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Old November 30th, 2003, 07:44 AM
nobody
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Hey,

I wanna go on a new hardcore lifestyle change of a new diet and lots of
exercise. I just to be really healthy and fit. Not to lose
weight, but just to be healthy. I do need to lose a bit of a weight, but
that should come with my lifestyle change. I really don't know where to
start. I do i mean, but i don't know what's good for me, don't know what
are the dietry terms mean, etc. Can anyone point in the right direction?
I want to cut out meat. I could just live on fish, vegies and fruit. Is
this good for me? I haven't got a clue! But it makes me feel good when i
eat like this. Just makes me feel very refreshed and natural. It's a
great feeling!

Thanks!
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Old November 30th, 2003, 03:28 PM
Patricia Heil
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Don't do anything drastic. If you do, you will go into
resentment mode and stop doing what you're doing.

So number one, start taking a walk every day. It doesn't have
to be a long one. In two weeks, increase the distance. Then
every other week, increase the distance again. When you can
walk half an hour straight without discomfort, get back to us.

Number two, make sure you're getting your sleep at night. The
walking will help. Any form of exercise will help overcome
insomnia if you get that -- I am a living example. The problem with
not getting enough sleep is that your system realizes it's low
on energy and tries to make up for it by giving you cravings.
It also means you have less willpower to keep on with what you're
doing. Finally, sleep apnea seems to correlate highly with
overweight. So if you are having sleeping problems, and you snore,
you may want to get evaluated for sleep apnea.

Number three, make a list of everything you eat during the next
two weeks. Beverages too. The only way to know how to fix your
eating habits is to know what they are. By making yourself write
everything down, you can't ignore certain things you are putting
in your body. Until they try this, some people think their eating
habits are OK or "I don't really eat that much."

nobody wrote:

Hey,

I wanna go on a new hardcore lifestyle change of a new diet and lots of
exercise. I just to be really healthy and fit. Not to lose
weight, but just to be healthy. I do need to lose a bit of a weight, but
that should come with my lifestyle change. I really don't know where to
start. I do i mean, but i don't know what's good for me, don't know what
are the dietry terms mean, etc. Can anyone point in the right direction?
I want to cut out meat. I could just live on fish, vegies and fruit. Is
this good for me? I haven't got a clue! But it makes me feel good when i
eat like this. Just makes me feel very refreshed and natural. It's a
great feeling!

Thanks!

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Old November 30th, 2003, 03:45 PM
nobody
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Hi Patrica!

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 00:58:24 +1030, Patricia Heil wrote:

Don't do anything drastic. If you do, you will go into resentment mode
and stop doing what you're doing.

So number one, start taking a walk every day. It doesn't have to be a
long one. In two weeks, increase the distance. Then every other week,
increase the distance again. When you can walk half an hour straight
without discomfort, get back to us.


Ok i will start this tomorrow.

Number two, make sure you're getting your sleep at night. The walking
will help. Any form of exercise will help overcome insomnia if you get
that -- I am a living example. The problem with not getting enough
sleep is that your system realizes it's low on energy and tries to make
up for it by giving you cravings. It also means you have less willpower
to keep on with what you're doing. Finally, sleep apnea seems to
correlate highly with overweight. So if you are having sleeping
problems, and you snore, you may want to get evaluated for sleep apnea.


Yeah, ok, says me typing this at 1:15am

Number three, make a list of everything you eat during the next two
weeks. Beverages too. The only way to know how to fix your eating
habits is to know what they are. By making yourself write everything
down, you can't ignore certain things you are putting in your body.
Until they try this, some people think their eating habits are OK or "I
don't really eat that much."


Ok i'll start this as soon as i eat next. Should i just post it here in a
couple of weeks?

Cheers
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Old November 30th, 2003, 04:41 PM
JK
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"nobody" wrote in message
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Hey,

I wanna go on a new hardcore lifestyle change of a new diet and lots of
exercise. I just to be really healthy and fit. Not to lose
weight, but just to be healthy. I do need to lose a bit of a weight, but
that should come with my lifestyle change. I really don't know where to
start. I do i mean, but i don't know what's good for me, don't know what
are the dietry terms mean, etc. Can anyone point in the right direction?
I want to cut out meat. I could just live on fish, vegies and fruit. Is
this good for me? I haven't got a clue! But it makes me feel good when i
eat like this. Just makes me feel very refreshed and natural. It's a
great feeling!

Thanks!

There's a website called fitday.com where you can put in what you're eating
each day. That would give you a good idea if how you want to eat is giving
you all the nutrients you need. Be careful if you're eating lots of fish.
Some fish is high in mercury and you can overdo it easily. If you start
eating fish every day, then you might want to get your mercury level in your
blood tested every few months to make sure it's not getting too high.



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Old November 30th, 2003, 04:55 PM
Patricia Heil
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Hi
the food diary is really for you. What you could do, however,
is tell us "I find I drink (whatever, coffee, tea, soda, alcohol)
about X times a day/week" or "I have been eating (pick anything
you eat a lot of) Y times a day/week." Then maybe we can make
suggestions.

