Effects of occasional breaks of LCing?

SenorBeef wrote:

No, I gained it back because I didn't care not to.
Everyone is
implanted with this romantic idea that when you lose all
your weight
you'll feel better about yourself, gain confidence, have a
happier
life, and all that. I didn't. It didn't make much of a
difference in
my life, and given the huge amount of effort needed to
maintain that,
it wasn't worth it.

However, I've gotten fat enough that it interferes with my
life,
doing stuff I want to do, and so that's sufficient
motivation to lose
some back.

It wasn't due to weakness - I was expecting to feel
better, be
happier, and all that BS, and didn't, so it wasn't worth
the effort.


SenorBeef,

I don't have but a couple minutes for a very quick post, I
hope I can do my thoughts justice.

Please accept that folks here have different methods and
styles of interaction. Some are outright hostile.

My suggestion to you is that you not lose focus on why you
posted here to begin with, instead of getting mired in a
flame war. Please, you will do yourself good, at least in
my opinion.

At least one person posted here that they questioned your
200 pound weight loss in 9 months. I will accept at face
value that you did accomplish this. You need to understand
and accept that such an amount of weight lost in such a
short period is astounding, hence the skepticism you will
encounter.

I'm going to assume that you came here not to badger or be
badgered, flame or be flamed. Focus back on your intent and
purpose and lets move on from there. Your most pertinent
question was asking how to get back on track losing weight?
You actually stated words to the effect of how will you get
back into the low-carb groove and become motivated again,
but implicit in that is the assumption that eating low-carb
will work for you again for losing weight. Personally, I
believe that it will, we just need to work through your
motivations.

As I know nothing about you I cannot possibly know how much
of the following might apply to you. I offer this as how I
got myself back on track and lost the weight I needed to
lose so desperately. I had been on the yo-yo diet plan for
years, often losing substantial amounts of weight, only to
lose control somewhere along the way and gain it all back,
and then some. Three things changed between all those times
and now: 1) I discovered low-carb, 2) I decided that I
wanted to live and enjoy my life and the lives of my
children and 3) From the outset of this weight loss effort
this time I have not solely been focused on losing the
weight so much as I have been focused on making the
necessary lifestyle changes to keep it off for the long
haul.

Discovering low-carb, and coming to believe in it, was the
enabler that has allowed me the tools to break out of what
had become a vicious spiral. It is a tool, albeit a
powerful one, but at the end of the day just a tool.

Item 2 was my motivator, and I get motivations every day in
hugs and kisses, and thanks for just doing the most simple
things with and for my children.

Item 3 is not a trite statement. I'm a bit less than a year
into this so it is still too early to truly know if I will
have long term success as only time will prove that. But,
given my success to this point, my motivations and the way I
feel about life in general, I have supreme confidence that I
am now off the yo-yo diet path and I will never be
overweight again. This does not mean that I don't have a
life long struggle ahead of me as I know that I do. At this
point I have no reason to change from a low-carb way of
eating, it is working, I feel good, and by every objective
measure that has been thrown at me I am healthier now than I
was 10 months ago. My point here is that you, not me or
anybody else here, but you have to decide that you are going
to get started with losing and controlling your weight. In
my opinion, for now the speed with which you lose weight is
not going to be relevant as your progress short term
progress is going to be measured by your motivation to just
get started. My advice: Just get started. If you want to
do this then do this. If you need to adjust your dieting
methodology every week to keep yourself motivated, and the
adjustments move you to your goals, then make the
adjustments.

I am out of time for now and don't have time to complete my
thoughts, or even edit what I have written down here so
hastily. Please accept that I am sincerely trying to assist
you, not judge you, deride you, flame your or hurt you in
any way. If you read any of what I have written here and
take it in the negative, you are not reading it in the
spirit in which it is written.

That stated, I look forward to continued discourse with you
as you move into your successful and long term weight loss
program. I'm not expert at this so I'm still learning too,
but we can learn together.

--
JJ.
275/178/175 - as of July 2, 2004
Atkins since Sep 1, 2003
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jjsmythe/my_photos
1, 2, 3...93, 94, 95, 96, 97...almost there

"SenorBeef" wrote in message
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See my original post. 200 pounds in 9 months. No deviations whatsoever
from
low carbing. Hours of excercise every day. Call that weak.


Ok.

And furthermore, you've gained over 200 pounds since then.

Even weaker.

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 20:51:13 GMT, "SenorBeef"
wrote:

What have I said that has indicated weakness or stupidity?

