??? on saturated fat????

Well once in a while I talk to people about their lifestyle and eating.
Now today I spoke with a young man who is a hockey player, and we
spoke about of course high carb and low carb. Now he does a low carb
diet, but mentioned that he keeps his saturated fat low, but his fat
average or high in general. He mentioned that he tries to aim for
things with less than 13 percent saturated fat and does not care about
the other fat (excluding trans) just assume he does not eat that. Now
here is where I am a moron and don't know nothing about saturated fat.
First off, will it benefit a low carb person to do this? Why? Is
saturated fat bad? What foods contain alot of saturated fat? Is
saturated fat bad for you? HELP? Thanks Marilyn

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Well once in a while I talk to people about their lifestyle and eating.
Now today I spoke with a young man who is a hockey player, and we
spoke about of course high carb and low carb. Now he does a low carb
diet, but mentioned that he keeps his saturated fat low, but his fat
average or high in general. He mentioned that he tries to aim for
things with less than 13 percent saturated fat and does not care about
the other fat (excluding trans) just assume he does not eat that. Now
here is where I am a moron and don't know nothing about saturated fat.
First off, will it benefit a low carb person to do this? Why? Is
saturated fat bad? What foods contain alot of saturated fat? Is
saturated fat bad for you? HELP? Thanks Marilyn

Google it, Marilyn. go to webmd or one of those sites.

It's a matter of opinion. A lot of low carbers only think it is harmful
when eaten with a lot of carbs. There are studies showing saturated fat
raises cholesterol but none of them were done in combination with a low
intake of carbs. The fact that low carb diets lower cholesterol for most
people including those who don't worry about saturated fat suggests that the
combination may be the problem, not the saturated fat alone.

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| Well once in a while I talk to people about their lifestyle and
| eating. Now today I spoke with a young man who is a hockey player,
| and we spoke about of course high carb and low carb. Now he does a
| low carb diet, but mentioned that he keeps his saturated fat low, but
| his fat average or high in general. He mentioned that he tries to
| aim for things with less than 13 percent saturated fat and does not
| care about the other fat (excluding trans) just assume he does not
| eat that. Now here is where I am a moron and don't know nothing
| about saturated fat. First off, will it benefit a low carb person to
| do this? Why? Is saturated fat bad? What foods contain alot of
| saturated fat? Is saturated fat bad for you? HELP? Thanks Marilyn

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Well once in a while I talk to people about their lifestyle and eating.
Now today I spoke with a young man who is a hockey player, and we
spoke about of course high carb and low carb. Now he does a low carb
diet, but mentioned that he keeps his saturated fat low, but his fat
average or high in general. He mentioned that he tries to aim for
things with less than 13 percent saturated fat and does not care about
the other fat (excluding trans) just assume he does not eat that. Now
here is where I am a moron and don't know nothing about saturated fat.
First off, will it benefit a low carb person to do this?

For loss, maybe. For health, maybe.

Why?

There have been studies that compare percentages of saturated
versus unsaturated fats in low carb dieters and the few studies
that exist suggest that the loss rate can be lower with softer fat
sources. Doesn't seem to be a big effect.

For health, there's the fact that certain polyunsaturated fats are
essential but saturated fats aren't - The human body can make its
own saturated fat and can convert one typ to another. Deal is,
once you have enough of the essential ones is more better?
Since the more part is just calories, whatever.

Is saturated fat bad?

Not for low carbers. It's only bad when combined with a high carb
diet.

What foods contain alot of saturated fat?

Saturated fat is the solid stuff. If it pours it is low in saturated.
If
it is all the way to waxy it is high in saturates. So figure soft
butter has a fair amount, stiff lard has more.

How would you trade for less saturated and more saturated fat?
Grill the meat and drain off the drippings, then replace with nut
oil or olive oil. Is it worth doing? Not for almost any low carber.

thanks all, and I know pat do the work!!! But I got doug to help me
out!! Thanks again !
Doug Freyburger wrote:
wrote:

Well once in a while I talk to people about their lifestyle and eating.
Now today I spoke with a young man who is a hockey player, and we
spoke about of course high carb and low carb. Now he does a low carb
diet, but mentioned that he keeps his saturated fat low, but his fat
average or high in general. He mentioned that he tries to aim for
things with less than 13 percent saturated fat and does not care about
the other fat (excluding trans) just assume he does not eat that. Now
here is where I am a moron and don't know nothing about saturated fat.
First off, will it benefit a low carb person to do this?

For loss, maybe. For health, maybe.

Why?

There have been studies that compare percentages of saturated
versus unsaturated fats in low carb dieters and the few studies
that exist suggest that the loss rate can be lower with softer fat
sources. Doesn't seem to be a big effect.

For health, there's the fact that certain polyunsaturated fats are
essential but saturated fats aren't - The human body can make its
own saturated fat and can convert one typ to another. Deal is,
once you have enough of the essential ones is more better?
Since the more part is just calories, whatever.

Is saturated fat bad?

Not for low carbers. It's only bad when combined with a high carb
diet.

What foods contain alot of saturated fat?

Saturated fat is the solid stuff. If it pours it is low in saturated.
If
it is all the way to waxy it is high in saturates. So figure soft
butter has a fair amount, stiff lard has more.

