RAFL week 9 - Prairie Roots

I'm keeping my current almond refrigerator for the next couple of
years so mine will probably stick out from the cabinets and not look
so built in.

For now, I'll be replacing stove, dishwasher, and microwave.

I'm liking the post-decision making time best. Anticipating what it's
all going to look like is great fun. But spending 10 hours on the Web
researching sinks was not my idea of entertainment, except that I did
most of it during work hours. SHHHH!!

My house is mostly filled with stuff other people have given me over
the years, so I've never really had to figure out what I like and
want. That is probably the most challenging part of all this: what do
I want!

On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 01:33:21 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I'm sure this is a goofy question but ... will your refrigerator be one of the 24"
deep ones? I have one that appears to be built in (cabinets overhead and
surrounding) and it had to be the same depth of the cabinets for that appearance.
It took me awhile to get used to the smaller size (depth), but will say that I
absolutely love it and will replace with the same thing! The freestanding
range/oven being built in was much easier, as mine is in the center of the room,
so it is surrounded by a breakfast bar. Gives the appearance of being built in,
but tons of counter space, cabinets and drawers surrounding it. I also was able
to save some space for an open cabinet over it (for display type things) by going
with a down draft rangetop instead of one requiring a fan.

The microwave was the easiest item to replace, they have really come down in
prices. I have to say though ... I don't like my new one as much as I liked my 20
year old one. sigh Other than the fact that this one works. G

Sounds like you are having fun picking out all those necessary items.

Joyce

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 20:52:19 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote:

Thanks for your input, Fred. I really appreciate hearing what other
people think. I've decided to go with a Blanco SS sink with built-in
drainer board. I found a great deal on the Web, better price than the
plumber can get; I'll be ordering it in the next day or two. I ordered
a few bathroom accessories over the weekend.

Construction starts Wednesday. On Lee's suggestion, I paid a visit to
Target yesterday and picked up an electric skillet, and also a
convection/toaster oven and a hot pot (for boiling water for tea).
Both the skillet and the oven are stainless steel with black. Tonight
I'm setting up a temporary kitchen in the basement.

Most likely, I'll be keeping my almond refrigerator, at least for
another year or two. It's only 8 years old and still works/looks like
new. My stove is so old I can't even get burner pans to fit and parts
don't work any more. The dishwasher is old as well. Still functional
but rust is forming inside. My microwave is in similar condition. So
I'll be replacing these three appliances now. The DW will be builtin,
the MW attached to the wall above the stove. The stove will be free
standing, but it and my refrigerator will look builtin with cabinets
on both sides. Only the fronts will be exposed.

I want my kitchen to feel contemporary and traditional at the same
time. With my designer's help, I think I'll end up with a room that,
in her words, is both edgy (without being trendy) and timeless. SS
appliances will help me achieve that look.

Thanks again for your opinion. It helps.

Linda P
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 18:21:49 -0800, Fred
wrote:

I went stainless appliances and still like the choice altho, I did not
replace all of them at once. The dishwasher was the first item.
About 6 months later a fridge. Finally, two years after that it was
the free-standing range. Gas top, electric oven. I lived fine with
the mix (G)

My sink/counter is corian. Seamless, which is what I wanted. Corian
does have some limitations - have to be careful with heat/hot items.
They recommend not pouring off boiling water directly into it without
running a stream of cold water from the tap.

Many think stainless appliances are too surgical/sterile. Like I
said, three years later - I still like it. One issue - many such
appliances, especially free-standing - fridge/oven - have only black
sidewalls. That can be imposing. Black stove top also seems to show
smears more than my white one did.

