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On the evils of wheat
William Davis, a preventive cardiologist who practises in Milwaukee, Wis., argues in his new book Wheat Belly that wheat is bad for your health—so bad that it should carry a surgeon general’s warning. http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/20/o...ke-you-skinny/ -- Dogman |
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On the evils of wheat
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Dogman wrote: William Davis, a preventive cardiologist who practises in Milwaukee, Wis., argues in his new book Wheat Belly that wheat is bad for your health—so bad that it should carry a surgeon general’s warning. http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/20/o...is-so-addictiv e-and-how-shunning-it-will-make-you-skinny/ It so happens that a low carb diet has little or no room for wheat, anyway. -- Ignorance is no protection against reality. -- Paul J Gans |
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On the evils of wheat
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Walter Bushell wrote: In article , Dogman wrote: William Davis, a preventive cardiologist who practises in Milwaukee, Wis., argues in his new book Wheat Belly that wheat is bad for your health—so bad that it should carry a surgeon general’s warning. http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/20/o...t-is-so-addict iv e-and-how-shunning-it-will-make-you-skinny/ It so happens that a low carb diet has little or no room for wheat, anyway. What room there is should be occupied by whole grains, not highly refined grains. -- - Billy Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans "appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of waste, fraud and abuse." http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/ [W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And it¹s not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. That¹s hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they don¹t get away with no taxation. - Ralph Nader http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis |
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On the evils of wheat
On 2011-09-21 18:25, Billy wrote:
In , Walter wrote: In , wrote: William Davis, a preventive cardiologist who practises in Milwaukee, Wis., argues in his new book Wheat Belly that wheat is bad for your health—so bad that it should carry a surgeon general’s warning. http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/20/o...t-is-so-addict iv e-and-how-shunning-it-will-make-you-skinny/ It so happens that a low carb diet has little or no room for wheat, anyway. What room there is should be occupied by whole grains, not highly refined grains. One of the comments of Dr. Davis is that the glycemic index of whole wheat bread is a few points higher than that of white bread. Suggests that "Whole Grain" is not automatically healthy. Another one of his points is that the glycemic index of sugar is less than either white bread or whole grain bread. His patient responses led him to do the literature research on wheat which led to his book. Of course he gives example case histories, as most "diet" books customarily do, but the history of wheat illnesses, including those derived from gluten and other proteins, are the primary reasons to consider reading the book. I had a recent diabetes scare when a single fasting blood glucose came in at 135. I bought a meter and supplies and began home testing. The book came out and I read it and adopted the wheat free notion. Previously my fasting glucose numbers were "prediabetic" between 100 and 120 mg/dL. My readings fell with time, and now over half of the readings are in the 80's and 90's. Going down into the "healthy" range. The next lab blood test is next week, and that will hopefully calibrate the home glucose meter somewhat. I no longer have the "cookie" or sugar urges. It is too easy, now, to skip meals if I am doing something interesting. Is this real or placebo? Who cares, I like the current status. |
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On the evils of wheat
Jim wrote:
His patient responses led him to do the literature research on wheat which led to his book. Of course he gives example case histories, as most "diet" books customarily do, but the history of wheat illnesses, including those derived from gluten and other proteins, are the primary reasons to consider reading the book. I had a recent diabetes scare when a single fasting blood glucose came in at 135. I bought a meter and supplies and began home testing. The book came out and I read it and adopted the wheat free notion. Previously my fasting glucose numbers were "prediabetic" between 100 and 120 mg/dL. My readings fell with time, and now over half of the readings are in the 80's and 90's. Going down into the "healthy" range. The next lab blood test is next week, and that will hopefully calibrate the home glucose meter somewhat. I no longer have the "cookie" or sugar urges. It is too easy, now, to skip meals if I am doing something interesting. Is this real or placebo? Who cares, I like the current status. Being wheat intolerant myself I am biased against eating wheat. That said I think the current wheat scare is mostly a veiled push for low carbing in general. Blaming wheat gets people to eat less carbs and most people do better with less carbs. The number of people who are wheat intolerant or gluten intolerant is only a few percent of the population. Enough that it's vastly more than the ones who know they have the issue. A percentage that is far too small to tell people blindly to avoid wheat. My view is the current push against wheat gets a lot of people to lower their carb intake. That helps a very large minority of the population. Among them is a small percentage who benefit from actually removing wheat rather than just from reducing carbs. It's not a bad approach but it misses the point that what is happening in most cases is lower total carb intake and lower glycemic load. Pick any high glycemic load food that's a sizable percentage of the typical diet. Convince people to not have that. The result is good because the typical diet is so high in carbs it's a problem. Convincing people to drop sodas would generally have the same result. Simple minded, effective, beneificial, but based on an idea that points in the wrong direction. One really good lesson - Glycemic load matters. Talk of "simple versus complex carbs" has little to do with actually measuring glycemic load. Very carby foods aren't beneficial in a culture that has already pushed many of us to the point our bodies treat very carby foods as problems. |
