WHAT'S THIS? Atkins Revises the Diet!

he dies & they do this? if he wanted it changed he would've changed it,
i think.

the poster below saw a news crawl on fFOX and went searching for the
story. here it is

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Group:alt.discuss.clubs.public.health.diet.low_car b_diet
Date: Sat, Jan 17, 2004, 9:12pm (CST-2)
From: (Nancy=A08=A003)

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January 18,
2004
Make That Steak a Bit Smaller, Atkins Advises Today's Dieters By MARIAN
BURROS

After advising dieters for years to satisfy their hunger with liberal
amounts of steak, eggs and other saturated fats, the promoters of the
Atkins diet now say that people on their plan should limit the amount of
red meat and saturated fat they eat.

Responding to years of criticism from scientists that the Atkins version
of a low-carbohydrate, high-fat regimen might lead to heart disease and
other health problems, the director of research and education for Atkins
Nutritionals, Colette Heimowitz, is telling health professionals in
seminars around the country that only 20 percent of a dieter's calories
should come from saturated fat. Atkins Nutritionals was set up by Dr.
Robert C. Atkins to sell Atkins products and promote the diet. An Atkins
spokesman said Ms. Heimowitz has been giving these seminars for five
years, but that they do not represent a departure from the original
premise of the diet.

Atkins representatives say that Dr. Atkins, who died last year, always
maintained that people should eat other food besides red meat, but had
difficulty getting that message out. There has been a revision in
expressing how the diet should be followed, not in the diet itself, they
say.

But officials have not made the revision clear to consumers, and Atkins
is widely known as the diet that lets you eat all the meat you want. Dr.
Atkins did more than anyone else to popularize the idea that dieters
could eat fat and lose weight. As millions followed his advice, sales of
red meat soared and steakhouses grew in popularity. His book "Dr.
Atkins' New Diet Revolution" has sold 15 million copies. Atkins
Nutritionals reported $100 million in revenues for 2002.

The change comes as Atkins faces competition from other popular
low-carbohydrate diets that call for less saturated fat. A book on one
such plan, the South Beach Diet, came out in April 2003 and has sold
more than five million copies. Atkins representatives made the revision,
Ms. Heimowitz said, because "we want physicians to feel comfortable with
this diet, and we want people who are going to their physicians with
this diet to feel comfortable."

The Atkins regimen remains a high-fat diet. But Atkins officials are
specifying the amount that should be saturated ? the kind that comes
from meat, cheese and butter ? and the amount that should be unsaturated
? the kind that comes from most vegetable oils and fish. The revision
places more emphasis on fish and chicken.

Paul D. Wolff, chief executive of Atkins Nutritionals, said the company
is trying to get its message out clearly. "The way the book was promoted
was, here's the program that is counterintuitive," he said. " `You can
eat a lot of bacon and steak.=B4 It was the marketing of the book. The
media saw it as a sexy story."
"Perhaps what was communicated in the past was unclear," he said. "We
would agree with
that."

So why not tell people straight out that you can't eat all the steak and
eggs you want, Mr. Wolff was asked.

"Interesting question," he said as he hung up to catch a plane. The
clarification came as a surprise to Atkins dieters who were interviewed.
"A lot of people will be totally shocked," said Ellen Bain, a graphic
designer in Brooklyn. The message she said she had taken away from
reading Atkins books and Web sites was: "The fat in the diet is very
good for you; it doesn't make any difference what kind of fat it is.
There are no limits of any kind in the meat department, like steak and
eggs for breakfast, a burger for lunch and beef stir-fry for dinner."

Ms. Bain, who said she has lost 48 pounds on the Atkins diet since July
1, said, "Is it possible that now they are revising their thinking?"
Beef, pork, lamb and butter were on the list of "foods you may eat
liberally" in "The New Diet Revolution," first published in 1992; its
update is No. 1 on the New York Times advice, how-to and miscellaneous
paperback best-seller list.

"Atkins for Life," the newest book written by Dr. Atkins and published a
few months before his death last year, says: "You should always eat a
balance of different types of natural fat." The precise proportion of
saturated and unsaturated fat was unspecified, Ms. Heimowitz said,
because "trying to tell consumers to do math is futile." Russ Klein, a
marketing executive, who has been on Atkins since Dec. 21, interpreted
the phrase "foods you may eat liberally" to mean "eat until you are
full." And, he added, "I think it's probably true you can eat all the
red meat you want."