Another fact - good stainless will not hold refrigerator magnets -
might be an important issue for hanging grandchild's masterworks! (G)
But that's how I overcome the black sidewall of the fridge - lots of
magnets (G)

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 16:02:05 -0600, Prairie Roots
wrote:

Thanks Lee. My sink choices are quickly narrowing to stainless steel.
I've been listening to a couple of friends who don't care for
stainless, but I have SS now and don't seem to mind the problems
they've listed. I'll be buying a new gas range/stovetop and
dishwasher, too, and am considering stainless steel finish.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:27:49 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

I am glad to see your attitude is so wonderful. Get stainless steel
whatever configuration you get on the sink, I love stainless steel, Lee
Prairie Roots wrote in message
om...
My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last week. I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total loss and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep going. This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't heard from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a jacket formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it fit. I also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit size 10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the medium tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new lift. Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't exercise even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending construction work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding what kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction budget I want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today I'll have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus strike started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting home later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health issues. A major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing completion and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from WW this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!
--
Linda P
week 54: 232/159.6/WW goal 145
RAFL week 9: 167/159.6/154
next mini-goals: 157 (75 lbs total loss); 155 (10 lbs to WW goal); 154
( RAFL goal)
started WW 22-Feb-2003 | 10% target: 1-May-2003
5'4" | 50 | F




Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

It is called heat shock. Apparently, expansion can occur at
differential rate at the HOT SPOT and expand and then crack - more
than just plain melting from a very hot pot. I believe both corian
and others now have a second product that may not suffer this issue
but am not sure. I still like it but you do have to remind folks it
is NOT A CUTTING BOARD!!!! I still like how clean it generally looks.

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:04:06 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

I didn't know that about Corian. Thanks Fred!


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I went stainless appliances and still like the choice altho, I did not
replace all of them at once. The dishwasher was the first item.
About 6 months later a fridge. Finally, two years after that it was
the free-standing range. Gas top, electric oven. I lived fine with
the mix (G)

My sink/counter is corian. Seamless, which is what I wanted. Corian
does have some limitations - have to be careful with heat/hot items.
They recommend not pouring off boiling water directly into it without
running a stream of cold water from the tap.

Many think stainless appliances are too surgical/sterile. Like I
said, three years later - I still like it. One issue - many such
appliances, especially free-standing - fridge/oven - have only black
sidewalls. That can be imposing. Black stove top also seems to show
smears more than my white one did.

Another fact - good stainless will not hold refrigerator magnets -
might be an important issue for hanging grandchild's masterworks! (G)
But that's how I overcome the black sidewall of the fridge - lots of
magnets (G)

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 16:02:05 -0600, Prairie Roots
wrote:

Thanks Lee. My sink choices are quickly narrowing to stainless steel.
I've been listening to a couple of friends who don't care for
stainless, but I have SS now and don't seem to mind the problems
they've listed. I'll be buying a new gas range/stovetop and
dishwasher, too, and am considering stainless steel finish.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:27:49 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

I am glad to see your attitude is so wonderful. Get stainless steel
whatever configuration you get on the sink, I love stainless steel, Lee
Prairie Roots wrote in message
. ..
My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last week. I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total loss and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep going. This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't heard from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a jacket formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it fit. I also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit size 10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the medium tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new lift. Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't exercise even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending construction work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding what kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction budget I want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today I'll have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus strike started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting home later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health issues. A major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing completion and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from WW this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!
--
Linda P
week 54: 232/159.6/WW goal 145
RAFL week 9: 167/159.6/154
next mini-goals: 157 (75 lbs total loss); 155 (10 lbs to WW goal); 154
( RAFL goal)
started WW 22-Feb-2003 | 10% target: 1-May-2003
5'4" | 50 | F




Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

hehehe - I like the frazzled picture on the right better, one on the left is an
angel (although I DO think you are an angel). I don't remember the noise being a
factor, or keeping water hot. I have a dishwasher, but do wash by hand throughout
the day (small loads, meal prep stuff). And if soaking, the water still gets cold
in the ceramic sink ... I tend to let stuff sit too long. G

Hey, as long as YOU will be happy - that's what is important. Get what you want,
you have to live with it. I honestly do believe that is why there are different
materials available ... for each of our different tastes. And like I said, I
would love it in your home, and be very jealous. But if I bought the same, I
would be unhappy in a matter of weeks. I'm wierd that way. G

Remember to take lots of before and after pictures. It's fun to go and look back,
makes you wonder how you survived so long in he-double-el. G

Joyce

On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 05:38:05 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote:

The reasons Joyce lists below are the primary reasons my three friends
gave for disliking SS. Other reasons include the noise of SS when hit
with a pan or tumbling tableware (forks, knives, spoons), and the
inability to keep hot water hot when handwashing dishes.