Absolutley nothing. Your previous success was awesome, and I know you can
do it again. You sound *Very* motivated.

Wishing you all the best,
Carol
--
227/214.5/150 (official weigh-in day: Thursday)
July Challenge Goal: 209 (5.5 pounds)
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001

My own experience is that if I eat 1 carb meal a week late in the day, I'm
ok. If I have a bagel or roll for breakfast - this triggers a week long
binge. Maybe some people can handle it, I certainly can't.

Eva

"SenorBeef" wrote in message
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4 years ago I lost around 180-200 pounds low carbing in about 9 months...
since then I've gained most of it back but that was due to not caring
about
being fat more than anything else.

Anyway, I've become so fat again that it's a pain in the ass to do some
common stuff, so I'm going to lose some of the weight. However, this time
around, I don't have 1/5th the motivation I did last time for maintaining
a
string LC diet.

As a way to extend my motivation, I was considering having every third
weekend "off" - eating whatever I want for one weekend, every third week.
It
would help me get cravings out of my system, enjoy myself occasionally,
and
just generally help with motivation.

What are the metabolic effects of this? I know it takes a few days to go
from a high carb diet to going into ketosis - but once your body is used
to
a low carb metabolism, does it take as long to kick back over after a 2
day
carb binge?

That is.. if you're starting low carbing from scratch, it might take you
4-5
days to really start ketosis, but I was wondering.. if you're in ketosis,
and you carb binge for 2 days, and then you go back to low carbing - will
your body return to ketosis sooner? Will your body really switch over
completely to a "high carb" type metabolism just from 2 days of eating
high
carb food?

Basically, if I did this, would I be starting from scratch every 3 weeks,
or
would my body generally stay in a low-carb mode, making the transitions
smoother?

Does anyone have experience doing anything like this? Does it severely
impede weight loss? Any experiences or knowledge you have will be helpful,
thanks.

Did you feel better physically when you lost weight?

Yes. That was the only benefit - I didn't have a boost to confidence, self
esteem, feel better about myself, or any of that crap. There were other
factors motivating me at the time, too, that don't apply now. The only
motive I have no is that I've become too fat again to really be comfortable
doing things that I want to do, physically. That's about 1/10th the
motivation I had overall last time.


However, I've gotten fat enough that it interferes with my life, doing
stuff
I want to do, and so that's sufficient motivation to lose some back.

It wasn't due to weakness - I was expecting to feel better, be happier,
and
all that BS, and didn't, so it wasn't worth the effort.

That is weakness, actually, and a rationalization.


How is it a rationalization? I put all that effort in for specific benefits
I hoped to receive - the benefits never came, and so the effort wasn't worth
it. I'm not stretching things to make a decision, I made a decision based on
how things were.

Cop out.

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
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"SenorBeef" wrote in message
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What have I said that has indicated weakness or stupidity?


Everything.

Thanks, I appreciate your support. I'm not getting distracted from why I
came here in the first place, it doesn't really bother me too much to get
caught up in arguments.

And furthermore, you've gained over 200 pounds since then.

Even weaker.



Aren't you presumptuous? No, I haven't gained all of it back. I have gained
enough of it back for it to be problematic, though.

Most of the foods people make staples of when LCing. I can't stand any
seafood, poultry (well, I can eat chicken but I don't like it), steak, eggs
agitate my stomach, not a big fan of most green vegetables, sausage, most
lunchmeats...

It leaves my diet pretty repetitive and limited.

"FOB" wrote in message
gy.com...
Such as?

In news:dKEFc.18094$a24.3048@attbi_s03,
SenorBeef stated
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|| LC should be a way of life.
||
||
|
| Yeah, I know how that goes. Not practical enough for me, there are
| way too many low carb staple foods that I can't stomach.

Weak.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW


"SenorBeef" wrote in message
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Most of the foods people make staples of when LCing. I can't stand any
seafood, poultry (well, I can eat chicken but I don't like it), steak,
eggs
agitate my stomach, not a big fan of most green vegetables, sausage, most
lunchmeats...

It leaves my diet pretty repetitive and limited.

"FOB" wrote in message
gy.com...
Such as?

In news:dKEFc.18094$a24.3048@attbi_s03,
SenorBeef stated
||
|| LC should be a way of life.
||
||
|
| Yeah, I know how that goes. Not practical enough for me, there are
| way too many low carb staple foods that I can't stomach.