Ms. Heimowitz said people read the phrase "eat liberally" as a license
to gorge on red meat. "Not making a distinction between one kind of
protein and another, that was a mistake," Ms. Heimowitz, "and that is
why we had to write another book, to get the story straight." But, she
added, "Even in the old book it says `eat until you are satisfied but
not stuffed.=B4 "

Total fat in the revised Atkins diet remains much higher than other
diets recommend: 60 percent of the calories are still derived from fat,
twice the level recommended by the Agriculture Department. Of that,
one-third can be saturated fat ? also twice the level recommended by the
department. The rest should be poly- and mono-unsaturated fats. That
means that a person who eats 1,500 calories a day could eat a 17-ounce
strip steak every day, according to Mindy Hermann, a registered
dietitian.

After the diet's first phase, the amount of fat allowed drops to 55
percent, but the percentage of saturated fat stays the same. Dr. Atkins
said that carbohydrates caused obesity and eating fat helped regulate
levels of insulin, which helps produce body fat. Ms. Heimowitz said,
"Saturated fat isn't as much of an issue when carbohydrates are
controlled; it's only dangerous in excess when carbs are high."

But Dr. Frank M. Sacks, a professor of cardiovascular disease prevention
at the Harvard School of Public Health, scoffed at those scientific
claims. "What they are saying is ridiculous," he said. The revision, he
added, " has nothing to do with science; it has to do with public
relations and politics."

The medical establishment largely disputes Dr. Atkins's reasoning and
says that high levels of saturated fats are dangerous. Dr. George L.
Blackburn, associate director in the division of nutrition at Harvard
Medical School, said the diet's new version is "definitely healthier,"
but that "all of the studies we have on Atkins are based on the Atkins
of the 1970's: eat all you can as long as you keep carbs out."

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company


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**I have gone to find myself, if I should return before I get back, keep
me here.

witchy

Witchy Way wrote:
| he dies & they do this? if he wanted it changed he would've changed it,
| i think.

Read the article again. Absolutely nothing has changed in the Atkins plan.
The Atkins spokesperson SAID in the article that nothing has changed; that
it's just how the Atkins plan is marketed and the public's perception of it.

The article is basically the same old ho-hum Atkins bashing with a new
twist. Nothing to freak out about.

Nothing to see here, folks, keep moving ...

Peter

Atkins Nutritionals is just doing their usual thing of chasing whatever is
the currently bestselling diet and stealing their stuff. I have seen
nothing that suggests that AN is anything but a cynical money machine. They
changed Atkins advice about sugar alcohols so they could market products
with them. I bet they have some "low saturated fat" crap in the works now
that uses some cheap frankenfood additive to achieve it's ends.

As all of us know who have eaten a high fat,. low carb diet for years, our
heart attack risk factors all go down. This is really a kick in the balls
to low carb dieting and there is NO justification for it that I have seen
anywhere in any research.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Witchy Way" wrote in message
...
he dies & they do this? if he wanted it changed he would've changed it,
i think.

the poster below saw a news crawl on fFOX and went searching for the
story. here it is

................repost..........

Group:alt.discuss.clubs.public.health.diet.low_car b_diet
Date: Sat, Jan 17, 2004, 9:12pm (CST-2)
From: (Nancy 8 03)

I found this posted in another NG

..................
January 18,
2004
Make That Steak a Bit Smaller, Atkins Advises Today's Dieters By MARIAN
BURROS

After advising dieters for years to satisfy their hunger with liberal
amounts of steak, eggs and other saturated fats, the promoters of the
Atkins diet now say that people on their plan should limit the amount of
red meat and saturated fat they eat.

Responding to years of criticism from scientists that the Atkins version
of a low-carbohydrate, high-fat regimen might lead to heart disease and
other health problems, the director of research and education for Atkins
Nutritionals, Colette Heimowitz, is telling health professionals in
seminars around the country that only 20 percent of a dieter's calories
should come from saturated fat. Atkins Nutritionals was set up by Dr.
Robert C. Atkins to sell Atkins products and promote the diet. An Atkins
spokesman said Ms. Heimowitz has been giving these seminars for five
years, but that they do not represent a departure from the original
premise of the diet.

Atkins representatives say that Dr. Atkins, who died last year, always
maintained that people should eat other food besides red meat, but had
difficulty getting that message out. There has been a revision in
expressing how the diet should be followed, not in the diet itself, they
say.

But officials have not made the revision clear to consumers, and Atkins
is widely known as the diet that lets you eat all the meat you want. Dr.
Atkins did more than anyone else to popularize the idea that dieters
could eat fat and lose weight. As millions followed his advice, sales of
red meat soared and steakhouses grew in popularity. His book "Dr.
Atkins' New Diet Revolution" has sold 15 million copies. Atkins
Nutritionals reported $100 million in revenues for 2002.

The change comes as Atkins faces competition from other popular
low-carbohydrate diets that call for less saturated fat. A book on one
such plan, the South Beach Diet, came out in April 2003 and has sold
more than five million copies. Atkins representatives made the revision,
Ms. Heimowitz said, because "we want physicians to feel comfortable with
this diet, and we want people who are going to their physicians with
this diet to feel comfortable."