Honestly, I've never noticed the noise factor. Water spots don't
bother me at all. And I use a dishwasher. You can find a picture of me
at www.flylady.net. I'm the frazzled one in the upper left corner of
the home page.

I'm ordering my SS sink today.

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:03:10 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

Forgive me, but why in the world do your friends not care for stainless?

Julie, who can't fathom that idea.

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks Lee. My sink choices are quickly narrowing to stainless steel.
I've been listening to a couple of friends who don't care for
stainless, but I have SS now and don't seem to mind the problems
they've listed. I'll be buying a new gas range/stovetop and
dishwasher, too, and am considering stainless steel finish.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:27:49 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

I am glad to see your attitude is so wonderful. Get stainless steel
whatever configuration you get on the sink, I love stainless steel, Lee
Prairie Roots wrote in message
.. .
My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last week. I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total loss and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep going. This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't heard from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a jacket formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it fit. I also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit size 10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the medium tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new lift. Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't exercise even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending construction work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding what kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction budget I want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today I'll have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus strike started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting home later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health issues. A major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing completion and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from WW this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!
--
Linda P
week 54: 232/159.6/WW goal 145
RAFL week 9: 167/159.6/154
next mini-goals: 157 (75 lbs total loss); 155 (10 lbs to WW goal); 154
( RAFL goal)
started WW 22-Feb-2003 | 10% target: 1-May-2003
5'4" | 50 | F




Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003


Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Oops! Obviously I haven't been to the site in a long while. I'm the
one on the RIGHT! Besides, the one on the left is a bit plumper than I
am currently. Never thought I'd say that about anything! LOL

Linda P

On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 09:32:37 -0600, Joyce wrote:

hehehe - I like the frazzled picture on the right better, one on the left is an
angel (although I DO think you are an angel).

I think all those stores are too expensive too. I only shop there in case of
emergency or during clearance sales.

Btw, I'm June too.

Julie
"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Yup, definitely younger category ... you are the same age as our oldest
girl
(she'll be 30 in June). She also loves Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie Bauer,
Express, etc. To me, the *normal* prices at all these stores are too
expensive.
Again, probably an age thing. What I think is expensive, she thinks is
reasonable. G I'm more of a Kohl's/Penney's type shopper. G

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:16:46 -0600, "skiur" wrote:

I'll be thirty this year, so I guess I qualify in the younger category.
I'm
also all of 5 ft 3 in and my torso seems to be proportioned--I wouldn't
know
since it's been submerged under the weight for so long.

It's certainly clearance time. We'll be going to Banana Republic for dh
soon...I have a feeling sweaters will be inexpensive soon. Last year we
got
him cashmere/silk blends for $7/ea.

Julie, who loves to get great bargains on clothing.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I did buy one pair of Gap jeans on clearance, was a great deal for $10.
You will
get into that XL shirt. If you're younger, you probably don't mind
those
shorter
styles anyway. My problem is that all my height is from the waist up -
so
shirts
that are cut to hit at the waist normally, will hit me even higher up.
Not a
pretty picture on this old lady. G I did find some terrific buys
after
Christmas ... mens cotton sweaters, marked down to $6. These were cut
so
short, I
can't imagine any man wearing them. But they fit me perfectly, and are
just plain
unisex styling. Guess it's time once again to check out the clearance
racks. I
found out today that what few hooded sweatshirts I have, are all size L
(mens) ...
much too big. This should be the right time to pick stuff up cheaply.

Joyce

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:44:48 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

No, but on clearance they are very attractive. I have a shirt from
the
Gap
that I bought specifically as a NSV clothing shirt. I paid $1.99 for
it.
I
do hope to get into it at some point, it's an XL.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I do have two pairs of jeans from the gap, but they don't seem to
fit
as
well as
these others I have found. They fit *ok* and are acceptable ...
except
for the
price. G Shirts at the Gap are definitely made for younger
females,
those with
little to no chest factor. G Even my 105 pound daughter has to
take
a
medium
there. They seem to be cut small and short ... not good options for
women
with
longer body lengths.