This diary will be important if you get to a doctor who refers you to a
registered dietitian. A good RD will look into your eating/drinking
patterns.
S/he will help you change your recipes to be healthier, or help
you find ways of keeping fast non-perishable healthy food in the
house if you're on the run all the time. My sister used to check
into the stores local to her clients (she's a full time mother
now, that's why I say used to) to see if they could get the things
she wanted them to eat. It's no use telling people to eat
wild salmon instead of farmed (I forget who used to tell people
that) if none of the chain grocery stores carry wild salmon or
it costs 5 times as much as farmed.

Most of all, make changes you can be happy with the
rest of your life. The problem with ALL the specialty and
commercial diet programs is that people think of them as a
temporary fix. Then they wonder why the weight comes back on.


nobody wrote:

Hi Patrica!

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 00:58:24 +1030, Patricia Heil wrote:

Don't do anything drastic. If you do, you will go into resentment mode
and stop doing what you're doing.

So number one, start taking a walk every day. It doesn't have to be a
long one. In two weeks, increase the distance. Then every other week,
increase the distance again. When you can walk half an hour straight
without discomfort, get back to us.


Ok i will start this tomorrow.

Number two, make sure you're getting your sleep at night. The walking
will help. Any form of exercise will help overcome insomnia if you get
that -- I am a living example. The problem with not getting enough
sleep is that your system realizes it's low on energy and tries to make
up for it by giving you cravings. It also means you have less willpower
to keep on with what you're doing. Finally, sleep apnea seems to
correlate highly with overweight. So if you are having sleeping
problems, and you snore, you may want to get evaluated for sleep apnea.


Yeah, ok, says me typing this at 1:15am

Number three, make a list of everything you eat during the next two
weeks. Beverages too. The only way to know how to fix your eating
habits is to know what they are. By making yourself write everything
down, you can't ignore certain things you are putting in your body.
Until they try this, some people think their eating habits are OK or "I
don't really eat that much."


Ok i'll start this as soon as i eat next. Should i just post it here in a
couple of weeks?

Cheers

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Old November 30th, 2003, 06:32 PM
Susan Jones-Anderson
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IMO, you will fail at this type of strategy. Sorry for being so direct
but you did ask.
I have found that going "hardcore" is not the way to do it. I started
out by simply eliminating the junk(sugars, un-needed carbs) watching my
portions, upping my water intake and getting up and walking everyday too
more weight off me than "dieting" - I am not saying that dieting wont
work because that's also part of my WOE now that I am further into my
weightloss. I monitor my nutrition intake as well as simply cutting the
junk - so it's a combo of things. So If I were you and I had a
substantial amt of weight to shed(I don't know your stats currently) I
would..

A.) Buy a food scale and monitor your actual servings of food. I found
that I was eating WAY WAY too much per meal. Ask yourself about 1/3
through your meal (any given meal) "Am I still hungry?" if you answer
honestly, STOP. Put the fork down. You will find you eat alot less. It
is a meal by meal struggle sometimes to be honest that way with
yourself.
B.) sign up at http://www.fitday.com and log everything you eat per day
and start knowing exactly what you're putting in your body. Make subtle
changes to improve your nutrition.
C.) Get off your duff and MOVE, I went from walking at a moderate pace 1
mile a day to a brisk 6 miles per evening everyday in less than 6
months. Yes.. that's a steady upbuild to that. I didn't get fat
overnight and I don't expect to lose it overnight either. It all depends
on your mindset. Ask yourself if you are wanting to "diet" or change
your life? There is a huge difference in the two. As you feel better
with the nutritional changes you make and the exercise you get. You will
likely want to take on more exercise.. for me it was my cycle and free
weights. Everyone has their own thing.

Just my thoughts.

Susan
260/202/160

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smoked, $616.05 saved, 1wweek 4day 13:30hours of my life saved


"nobody" wrote in message
news
Hey,

I wanna go on a new hardcore lifestyle change of a new diet and lots
of
exercise. I just to be really healthy and fit. Not to lose
weight, but just to be healthy. I do need to lose a bit of a weight,

but
that should come with my lifestyle change. I really don't know where

to
start. I do i mean, but i don't know what's good for me, don't know

what
are the dietry terms mean, etc. Can anyone point in the right

direction?
I want to cut out meat. I could just live on fish, vegies and fruit.

Is
this good for me? I haven't got a clue! But it makes me feel good when

i
eat like this. Just makes me feel very refreshed and natural. It's a
great feeling!

Thanks!