The Atkins regimen remains a high-fat diet. But Atkins officials are
specifying the amount that should be saturated ? the kind that comes
from meat, cheese and butter ? and the amount that should be unsaturated
? the kind that comes from most vegetable oils and fish. The revision
places more emphasis on fish and chicken.

Paul D. Wolff, chief executive of Atkins Nutritionals, said the company
is trying to get its message out clearly. "The way the book was promoted
was, here's the program that is counterintuitive," he said. " `You can
eat a lot of bacon and steak.´ It was the marketing of the book. The
media saw it as a sexy story."
"Perhaps what was communicated in the past was unclear," he said. "We
would agree with
that."

So why not tell people straight out that you can't eat all the steak and
eggs you want, Mr. Wolff was asked.

"Interesting question," he said as he hung up to catch a plane. The
clarification came as a surprise to Atkins dieters who were interviewed.
"A lot of people will be totally shocked," said Ellen Bain, a graphic
designer in Brooklyn. The message she said she had taken away from
reading Atkins books and Web sites was: "The fat in the diet is very
good for you; it doesn't make any difference what kind of fat it is.
There are no limits of any kind in the meat department, like steak and
eggs for breakfast, a burger for lunch and beef stir-fry for dinner."

Ms. Bain, who said she has lost 48 pounds on the Atkins diet since July
1, said, "Is it possible that now they are revising their thinking?"
Beef, pork, lamb and butter were on the list of "foods you may eat
liberally" in "The New Diet Revolution," first published in 1992; its
update is No. 1 on the New York Times advice, how-to and miscellaneous
paperback best-seller list.

"Atkins for Life," the newest book written by Dr. Atkins and published a
few months before his death last year, says: "You should always eat a
balance of different types of natural fat." The precise proportion of
saturated and unsaturated fat was unspecified, Ms. Heimowitz said,
because "trying to tell consumers to do math is futile." Russ Klein, a
marketing executive, who has been on Atkins since Dec. 21, interpreted
the phrase "foods you may eat liberally" to mean "eat until you are
full." And, he added, "I think it's probably true you can eat all the
red meat you want."

Ms. Heimowitz said people read the phrase "eat liberally" as a license
to gorge on red meat. "Not making a distinction between one kind of
protein and another, that was a mistake," Ms. Heimowitz, "and that is
why we had to write another book, to get the story straight." But, she
added, "Even in the old book it says `eat until you are satisfied but
not stuffed.´ "

Total fat in the revised Atkins diet remains much higher than other
diets recommend: 60 percent of the calories are still derived from fat,
twice the level recommended by the Agriculture Department. Of that,
one-third can be saturated fat ? also twice the level recommended by the
department. The rest should be poly- and mono-unsaturated fats. That
means that a person who eats 1,500 calories a day could eat a 17-ounce
strip steak every day, according to Mindy Hermann, a registered
dietitian.

After the diet's first phase, the amount of fat allowed drops to 55
percent, but the percentage of saturated fat stays the same. Dr. Atkins
said that carbohydrates caused obesity and eating fat helped regulate
levels of insulin, which helps produce body fat. Ms. Heimowitz said,
"Saturated fat isn't as much of an issue when carbohydrates are
controlled; it's only dangerous in excess when carbs are high."

But Dr. Frank M. Sacks, a professor of cardiovascular disease prevention
at the Harvard School of Public Health, scoffed at those scientific
claims. "What they are saying is ridiculous," he said. The revision, he
added, " has nothing to do with science; it has to do with public
relations and politics."

The medical establishment largely disputes Dr. Atkins's reasoning and
says that high levels of saturated fats are dangerous. Dr. George L.
Blackburn, associate director in the division of nutrition at Harvard
Medical School, said the diet's new version is "definitely healthier,"
but that "all of the studies we have on Atkins are based on the Atkins
of the 1970's: eat all you can as long as you keep carbs out."

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company



**I have gone to find myself, if I should return before I get back, keep
me here.

witchy

"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Atkins Nutritionals is just doing their usual thing of chasing whatever is
the currently bestselling diet and stealing their stuff. I have seen
nothing that suggests that AN is anything but a cynical money machine.
They
changed Atkins advice about sugar alcohols so they could market products
with them. I bet they have some "low saturated fat" crap in the works now
that uses some cheap frankenfood additive to achieve it's ends.

As all of us know who have eaten a high fat,. low carb diet for years, our
heart attack risk factors all go down. This is really a kick in the balls
to low carb dieting and there is NO justification for it that I have seen
anywhere in any research.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.