Joyce

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:04 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

Have you been to the Gap? I know they are more expensive, but if
they
fit
right....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I tend to have the same thing, hard to stay focused 100% of the
time
when
everyone
is fussing over us. I find I kind of relax just a little too
much.
G
But,
that's ok too - sometimes you just have to relax, as long as we
don't
make
it a
forever thing.

I have a tough time with jeans too, had someone the other day
tell
me
to
try the
junior sizing (yeah, right, sure - not gonna happen unless I want
to
totally
humiliate myself). Relaxed fit is too big in the legs, hips and
thighs -
look
like clown pants on me. I have a pair of carpenter pants on
today,
size 6
and
very baggy. I could take a 4 in these and probably still have a
bit
of
room to
spare - they don't come in 4's. In lower rise jeans I seem to
need
a
smaller size
than in regular cut higher waist - the waist is too snug for my
liking
and
I do
like to be able to breath. I haven't tried the Gloria Vanderbilt
jeans,
always
made the assumption that those *designer* names wouldn't work for
me -
maybe I
will give them a try as I saw some cute capri's in a sales ad
this
week.
I found
a new one that does fit me well though, only ones in the Lee
brand
that
aren't
baggy in the legs ... they have a *one true fit* or something
like
that -
fits me
very nicely ... everywhere. Same with the Levi Nouveau but I
forget
which
number
(why do they assign the styles numbers???). The levi's have a
little
stretch to
them, great in the waist but tend to get a tad baggy in the seat
after
a
few
hours. Oh well, I like the baggy better than the constant snug I
used
to
deal
with. g Shirts are an entirely different story with me - range
anywhere
from a
small to a large, depending on the store and brand. I have no
clue.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:37 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Thanks Joyce. I got a lot of compliments and attention at work
this
week regarding my weight loss, people saying things about how
confident I appear, that I have a more positive attitude, and
just
plain look great. I think my head got a little puffed up from
all
the
compliments and that's what started all the other crazy
thinking.

It's hard to find jeans that fit me. The ubiquitous relaxed fit
jeans
don't work for me; I carry my weight in my tummy, not my hips
and
thighs. Of all the brands I've tried, Gloria Vanderbilt classic
fit
jeans fit me best. I too like a little stretch in my jeans,
makes
bending over not just a breathtaking experience. LOL But
couldn't
find
any this shopping trip and the non-stretch jeans don't cut off
my
oxygen supply.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Linda P

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:58:12 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Hey, taking a week of following the program and maintaining is
fantastic! Call it
practice for the future, you've proved to yourself that it can
be
done.
Congrats
on holding firm this week.

Wish I could help you with the sink decision ... my decisions
are
always
to go on
the cheap side of things. G I think both times we've
replaced
the
sink, we
ended up at Builders Square (or similar home improvement store)
and
looking at
their discards (something that someone else ordered and
couldn't/wouldn't use for
one reason or another). Many times they may have had a little
chip
or
scratch in
the underside - nothing noticeable or functionable - but always
at
a
great
reduction and usable. Might be something to think about or
look
into.

What a great NSV, fitting easily into those size 10 jeans,
smaller
tops
and much
smaller undergarments. I love the clothing victories (yet
still
hate
to
shop).
Where did you ever find jeans without stretch though? I swear
that
seems to be
all that is being made these days! BUT ... don't write them
off
dear.
They are
wonderfully comfortable, and I've found rather flattering.
They
hug
ya
in all
those places we didn't use to like being hugged. G

Fight back with those other personalities of yours that are
currently
letting
themselves be heard. Do not let them put a damper on your
motivation
or
spirit.
You know why you should go further, just have to make sure you
are
louder than
those other voices. C'mon Linda (wow, was THAT hard for me to
say),
you
can do
it!

Joyce



On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:54:10 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health issues. A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

What's funny is that I've had a terrible time with my mom's ceramic sink.
It's all scratched up and has the metal streak marks from pots and what not.
I can't get any of the stains out and I've even tried Dawn Complete on them.
I'm not surprised if it due to the previous owner cheaping out. They seemed
to have done that on a few other items in the house as well.

The first house we lived in had a stainless sink circa 1960 (as Deb
mentioned, I believe) not a problem with it at all.