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On the evils of wheat
But I think his most important point is that the wheat we get now is not the
wheat of our ancestors, in fact, not even the wheat of 50 years ago. Doug Freyburger wrote: | | Being wheat intolerant myself I am biased against eating wheat. That | said I think the current wheat scare is mostly a veiled push for low | carbing in general. Blaming wheat gets people to eat less carbs and | most people do better with less carbs. | | The number of people who are wheat intolerant or gluten intolerant is | only a few percent of the population. Enough that it's vastly more | than the ones who know they have the issue. A percentage that is far | too small to tell people blindly to avoid wheat. | | My view is the current push against wheat gets a lot of people to | lower their carb intake. That helps a very large minority of the | population. Among them is a small percentage who benefit from | actually removing wheat rather than just from reducing carbs. | | It's not a bad approach but it misses the point that what is happening | in most cases is lower total carb intake and lower glycemic load. | Pick any high glycemic load food that's a sizable percentage of the | typical diet. Convince people to not have that. The result is good | because the typical diet is so high in carbs it's a problem. | Convincing people to drop sodas would generally have the same result. | | Simple minded, effective, beneificial, but based on an idea that | points in the wrong direction. | | One really good lesson - Glycemic load matters. Talk of "simple | versus complex carbs" has little to do with actually measuring | glycemic load. Very carby foods aren't beneficial in a culture that | has already pushed many of us to the point our bodies treat very | carby foods as problems. |
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On the evils of wheat
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:57:19 -0500, Jim wrote:
[..] One of the comments of Dr. Davis is that the glycemic index of whole wheat bread is a few points higher than that of white bread. Suggests that "Whole Grain" is not automatically healthy. Another one of his points is that the glycemic index of sugar is less than either white bread or whole grain bread. A phenomemon that can eassily be tested on oneself. n=1. -- Dogman |
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On the evils of wheat
Dogman wrote:
William Davis, a preventive cardiologist who practises in Milwaukee, Wis., argues in his new book Wheat Belly that wheat is bad for your health—so bad that it should carry a surgeon general’s warning. http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/20/o...ke-you-skinny/ Interesting that he mentions einkorn. I only know about that species of grain because it was found in the stomach contents of "Otsi the Iceman" the ancient frozen mummy that was discovered in the Apls in the 1990s. Einkorn is now obscure but was actively cultivated millennia ago. It's a gluten bearing grain but the gluten is different enough that it might not be harmful to wheat intolerant folks. I've tried spelt and kamut and those trigger symptoms in me. I've tried rye, barley and oats and those do not trigger symptoms in me. Everyone who has intolerance reactions can expect to get different results when doing personal experimentation. |
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On the evils of wheat
On Sep 21, 12:30*pm, Doug Freyburger wrote:
Dogman wrote: William Davis, a preventive cardiologist who practises in Milwaukee, Wis., argues in his new book Wheat Belly that wheat is bad for your health—so bad that it should carry a surgeon general’s warning. http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/20/o...t-why-it-is-so... Interesting that he mentions einkorn. *I only know about that species of grain because it was found in the stomach contents of "Otsi the Iceman" the ancient frozen mummy that was discovered in the Apls in the 1990s. Einkorn is now obscure but was actively cultivated millennia ago. *It's a gluten bearing grain but the gluten is different enough that it might not be harmful to wheat intolerant folks. *I've tried spelt and kamut and those trigger symptoms in me. *I've tried rye, barley and oats and those do not trigger symptoms in me. *Everyone who has intolerance reactions can expect to get different results when doing personal experimentation. Personally I can eat them all without intolerance. But I get fat and they spike the blood glucose and that includes all rices white and whole grain, millet, etc. Grains are animal food around my house. And even for the animals, I've been using more legumes. Which is something I need to do more research to get a handle as to whether this is a move towards a better diet. Understand my intake is rather limited. For the celiac folk, gluten often has ruined their health by the time the Docs get a bead on their patients problem. Better to know when one is a little kid than when one is 20 or 25 or 40 years of age. It does make wonder how early it can be found? This can run in families so if you have a cousin or sib with ailment watch out. |
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