As extreme as you are Jenny, I tend to agree. I read the Atkins book and
feel Dr. Atkins way of eating it great, but all these products and the
amount of money to be made is too alluring for the current people in
command. I certainly don't eat all that crap that they put out and think it
will give Atkins a bad name in the end which IMHO is a shame. I follow
Atkins advice, but say I am on "low carb" because I can not associate myself
with an organization that produces so much crap. Sorry, if people need that
stuff to survive on the diet, but I would never eat that stuff. It can not
be good. I mean Dr. Atkins even went as far as mentioning nitrate free
bacon for goodness sake.

Just eating natural foods the way Dr. Atkins wanted at the start.
Curt

"Jenny" wrote in message
...
I bet they have some "low saturated fat" crap in the works now
that uses some cheap frankenfood additive to achieve it's ends.
As all of us know who have eaten a high fat,. low carb diet for years, our
heart attack risk factors all go down. This is really a kick in the balls
to low carb dieting and there is NO justification for it that I have seen
anywhere in any research.

LOL. Why not say what you really think? But I agree, there's absolutely
no need to eat these made up foods; I have a low carb diet, eat organic
foods as much as possible and *no* AN or other weird stuff. I watch weight,
body fat, cholesterol, triglicerides, all of which have improved
dramatically since I started reduced the carbs but I no longer say I'm on
Atkins.

As all of us know who have eaten a high fat,. low carb diet for years, our
heart attack risk factors all go down. This is really a kick in the balls
to low carb dieting and there is NO justification for it that I have seen
anywhere in any research.

Which is exactly why this new stand on things ****es me off. It's not going to
change MY mind about anything, but it might keep others who desperatley need
the correct information from getting the real help they need. That's just sad.


LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/237/140
& hubby- 310/266/180

marengo wrote:

Witchy Way wrote:
| he dies & they do this? if he wanted it changed he would've changed it,
| i think.

Read the article again. Absolutely nothing has changed in the Atkins plan.

Perhaps you should read it again. A new rule was added. Saturated fats
(from red meats, butter, cheese) should not exceed 20% of total
calories consumed. Atkins' books doesn't even break down saturated vs.
other kinds of fat in there carb counts. They treat fat as fat.

"the director of research and education for Atkins Nutritionals,
Colette Heimowitz, is telling health professionals in seminars around
the country that only 20 percent of a dieter's calories should come
from saturated fat."


DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)

DigitalVinyl wrote:
| Perhaps you should read it again. A new rule was added. Saturated fats
| (from red meats, butter, cheese) should not exceed 20% of total
| calories consumed. Atkins' books doesn't even break down saturated vs.
| other kinds of fat in there carb counts. They treat fat as fat.

No, YOU read it again. This is a quote from the article (except for the
asterisks):

"An Atkins spokesman said Ms. Heimowitz has been giving these seminars for
five
years, but that *they do not represent a departure from the original
premise of the diet.* Atkins representatives say that Dr. Atkins, who died
last year, always maintained that people should eat other food besides red
meat, but had
difficulty getting that message out. *There has been a revision in
expressing how the diet should be followed, not in the diet itself,* they
say."

The point is that anyone following the Atkins plan as descibed in DANDR
would not be eating more than 20% of their calories from saturated fat
anyway. Beliefs to the contrary have been propulgated by the same old lies,
fallacies and misconception that Atkins is a bacon and eggs diet with little
else. The Atkins center is merely trying to clarify this. In fact, this is
made very clear in the article.

I follow the Atkins plan pretty closely and never watch, count, or worry
about saturated fat vs unsaturated. Yet when plug my daily meals into
Fitday, I find that normally saturated fats are in fact less than 20% of my
daily calories. In fact, yesterday I did eat a 4-egg cheese omelet and 4
bacon strips for one of my meals, and my total saturated fat for the day was
just 21% of calories for the day! It is much less than this when I don't
have this meal.

Nothing has changed; it's just being expressed more clearly that Atkins is
not a high-saturated fat diet as % of daily calories. It never was, when
followed correctly. They have merely quantified this to make it more clear.
--
Peter
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

they are revising the diet and puting out all these premade foods. cereal,
pasta, chips etc. They had to wait for him to die NOT from his way of eating
but from a fall because I believe he wouldn't promote this.

just my 2 cents.

deb
Revolvers are for people who feel that more than six holes in an assailant is
excessive

On 18 Jan 2004 19:35:56 GMT, (DebsHonda) wrote:

they are revising the diet and puting out all these premade foods. cereal,
pasta, chips etc. They had to wait for him to die NOT from his way of eating
but from a fall because I believe he wouldn't promote this.

All of his mixes, breads, bars, ice cream, etc. were out before he
died. And all of the new things were obviously in development before
he died.

He wasn't a saint, he was a doc who figured out how to market a diet
and make a few millions. No one's forcing us to buy it.

Cheers,
Nina
Viva la Capitalism!
delicious! evil! calorie free!
http://www.theslack.com