Julie

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I think it's just another one of those *personal taste* things. Why did
the woman
who lived in THIS house before me, prefer dark panelled walls, white
carpet (ah,
and orange in a few rooms) and draperies that ran wall to wall (to cover
up 40"
windows)? That's why there are so many different products on the market -
each of
us have different tastes.

Me? Add me to the *don't like, won't have* stainless steel group. I've
had it,
found it a pain to keep clean and nice looking, it always looked scratched
and
nicked up. The only way to remove finger prints, water spots and
streaking was to
constantly be wiping down with vinegar. I am not a constant type of
cleaner. G

I love the ceramic, is so much easier (for me anyway). What you think are
scratches and stains, come out with elbow grease and ajax/comet scouring
powder.
Any residual coffee staining, fill sink with water and bleach solution and
let
soak for 30 minutes or so ... rinse and back to bright white. After 16
years,
mine still is looking grand.

Then again, it might be one of those age issues. Styles tend to go in
circles,
and I notice stainless is very vogue once again.

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:03:10 -0600, "skiur" wrote:

Forgive me, but why in the world do your friends not care for stainless?

Julie, who can't fathom that idea.

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks Lee. My sink choices are quickly narrowing to stainless steel.
I've been listening to a couple of friends who don't care for
stainless, but I have SS now and don't seem to mind the problems
they've listed. I'll be buying a new gas range/stovetop and
dishwasher, too, and am considering stainless steel finish.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:27:49 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

I am glad to see your attitude is so wonderful. Get stainless steel
whatever configuration you get on the sink, I love stainless steel,
Lee
Prairie Roots wrote in message
.. .
My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total loss and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it fit. I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit size 10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the medium tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new lift. Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't exercise even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding what kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction budget I want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus strike started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health issues. A major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing completion and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from WW this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!
--
Linda P
week 54: 232/159.6/WW goal 145
RAFL week 9: 167/159.6/154
next mini-goals: 157 (75 lbs total loss); 155 (10 lbs to WW goal);
154
( RAFL goal)
started WW 22-Feb-2003 | 10% target: 1-May-2003
5'4" | 50 | F




Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

I've never noticed the noise or the hot water when handwashing issue-but I
also don't like my water hot unless something is soaking in it and I use a
dishwasher too.


"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
...
The reasons Joyce lists below are the primary reasons my three friends
gave for disliking SS. Other reasons include the noise of SS when hit
with a pan or tumbling tableware (forks, knives, spoons), and the
inability to keep hot water hot when handwashing dishes.

Honestly, I've never noticed the noise factor. Water spots don't
bother me at all. And I use a dishwasher. You can find a picture of me
at www.flylady.net. I'm the frazzled one in the upper left corner of
the home page.

I'm ordering my SS sink today.

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:03:10 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

Forgive me, but why in the world do your friends not care for stainless?

Julie, who can't fathom that idea.

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks Lee. My sink choices are quickly narrowing to stainless steel.
I've been listening to a couple of friends who don't care for
stainless, but I have SS now and don't seem to mind the problems
they've listed. I'll be buying a new gas range/stovetop and
dishwasher, too, and am considering stainless steel finish.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:27:49 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

I am glad to see your attitude is so wonderful. Get stainless steel
whatever configuration you get on the sink, I love stainless steel,
Lee
Prairie Roots wrote in message
.. .
My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total loss and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it fit. I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit size 10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the medium tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new lift. Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't exercise even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding what kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction budget I want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus strike started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health issues. A major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing completion and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from WW this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!
--
Linda P
week 54: 232/159.6/WW goal 145
RAFL week 9: 167/159.6/154
next mini-goals: 157 (75 lbs total loss); 155 (10 lbs to WW goal);
154
( RAFL goal)
started WW 22-Feb-2003 | 10% target: 1-May-2003
5'4" | 50 | F




Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003


Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Makes sense. Thanks.


"Fred" wrote in message
...
It is called heat shock. Apparently, expansion can occur at
differential rate at the HOT SPOT and expand and then crack - more
than just plain melting from a very hot pot. I believe both corian
and others now have a second product that may not suffer this issue
but am not sure. I still like it but you do have to remind folks it
is NOT A CUTTING BOARD!!!! I still like how clean it generally looks.

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:04:06 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

I didn't know that about Corian. Thanks Fred!


