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Old April 5th, 2011, 07:59 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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FOB (removethis) wrote:

There's a lot of positive talk about coconut oil, it has a nice tolerance
for high temperatures. In cold weather it is a solid, in the summer it will
be a liquid if left out of the fridge. I find it much less obvious in
things than the taste of olive oil. I have been using it in cooking.


Expensive in the specialty aisle. Cheap in the Hispanic aisle. There's
likely to be some difference other than a factor of 3 in price.

Paprika, there are different kinds of paprika, hot and not hot. I don't
doubt the remarks about differences in tasting it but there also is a
difference in typesl.


To me the difference between the hot and the mild is trivial. To
someone who can detect that type of heat the different between the hot
and the mild is not trivial.
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Old April 5th, 2011, 08:01 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Marengo wrote:

I have the "asparagus gene"too. To me it has a rich flavor and when
I eat asparagus it makes my urine smell very strong. People used to
tell me I was crazy when I'd mention it, and it was only a few years
ago that I found out it was genetic and that only a certain % of the
population has it.


Yeah. At the men's room of some public place like a cinema it's obvious
from a distance who has had asparagus and who has not. Not a good time
to mention that I can smell it!
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Old April 5th, 2011, 10:36 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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In article ,
Hueyduck wrote:

Billy a répondu :
In article ,



Just a wild guess, Huey, but the proteins are amino acids that contain
NH3 (ammonia) groups. These might be dislodged by the carbonate (CO3).

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True.
And since proteins in eggs are in the white part, I might try and
withdraw a whit or two. Less baking powder too. And probably, I will add
a tablespoon of gluten to make up for the egg whites ( a bit like you
took back one egg and added wheat protein).
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Below, Bill O'Meally suggests replacing some of the flax meal with wheat
protein, but ostensibly flax seeds (meal) are used to raise omega-3
proteins. (If it is for lowering cholesterol you'd be better off with
oat bran or psyllium seed husks.)

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Well, it's fatty, it's full of omega 3, and full of fiber.
Can't be bad for cholesterol ratio, right? I don't aim for a particular
benefit, though. Only to have a recipie that fits a LC diet.
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It is presumed that hunter-gatherers
had a 1 to 1 ratio of omega-3s and omega-6s, whereas today it is about 1
to 10. This probably isn't a big deal because the oxygen and the heat
will destroy most of the omega-3s anyway.

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Surprisingly, this is not true at all.
He
http://www.flaxhealth.com/storage.htm

Well, it's on the "golden valley" site. True. But they quote sources and
scientific ones too.
But I must admit I was quite surprised. to make it short:
"baking ha(s) no effect on the bioavailability of flaxseed fatty acids."
Great, right?


Good catch, thanks.
http://journals.lww.com/cardiovascul...11000/Flaxseed
_and_Cardiovascular_Health.3.aspx


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Old April 6th, 2011, 12:43 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On 2011-04-05 08:40:01 -0500, Hueyduck said:

Bill O'Meally a écrit :
On 2011-04-05 05:30:52 -0500, Hueyduck said:




I've never noticed that particular aroma, but perhaps that is because I
modified the recipe almost from the start.

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I don't think this is related.
I get the same flavour whenever I have too much egg along with too much
baking powder. But here, they are quite essential, so I don't know wich
one to cut.


I'm not sure. It may be related because I use fewer (well, one fewer)
eggs in my version.

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I did not like the texture the first time I made it, so I substituted
some wheat protein isolate for some of the flax meal. This added
protein allowed me to cut back on the eggs. Here's the recipe with my
changes.

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Isn't wheat protein simply... gluten? )


I think that gluten is probably the predominant, but just one of many
proteins found in the grain. It says on the WPI label that it is, "more
refined with a higher protein concentration" than Vital Wheat Gluten.

In that case, I have some, and I might try your recipie.


I suspect that using you wheat gluten would work just fine. :-)

snip


• 1-2 Tablespoons sugar equivalent from artificial sweetener [Use
liquid Splenda]


did you find that this ingredient was really usefull? I remember the
first time I tried this recipie, I did'nt like the sweetness that much.


Haven't tried it without it. I have not really noticed the sweetness
though. It really is a miniscule amount come to think of it, and I
suspect the recipe would not suffer from leaving it out.


• 1/3 cup oil


out of curiosity, wich one do you use?
I tried refined canola (not the raw organic stuff, wich couldnot be
cooked, but the refined canola oil, wich supports 180°C/350°F without a
problem.


I generally use canola.


I think I'll try olive oil and, in another batch, "cleared" butter (I
don't know the proper english term: I want to talk about the butter
from wich the protein and water has been removed)

Thanks for your answer.


My pleasure. :-)

Just to note. I tried this recipe as a loaf the last time I baked it.
Despite the gluten in the recipe, it did not work too well in that it
still kinda wanted to flatten out.

By the way, sorry to the group about the messed-up text. It seems
there's a unicode issue from when I took my recipe, which happened to
be in rich-text, and converted it to plain-text for posting.

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Old April 7th, 2011, 04:27 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Hueyduck a écrit :


I think many of you make the "flax meal foccacia bread".
(...)
I'm not so found of the ammonia smell.


Just to say:

I noticed that the said bread I made a few days ago entirely losy its
ammonia scent.
As the murphy's law requires, I always decide to make the biggest
batches of food when I'm about to mess up the recipie. So , this time I
had 2 big flax foccacia with ammonia smell in the fridge.
It spent 2 days in the fridge and then I got bored of the smell in the
fridge and deep froze whatever was left.

Today, I defrosted one piece for lunch (note how stubborn I can be). I
was expecting a rotted dead fish vapor to escape from the microwave, but
instead: nothing. Not a single trace of the bad smell.
I stuffed my nose in the foccacia: nada.

Now I have to experience mo
Dis the smell go away with the help of:
- time?
- time and deep freezing?
- time+freezing+microwave?


))


Huey
 




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