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  #31  
Old September 3rd, 2004, 10:46 PM
marengo
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Carmen wrote:
| Hello folks,
| Life's been a bit busy lately, so yesterday I finally got a chance to
| sit down and catch up on ASDLC a bit. One thing that struck me is the
| abundance of "Nutrient/Factor X is the key!" "No, nutrient/factor Y
| is!" sort of arguments vis-a-vis metabolism.
|
| One benefit to being pre-med is that my education so far allows me to
| recognize I don't know even 1% of the metabolic pathways and how they
| work. Metabolism is a vast network of checks and balances. Although
| there are some basic principles that can be understood, the overall
| process is simply too overwhelming for even a very highly educated and
| intelligent person to fully assimilate - never mind us.
|
| In order to give those who want it some small sense of how complex the
| metabolic networks in the human body are - and how inextricably
| they're intertwined - I've found a link that may help. In many
| college biology classrooms there is a huge chart that is covered with
| tiny little arrows and text that represents human metabolic processes.
| This is a highly simplified version of the same thing. If you click
| on any of the text labels you'll be taken to yet another complex chart
| that represents the system you click on.
|
| I hope this helps.
|
| http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=mim&mapno=01100
|
| Take care,
| Carmen


I'm sure that the metabolic processes of the human body are, as you say ,
very intricate and complex.

But so is the engine and electical system of my car. I'm extremely
non-mechanically-minded and don't understand at all how or why all the
gadgets, bells and whistles work. (What the heck is the difference between
a carburetor and fuel injection, anyhow!?). Yet I keep my car in peak
performance by using high-grade fuel and getting regular maintenance by he
experts.

It's kind of what I do with my low-carb and supplement plan. I just know
what works for me and keeps my engine running -- sometimes from filtering
through the piles of conflicting advice, and sometimes by trial and error.
But I keep my car purring, and so far have kept my metabolic engine purring.
:-)

You're the ASDLC garage mechanic-in-training!

Peter
--
Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html


  #32  
Old September 3rd, 2004, 10:46 PM
marengo
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Carmen wrote:
| Hello folks,
| Life's been a bit busy lately, so yesterday I finally got a chance to
| sit down and catch up on ASDLC a bit. One thing that struck me is the
| abundance of "Nutrient/Factor X is the key!" "No, nutrient/factor Y
| is!" sort of arguments vis-a-vis metabolism.
|
| One benefit to being pre-med is that my education so far allows me to
| recognize I don't know even 1% of the metabolic pathways and how they
| work. Metabolism is a vast network of checks and balances. Although
| there are some basic principles that can be understood, the overall
| process is simply too overwhelming for even a very highly educated and
| intelligent person to fully assimilate - never mind us.
|
| In order to give those who want it some small sense of how complex the
| metabolic networks in the human body are - and how inextricably
| they're intertwined - I've found a link that may help. In many
| college biology classrooms there is a huge chart that is covered with
| tiny little arrows and text that represents human metabolic processes.
| This is a highly simplified version of the same thing. If you click
| on any of the text labels you'll be taken to yet another complex chart
| that represents the system you click on.
|
| I hope this helps.
|
| http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=mim&mapno=01100
|
| Take care,
| Carmen


I'm sure that the metabolic processes of the human body are, as you say ,
very intricate and complex.

But so is the engine and electical system of my car. I'm extremely
non-mechanically-minded and don't understand at all how or why all the
gadgets, bells and whistles work. (What the heck is the difference between
a carburetor and fuel injection, anyhow!?). Yet I keep my car in peak
performance by using high-grade fuel and getting regular maintenance by he
experts.

It's kind of what I do with my low-carb and supplement plan. I just know
what works for me and keeps my engine running -- sometimes from filtering
through the piles of conflicting advice, and sometimes by trial and error.
But I keep my car purring, and so far have kept my metabolic engine purring.
:-)

You're the ASDLC garage mechanic-in-training!

Peter
--
Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html


  #33  
Old September 3rd, 2004, 10:56 PM
FOB
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Compared to the human body a car is VERY simple. There is some physics
involved in getting top performance from it but the basics of getting it to
run are pretty simple.

In ,
marengo stated
|
|
| I'm sure that the metabolic processes of the human body are, as you
| say , very intricate and complex.
|
| But so is the engine and electical system of my car. I'm extremely
| non-mechanically-minded and don't understand at all how or why all the
| gadgets, bells and whistles work. (What the heck is the difference
| between a carburetor and fuel injection, anyhow!?). Yet I keep my car
| in peak performance by using high-grade fuel and getting regular
| maintenance by he experts.
|
| It's kind of what I do with my low-carb and supplement plan. I just
| know what works for me and keeps my engine running -- sometimes from
| filtering through the piles of conflicting advice, and sometimes by
| trial and error. But I keep my car purring, and so far have kept my
| metabolic engine purring. :-)
|
| You're the ASDLC garage mechanic-in-training!
|
| Peter
| --
| Peter
| 270/215/180
| Before/Current Pix:
| http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html


  #34  
Old September 3rd, 2004, 10:56 PM
FOB
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Compared to the human body a car is VERY simple. There is some physics
involved in getting top performance from it but the basics of getting it to
run are pretty simple.