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I went stainless appliances and still like the choice altho, I did not
replace all of them at once. The dishwasher was the first item.
About 6 months later a fridge. Finally, two years after that it was
the free-standing range. Gas top, electric oven. I lived fine with
the mix (G)

My sink/counter is corian. Seamless, which is what I wanted. Corian
does have some limitations - have to be careful with heat/hot items.
They recommend not pouring off boiling water directly into it without
running a stream of cold water from the tap.

Many think stainless appliances are too surgical/sterile. Like I
said, three years later - I still like it. One issue - many such
appliances, especially free-standing - fridge/oven - have only black
sidewalls. That can be imposing. Black stove top also seems to show
smears more than my white one did.

Another fact - good stainless will not hold refrigerator magnets -
might be an important issue for hanging grandchild's masterworks! (G)
But that's how I overcome the black sidewall of the fridge - lots of
magnets (G)

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 16:02:05 -0600, Prairie Roots
wrote:

Thanks Lee. My sink choices are quickly narrowing to stainless steel.
I've been listening to a couple of friends who don't care for
stainless, but I have SS now and don't seem to mind the problems
they've listed. I'll be buying a new gas range/stovetop and
dishwasher, too, and am considering stainless steel finish.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:27:49 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

I am glad to see your attitude is so wonderful. Get stainless steel
whatever configuration you get on the sink, I love stainless steel,
Lee
Prairie Roots wrote in message
. ..
My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total loss and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it fit. I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit size 10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the medium tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't exercise even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction budget I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health issues. A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing completion and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from WW this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!
--
Linda P
week 54: 232/159.6/WW goal 145
RAFL week 9: 167/159.6/154
next mini-goals: 157 (75 lbs total loss); 155 (10 lbs to WW goal);
154
( RAFL goal)
started WW 22-Feb-2003 | 10% target: 1-May-2003
5'4" | 50 | F




Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

We had a Kohl's open in our town last week. This was the first wave of
stores to open in Nor Cal. I was very disappointed in the store and the
quality of merchandise and the prices were on the high side as far as I was
concerned. But that is just my observation of going there last night and
looking for a strapless bra for my youngest daughter. $30+ for a bra that
hold barely anything. She is a 34A.

Debbie

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Yup, definitely younger category ... you are the same age as our oldest
girl
(she'll be 30 in June). She also loves Gap, Banana Republic, Eddie Bauer,
Express, etc. To me, the *normal* prices at all these stores are too
expensive.
Again, probably an age thing. What I think is expensive, she thinks is
reasonable. G I'm more of a Kohl's/Penney's type shopper. G

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:16:46 -0600, "skiur" wrote:

I'll be thirty this year, so I guess I qualify in the younger category.
I'm
also all of 5 ft 3 in and my torso seems to be proportioned--I wouldn't
know
since it's been submerged under the weight for so long.

It's certainly clearance time. We'll be going to Banana Republic for dh
soon...I have a feeling sweaters will be inexpensive soon. Last year we
got
him cashmere/silk blends for $7/ea.

Julie, who loves to get great bargains on clothing.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I did buy one pair of Gap jeans on clearance, was a great deal for $10.
You will
get into that XL shirt. If you're younger, you probably don't mind
those
shorter
styles anyway. My problem is that all my height is from the waist up -
so
shirts
that are cut to hit at the waist normally, will hit me even higher up.
Not a
pretty picture on this old lady. G I did find some terrific buys
after
Christmas ... mens cotton sweaters, marked down to $6. These were cut
so
short, I
can't imagine any man wearing them. But they fit me perfectly, and are
just plain
unisex styling. Guess it's time once again to check out the clearance
racks. I
found out today that what few hooded sweatshirts I have, are all size L
(mens) ...
much too big. This should be the right time to pick stuff up cheaply.

Joyce

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:44:48 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

No, but on clearance they are very attractive. I have a shirt from
the
Gap
that I bought specifically as a NSV clothing shirt. I paid $1.99 for
it.
I
do hope to get into it at some point, it's an XL.

