support and help and friendship? Am I wrong?

Well, if you keep posting here with sincere questions and comments people
will quit wondering if you're a troll. We do get lots of trolls here --
people who post comments only to incite the regulars here.

Of course, many of us oldtimers were indeed addicted to carbs and allergic
to exercise at one time or another, so if you're for real, you'll find
plenty of people here who understand where you're coming from.


thank you. I'm glad to see that there are good people here. I am
sincere. I want to change my life and i'm hoping that people can
help.

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Old July 31st, 2007, 03:28 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Roger Zoul
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monalza2779 wrote:
:: i'm not into sugary foods..for me it's the salt. chips are my
:: weakness...they are my comfort food. any time i get stressed,
:: depressed, sad or lonely I go for chips. and then i feel gross and
:: sick and guilty after i eat them.

In the body, there isn't much differece between sugarly foods and chips.
They both break down to glucose and result in wild blood sugar swings that
drive you to keep eating.

Why don't you make up a list of foods you like and don't like and post it
here?


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Old July 31st, 2007, 05:05 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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monalza2779 wrote:

i'm not into sugary foods..for me it's the salt. chips are my
weakness...


High carb chips, but it's the salt not the carbs. Sure thing,
which is why when you get really tempted you eat salt
without the chips. That's how to tell it's the salt in the
chips not the carbs in the chips.

they are my comfort food. any time i get stressed,
depressed, sad or lonely I go for chips. and then i feel
gross and sick and guilty after i eat them.


Classic addiction pattern. The way out of an addiction is
to abstain from the trigger. Conveniently there's a program
for that. It's called the Atkins Nutritional Approach.

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Old July 31st, 2007, 05:12 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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monalza2779 wrote:

I heard the Atkin's diet is really bad for you. no?


This is the primary reason I think you're probably a troll.
Go to a low carb support group and assert that the most
popular low carb plan is "really bad for you". It is at very
least a clear-cut sign that you haven't done any
homework at all and are therefore unlikely to do any in
the future. Like anything worth doing, low carb comes
with homework.

If you're going to call Atkins "really bad for you", why
post at all unless you're a troll?

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Old July 31st, 2007, 05:40 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
monalza2779
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On Jul 31, 12:12 pm, Doug Freyburger wrote:
monalza2779 wrote:

I heard the Atkin's diet is really bad for you. no?


This is the primary reason I think you're probably a troll.
Go to a low carb support group and assert that the most
popular low carb plan is "really bad for you". It is at very
least a clear-cut sign that you haven't done any
homework at all and are therefore unlikely to do any in
the future. Like anything worth doing, low carb comes
with homework.

If you're going to call Atkins "really bad for you", why
post at all unless you're a troll?


oh sorry...i heard that through friends and i use to work at a gym and
they told me that it wasn't good..i didn't realize i was offending
people with that comment. i honestly didn't know and that's just what
i heard and was clarifing so. are there not other low carb diets out
there? i mean for people to get THAT offended by my "stupidity" is
ridiculous. I appologize for my ignorance.

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Old July 31st, 2007, 05:42 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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monalza2779 wrote:

I think I'm addicted to food - correction - carbs and junk food.


Atkins is specifically designed to handle this, but it will be
necessary to follow the directions as they are in the book
without skipping the parts you disagree with.

I've never been a good eater my whole life.


Are you willing to work to change this?

I hate most vegetables!


Humans can and do dislike individual veggies. I despise
bell peppers and parsnips. Aaron Baugher also posted
that he dislikes two types.

But humans can't dislike all types of veggies. We're evolved
to eat a mixture of meat and veggies.

So this is a mental issue. Think of it as a part of growing
up. Adults eat and like their veggies. Even if you're already
old enough to be grown up in most aspects of your life,
here's one more to handle.

I really do wish I liked veggies and liked healthy food.


Do you wish it or are you willing to take action towards
making it a reality?

Has there been
a study done about people's taste buds being different??


Would you use such a study as a reason to not move
forward? Wanna bet there are studies that say that people
who grow up end up liking veggies?

healthy food tastes gross!


Mental job number one. Begin to change your thinking
about veggies.

I have to choke it down
half the time and it's really an awful experience.


Mental job number two. Stop it from being a battle.
Fight yourself on this and it is a losing battle. Don't force
past your current tastes. *Decide* to change your current
tastes. *Act* on that decision.

The difference is how long you work at it, how you
approach the issue. In your internal voice tell yourself
you look forward to eating one particular type of yummy
vegetable cooked some new way. Once you look forward
to it, then try it. In the meantime there have to be one or
two that you already don't mind so have them as staples.

I feel so
guilty and hopeless when this happens and I don't know what to do. I
feel hopeless. I feel I have no control.


Decision leads to thought. Thought leads to habit of thought.
Habit of thought leads to emotion. Emotion leads to tastes.
Force past that gradual process and you're defeating yourself.
Work the process from its beginning and you are steering your
own destiny.

or am I a lost cause?


If you decide to be a lost cause, you are. If you decline to do
your homework, you are. (Read the Atkins book cover to start
of recipes like it is a college textbook, scan the recipe section).
If you decide you have control over your own destiny, then you
have started.

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Old July 31st, 2007, 05:56 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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And try some recipes. Part of our lunch today was sliced baby cucumbers
with chopped Vidalia onions dressed with sour cream, a bit of salt and a lot
of black pepper. How could anyone not like that?

Doug Freyburger wrote:
|
| Mental job number two. Stop it from being a battle.
| Fight yourself on this and it is a losing battle. Don't force
| past your current tastes. *Decide* to change your current
| tastes. *Act* on that decision.
|
| The difference is how long you work at it, how you
| approach the issue. In your internal voice tell yourself
| you look forward to eating one particular type of yummy
| vegetable cooked some new way. Once you look forward
| to it, then try it. In the meantime there have to be one or
| two that you already don't mind so have them as staples.
|
|| I feel so
|| guilty and hopeless when this happens and I don't know what to do. I
|| feel hopeless. I feel I have no control.
|
| Decision leads to thought. Thought leads to habit of thought.
| Habit of thought leads to emotion. Emotion leads to tastes.
| Force past that gradual process and you're defeating yourself.
| Work the process from its beginning and you are steering your
| own destiny.
|
|| or am I a lost cause?
|
| If you decide to be a lost cause, you are. If you decline to do
| your homework, you are. (Read the Atkins book cover to start
| of recipes like it is a college textbook, scan the recipe section).
| If you decide you have control over your own destiny, then you
| have started.


 




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