In ,
marengo stated
|
|
| I'm sure that the metabolic processes of the human body are, as you
| say , very intricate and complex.
|
| But so is the engine and electical system of my car. I'm extremely
| non-mechanically-minded and don't understand at all how or why all the
| gadgets, bells and whistles work. (What the heck is the difference
| between a carburetor and fuel injection, anyhow!?). Yet I keep my car
| in peak performance by using high-grade fuel and getting regular
| maintenance by he experts.
|
| It's kind of what I do with my low-carb and supplement plan. I just
| know what works for me and keeps my engine running -- sometimes from
| filtering through the piles of conflicting advice, and sometimes by
| trial and error. But I keep my car purring, and so far have kept my
| metabolic engine purring. :-)
|
| You're the ASDLC garage mechanic-in-training!
|
| Peter
| --
| Peter
| 270/215/180
| Before/Current Pix:
| http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html


  #35  
Old September 3rd, 2004, 11:09 PM
Bob (this one)
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marengo wrote:

Carmen wrote:
| Hello folks,
| Life's been a bit busy lately, so yesterday I finally got a chance to
| sit down and catch up on ASDLC a bit. One thing that struck me is the
| abundance of "Nutrient/Factor X is the key!" "No, nutrient/factor Y
| is!" sort of arguments vis-a-vis metabolism.
|
| One benefit to being pre-med is that my education so far allows me to
| recognize I don't know even 1% of the metabolic pathways and how they
| work. Metabolism is a vast network of checks and balances. Although
| there are some basic principles that can be understood, the overall
| process is simply too overwhelming for even a very highly educated and
| intelligent person to fully assimilate - never mind us.
|
| In order to give those who want it some small sense of how complex the
| metabolic networks in the human body are - and how inextricably
| they're intertwined - I've found a link that may help. In many
| college biology classrooms there is a huge chart that is covered with
| tiny little arrows and text that represents human metabolic processes.
| This is a highly simplified version of the same thing. If you click
| on any of the text labels you'll be taken to yet another complex chart
| that represents the system you click on.
|
| I hope this helps.
|
| http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=mim&mapno=01100
|
| Take care,
| Carmen


I'm sure that the metabolic processes of the human body are, as you say,
very intricate and complex.


Vastly more complex than your car and the factory it was produced in
combined. Body includes literally thousands and thousands of
variables, some in the macro world, most micro, and many still being
discovered.

But so is the engine and electical system of my car. I'm extremely
non-mechanically-minded and don't understand at all how or why all the
gadgets, bells and whistles work. (What the heck is the difference between
a carburetor and fuel injection, anyhow!?). Yet I keep my car in peak
performance by using high-grade fuel and getting regular maintenance by he
experts.


Not even remotely comparable, Peter. I understand why you say this,
but it's a flawed comparison. Every one of the cars in that model and
year were ostensibly identical so there can be very easy statistical
experience that translates from one to another. Not that way in human
bodies.

It's kind of what I do with my low-carb and supplement plan. I just know
what works for me and keeps my engine running -- sometimes from filtering
through the piles of conflicting advice, and sometimes by trial and error.
But I keep my car purring, and so far have kept my metabolic engine purring.
:-)

You're the ASDLC garage mechanic-in-training!


She already has that white lab coat that I see more and more in
various garages.

Pastorio

  #36  
Old September 3rd, 2004, 11:09 PM
Bob (this one)
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marengo wrote:

Carmen wrote:
| Hello folks,
| Life's been a bit busy lately, so yesterday I finally got a chance to
| sit down and catch up on ASDLC a bit. One thing that struck me is the
| abundance of "Nutrient/Factor X is the key!" "No, nutrient/factor Y
| is!" sort of arguments vis-a-vis metabolism.
|
| One benefit to being pre-med is that my education so far allows me to
| recognize I don't know even 1% of the metabolic pathways and how they
| work. Metabolism is a vast network of checks and balances. Although
| there are some basic principles that can be understood, the overall
| process is simply too overwhelming for even a very highly educated and
| intelligent person to fully assimilate - never mind us.
|
| In order to give those who want it some small sense of how complex the
| metabolic networks in the human body are - and how inextricably
| they're intertwined - I've found a link that may help. In many
| college biology classrooms there is a huge chart that is covered with
| tiny little arrows and text that represents human metabolic processes.
| This is a highly simplified version of the same thing. If you click
| on any of the text labels you'll be taken to yet another complex chart
| that represents the system you click on.
|
| I hope this helps.
|
| http://www.genome.jp/dbget-bin/get_pathway?org_name=mim&mapno=01100
|
| Take care,
| Carmen


I'm sure that the metabolic processes of the human body are, as you say,
very intricate and complex.


Vastly more complex than your car and the factory it was produced in
combined. Body includes literally thousands and thousands of
variables, some in the macro world, most micro, and many still being
discovered.

But so is the engine and electical system of my car. I'm extremely
non-mechanically-minded and don't understand at all how or why all the
gadgets, bells and whistles work. (What the heck is the difference between
a carburetor and fuel injection, anyhow!?). Yet I keep my car in peak
performance by using high-grade fuel and getting regular maintenance by he
experts.


Not even remotely comparable, Peter. I understand why you say this,
but it's a flawed comparison. Every one of the cars in that model and
year were ostensibly identical so there can be very easy statistical
experience that translates from one to another. Not that way in human
bodies.

It's kind of what I do with my low-carb and supplement plan. I just know
what works for me and keeps my engine running -- sometimes from filtering
through the piles of conflicting advice, and sometimes by trial and error.
But I keep my car purring, and so far have kept my metabolic engine purring.
:-)

You're the ASDLC garage mechanic-in-training!


She already has that white lab coat that I see more and more in
various garages.

Pastorio

 




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