Julie


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I do have two pairs of jeans from the gap, but they don't seem to
fit
as
well as
these others I have found. They fit *ok* and are acceptable ...
except
for the
price. G Shirts at the Gap are definitely made for younger
females,
those with
little to no chest factor. G Even my 105 pound daughter has to
take
a
medium
there. They seem to be cut small and short ... not good options for
women
with
longer body lengths.

Joyce

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:04 -0600, "skiur"
wrote:

Have you been to the Gap? I know they are more expensive, but if
they
fit
right....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I tend to have the same thing, hard to stay focused 100% of the
time
when
everyone
is fussing over us. I find I kind of relax just a little too
much.
G
But,
that's ok too - sometimes you just have to relax, as long as we
don't
make
it a
forever thing.

I have a tough time with jeans too, had someone the other day
tell
me
to
try the
junior sizing (yeah, right, sure - not gonna happen unless I want
to
totally
humiliate myself). Relaxed fit is too big in the legs, hips and
thighs -
look
like clown pants on me. I have a pair of carpenter pants on
today,
size 6
and
very baggy. I could take a 4 in these and probably still have a
bit
of
room to
spare - they don't come in 4's. In lower rise jeans I seem to
need
a
smaller size
than in regular cut higher waist - the waist is too snug for my
liking
and
I do
like to be able to breath. I haven't tried the Gloria Vanderbilt
jeans,
always
made the assumption that those *designer* names wouldn't work for
me -
maybe I
will give them a try as I saw some cute capri's in a sales ad
this
week.
I found
a new one that does fit me well though, only ones in the Lee
brand
that
aren't
baggy in the legs ... they have a *one true fit* or something
like
that -
fits me
very nicely ... everywhere. Same with the Levi Nouveau but I
forget
which
number
(why do they assign the styles numbers???). The levi's have a
little
stretch to
them, great in the waist but tend to get a tad baggy in the seat
after
a
few
hours. Oh well, I like the baggy better than the constant snug I
used
to
deal
with. g Shirts are an entirely different story with me - range
anywhere
from a
small to a large, depending on the store and brand. I have no cl
ue.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:13:37 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

Thanks Joyce. I got a lot of compliments and attention at work
this
week regarding my weight loss, people saying things about how
confident I appear, that I have a more positive attitude, and
just
plain look great. I think my head got a little puffed up from
all
the
compliments and that's what started all the other crazy
thinking.

It's hard to find jeans that fit me. The ubiquitous relaxed fit
jeans
don't work for me; I carry my weight in my tummy, not my hips
and
thighs. Of all the brands I've tried, Gloria Vanderbilt classic
fit
jeans fit me best. I too like a little stretch in my jeans,
makes
bending over not just a breathtaking experience. LOL But
couldn't
find
any this shopping trip and the non-stretch jeans don't cut off
my
oxygen supply.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Linda P

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 09:58:12 -0600, Joyce wrote:

Hey, taking a week of following the program and maintaining is
fantastic! Call it
practice for the future, you've proved to yourself that it can
be
done.
Congrats
on holding firm this week.

Wish I could help you with the sink decision ... my decisions
are
always
to go on
the cheap side of things. G I think both times we've
replaced
the
sink, we
ended up at Builders Square (or similar home improvement store)
and
looking at
their discards (something that someone else ordered and
couldn't/wouldn't use for
one reason or another). Many times they may have had a little
chip
or
scratch in
the underside - nothing noticeable or functionable - but always
at
a
great
reduction and usable. Might be something to think about or
look
into.

What a great NSV, fitting easily into those size 10 jeans,
smaller
tops
and much
smaller undergarments. I love the clothing victories (yet
still
hate
to
shop).
Where did you ever find jeans without stretch though? I swear
that
seems to be
all that is being made these days! BUT ... don't write them
off
dear.
They are
wonderfully comfortable, and I've found rather flattering.
They
hug
ya
in all
those places we didn't use to like being hugged. G

Fight back with those other personalities of yours that are
currently
letting
themselves be heard. Do not let them put a damper on your
motivation
or
spirit.
You know why you should go further, just have to make sure you
are
louder than
those other voices. C'mon Linda (wow, was THAT hard for me to
say),
you
can do
it!