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Old November 30th, 2003, 10:17 PM
Brad Sheppard
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Hey nobody it sounds like you want the same "tough love" diet and
exercise program I'm on. The best advice for healthy eating comes
from the Harvard School of Public Health:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritio.../pyramids.html In a
nutshell, eat good carbs, good fats, good proteins - and drink
moderately. Good carbs - whole grains, fruits and veggies (but no
white potatoes). Good fats - from oily fish, olive oil, unsaturated
oils. Good proteins - fish, or veggie source. Also get one hour of
exercise daily. Especially good foods: salmon, herring, olive oil,
oatmeal, whole wheat, blueberries, other berries, spinach, broccoli,
etc. Dark beers - like Guinness. Green tea. Nuts - esp walnuts and
almonds. Worst meal - fatty red meat with french fries.

nobody wrote in message .. .
Hey,

I wanna go on a new hardcore lifestyle change of a new diet and lots of
exercise. I just to be really healthy and fit. Not to lose
weight, but just to be healthy. I do need to lose a bit of a weight, but
that should come with my lifestyle change. I really don't know where to
start. I do i mean, but i don't know what's good for me, don't know what
are the dietry terms mean, etc. Can anyone point in the right direction?
I want to cut out meat. I could just live on fish, vegies and fruit. Is
this good for me? I haven't got a clue! But it makes me feel good when i
eat like this. Just makes me feel very refreshed and natural. It's a
great feeling!

Thanks!

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Old December 1st, 2003, 01:05 PM
bjg
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:14:50 +1030, nobody wrote:

Thanks for the support everyone.

Here's my intake for my first day of measuring:

source grams cals %total
Total: 3089
Fat: 135 1215 41%
Sat: 67 602 20%
Poly: 7 67 2%
Mono: 45 408 14%
Carbs: 300 1055 35%
Fiber: 36 0 0%
Protein: 181 724 24%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

I never drink alcohol so can't see that ever having a value, unless it's
in a certain food.

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...wner=bgrossman

There's more details. What do i need to cut down on etc? I probably
shouldn't have eaten the 2nd piece of steak, and shouldn't have drunk the
can of Coke, and also probably not so much cheese, but didn't want it to
go to waste.

I weigh 97kg (213 lbs), and am about 5' 10" - 6'. I'm in the 'severe
overweight' category going by my the BMI. I didn't think i was that fat!

I have set a goal to get down to 75kg (165 lbs) by February. Is this
possible or am i going at it too fast here?

Thanks in advance.

By the way i was 'nobody', i just changed my nick cause i will hang
around here.
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Old December 1st, 2003, 05:19 PM
Chrys
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"bjg" wrote in message
news
http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...wner=bgrossman

There's more details. What do i need to cut down on etc? I probably
shouldn't have eaten the 2nd piece of steak, and shouldn't have drunk
the
can of Coke, and also probably not so much cheese, but didn't want it to
go to waste.

I weigh 97kg (213 lbs), and am about 5' 10" - 6'. I'm in the 'severe
overweight' category going by my the BMI. I didn't think i was that fat!

I have set a goal to get down to 75kg (165 lbs) by February. Is this
possible or am i going at it too fast here?

Thanks in advance.

By the way i was 'nobody', i just changed my nick cause i will hang
around here.


You're eating enough red meat and cheese to almost be an instant heart
attack, besides being way too many calories. Fitday tends to drastically
overestimate how many calories people burn, so chances are if you keep
eating like this, you're going to gain.


  #10  
Old December 1st, 2003, 07:52 PM
Chris Braun
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:35:29 +1030, bjg
wrote:

Here's my intake for my first day of measuring:

source grams cals %total
Total: 3089
Fat: 135 1215 41%
Sat: 67 602 20%
Poly: 7 67 2%
Mono: 45 408 14%
Carbs: 300 1055 35%
Fiber: 36 0 0%
Protein: 181 724 24%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

I never drink alcohol so can't see that ever having a value, unless it's
in a certain food.

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...wner=bgrossman

There's more details. What do i need to cut down on etc? I probably
shouldn't have eaten the 2nd piece of steak, and shouldn't have drunk the
can of Coke, and also probably not so much cheese, but didn't want it to
go to waste.


Your guesses are pretty good. Your diet is quite high in fat, thanks
to lots of steak and lots of cheese. (Why would the cheese have gone
to waste? It keeps for quite a while in the refrigerator.)

I weigh 97kg (213 lbs), and am about 5' 10" - 6'. I'm in the 'severe
overweight' category going by my the BMI. I didn't think i was that fat!


BMI isn't the best indicator to go by. What's more important is your
percentage of bodyfat vs. lean tissue. If you have a lot of muscle
you can weigh more without being overfat. And of course BMI leaves
out any consideration of bone structure/frame size.

I have set a goal to get down to 75kg (165 lbs) by February. Is this
possible or am i going at it too fast here?


Most people recommend a goal of 1-2 lbs. of weight loss per week. By
the beginning of February, which is about 8 weeks away, 2 lbs. per
week would put you down 16 lbs. -- quite a bit less than the 48 lbs.
you're hoping for. Perhaps you have a faster metabolism than some
people, but your goal still seems too aggressive. Is there a
particular reason you need to set such an aggressive goal? You might
just set yourself up to be dissatisfied and to give up. Even if you
lose 8-16 lbs. in the next two months, it's a lot better than not
losing it, after all.

Anyway, if you keep eating 3000+ calories a day you are unlikely to
lose any weight. Usual recommendations are to eat around 10 calories
per pound of bodyweight -- in your case around 2100 calories -- to
lose weight.

I forget if you've said anything about exercise. What sort of
exercise are you doing?


Thanks in advance.

By the way i was 'nobody', i just changed my nick cause i will hang
around here.


Welcome. Keep us posted on how it's going.

Chris
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