Joyce



On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 08:54:10 -0600, Prairie Roots

wrote:

My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last
week.
I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total loss
and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep
going.
This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't
heard
from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a jacket
formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it fit.
I
also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit
size
10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the medium
tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new lift.
Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't exercise
even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending
construction
work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding
what
kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction budget
I
want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today
I'll
have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus strike
started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting
home
later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health issues. A
major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing completion
and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from WW
this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few
other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!

Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

I made some comments about "vogue" when looking at stainless and was
reminded of COPPERTONE - now, there was a blast from the past!

For years, this place had an almond fridge (mine from a prior house),
a harvest gold, rollaway dishwasher (I inherited at the prior house)
and a white stove (this house). Oh, yes, the sink was stainless. Now
the sink ain't but everything else is! (G)

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 23:58:07 -0600, Joyce wrote:

I think it's just another one of those *personal taste* things. Why did the woman
who lived in THIS house before me, prefer dark panelled walls, white carpet (ah,
and orange in a few rooms) and draperies that ran wall to wall (to cover up 40"
windows)? That's why there are so many different products on the market - each of
us have different tastes.

Me? Add me to the *don't like, won't have* stainless steel group. I've had it,
found it a pain to keep clean and nice looking, it always looked scratched and
nicked up. The only way to remove finger prints, water spots and streaking was to
constantly be wiping down with vinegar. I am not a constant type of cleaner. G

I love the ceramic, is so much easier (for me anyway). What you think are
scratches and stains, come out with elbow grease and ajax/comet scouring powder.
Any residual coffee staining, fill sink with water and bleach solution and let
soak for 30 minutes or so ... rinse and back to bright white. After 16 years,
mine still is looking grand.

Then again, it might be one of those age issues. Styles tend to go in circles,
and I notice stainless is very vogue once again.

Joyce

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:03:10 -0600, "skiur" wrote:

Forgive me, but why in the world do your friends not care for stainless?

Julie, who can't fathom that idea.

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks Lee. My sink choices are quickly narrowing to stainless steel.
I've been listening to a couple of friends who don't care for
stainless, but I have SS now and don't seem to mind the problems
they've listed. I'll be buying a new gas range/stovetop and
dishwasher, too, and am considering stainless steel finish.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:27:49 -0600, "Miss Violette"
wrote:

I am glad to see your attitude is so wonderful. Get stainless steel
whatever configuration you get on the sink, I love stainless steel, Lee
Prairie Roots wrote in message
.. .
My current weight: 159.6 lbs
Weight change since my last recorded weight: 0.0 lbs
Total weight change to date: -72.4 lbs

Today I'm grateful to see no change in my weight from last week. I've
been on a mental plateau this week. Hitting the 70+ total loss and
getting below 160 is doing a job on my motivation to keep going. This
is further than I expected to go; some part of me I haven't heard from
before is wondering why I think I should even further.

It probably didn't help that, on a whim, I tried on a jacket formerly
worn by one of my skinny daughters and discovered that it fit. I also
went shopping for some new jeans and got into a classic fit size 10
petite withOUT stretch. When I also discovered that the medium tops
fit nicely, I realized I should head over to the foundations
department for new undergarments and give my girls a new lift. Since
starting WW, I've gone down from 44DD to 38D.

My food was off this week. More importantly, I didn't exercise even
once. I'm on a rollercoaster ride with the impending construction work
on my kitchen and bathroom. My current dilemma is deciding what kind
of kitchen sink I want and how much of my construction budget I want
to spend on it. I still haven't gotten my bike. Later today I'll have
to call and find out if I need to get cranky. The bus strike started
and I'm carpooling, leaving earlier than usual and getting home later.
I'm starting with a new hospice patient whose health issues. A major
project I've been involved with at work is nearing completion and
morphing into an even bigger project.

All of this is to say that I took a bit of a breather from WW this
week to marvel at my overall progress and to focus on a few other
pressing issues. That I ended up maintaining is a wonder.

It's the best day of my life!
--
Linda P
week 54: 232/159.6/WW goal 145
RAFL week 9: 167/159.6/154
next mini-goals: 157 (75 lbs total loss); 155 (10 lbs to WW goal); 154
( RAFL goal)
started WW 22-Feb-2003 | 10% target: 1-May-2003
5'4" | 50 | F




Linda P
232/159.6/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003