How would you trade for less saturated and more saturated fat?
Grill the meat and drain off the drippings, then replace with nut
oil or olive oil. Is it worth doing? Not for almost any low carber.

Go he http://www.mercola.com/

and type saturated fat in the Google search box at the tope of the page.

I personally don't think sat fat is bad unless combined with excessive carb
consumption. However, one still needs to be concerned about eating too much
fat because that generally means too many calories which translates to
getting fat (in general). That doesn't mean that fat makes you fat, though.
Too many calories (= too much food) will make you fat. Carbs make you
hungier, fat and protein don't.

Also keep in mind that a lot of people today stiill think meat fat is bad
(the main source of sat fat) and hence avoid it like the plague. But if
they consume a high carb diet, they probably should avoid it. Keep in mind
though that a lot of the studies done in the past which had high carb and
fat in the diet didn't make the distinction between sat fats and transfats.
And transfats have been in our diets for many years now, which all of the
refined/processed foods we eat. The problem really could be teh man-made
transfats moreso than the sat fats. Man has been messing with the food
supply and there is no good way to be sure that some of this hasn't been
harmful. More to the point, the feeding of livestock with grains has
resulted in increased fat in livestock. That also means their meat has more
sat fat than it would has livestock been allowed to grass, as intended by
nature.


wrote:
:: Well once in a while I talk to people about their lifestyle and
:: eating. Now today I spoke with a young man who is a hockey player,
:: and we spoke about of course high carb and low carb. Now he does a
:: low carb diet, but mentioned that he keeps his saturated fat low,
:: but his fat average or high in general. He mentioned that he tries
:: to aim for things with less than 13 percent saturated fat and does
:: not care about the other fat (excluding trans) just assume he does
:: not eat that. Now here is where I am a moron and don't know
:: nothing about saturated fat. First off, will it benefit a low carb
:: person to do this? Why? Is saturated fat bad? What foods contain
:: alot of saturated fat? Is saturated fat bad for you? HELP?
:: Thanks Marilyn

Zoulie,

Sometimes you are so good, you obviate the need to post.

-Hollywood

Roger Zoul wrote:
Go he http://www.mercola.com/

and type saturated fat in the Google search box at the tope of the page.

I personally don't think sat fat is bad unless combined with excessive carb
consumption. However, one still needs to be concerned about eating too much
fat because that generally means too many calories which translates to
getting fat (in general). That doesn't mean that fat makes you fat, though.
Too many calories (= too much food) will make you fat. Carbs make you
hungier, fat and protein don't.

Also keep in mind that a lot of people today stiill think meat fat is bad
(the main source of sat fat) and hence avoid it like the plague. But if
they consume a high carb diet, they probably should avoid it. Keep in mind
though that a lot of the studies done in the past which had high carb and
fat in the diet didn't make the distinction between sat fats and transfats.
And transfats have been in our diets for many years now, which all of the
refined/processed foods we eat. The problem really could be teh man-made
transfats moreso than the sat fats. Man has been messing with the food
supply and there is no good way to be sure that some of this hasn't been
harmful. More to the point, the feeding of livestock with grains has
resulted in increased fat in livestock. That also means their meat has more
sat fat than it would has livestock been allowed to grass, as intended by
nature.


wrote:
:: Well once in a while I talk to people about their lifestyle and
:: eating. Now today I spoke with a young man who is a hockey player,
:: and we spoke about of course high carb and low carb. Now he does a
:: low carb diet, but mentioned that he keeps his saturated fat low,
:: but his fat average or high in general. He mentioned that he tries
:: to aim for things with less than 13 percent saturated fat and does
:: not care about the other fat (excluding trans) just assume he does
:: not eat that. Now here is where I am a moron and don't know
:: nothing about saturated fat. First off, will it benefit a low carb
:: person to do this? Why? Is saturated fat bad? What foods contain
:: alot of saturated fat? Is saturated fat bad for you? HELP?
:: Thanks Marilyn

Hollywood,
Only Mu refers to me as Zoulie! You're not Mu are you?
Thanks for the kind comment.

Hollywood wrote:
:: Zoulie,
::
:: Sometimes you are so good, you obviate the need to post.
::
:: -Hollywood
::
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Go he http://www.mercola.com/
:::
::: and type saturated fat in the Google search box at the tope of the
::: page.
:::
::: I personally don't think sat fat is bad unless combined with
::: excessive carb consumption. However, one still needs to be
::: concerned about eating too much fat because that generally means
::: too many calories which translates to getting fat (in general).
::: That doesn't mean that fat makes you fat, though. Too many calories
::: (= too much food) will make you fat. Carbs make you hungier, fat
::: and protein don't.
:::
::: Also keep in mind that a lot of people today stiill think meat fat
::: is bad (the main source of sat fat) and hence avoid it like the
::: plague. But if they consume a high carb diet, they probably should
::: avoid it. Keep in mind though that a lot of the studies done in
::: the past which had high carb and fat in the diet didn't make the
::: distinction between sat fats and transfats. And transfats have been
::: in our diets for many years now, which all of the refined/processed
::: foods we eat. The problem really could be teh man-made transfats
::: moreso than the sat fats. Man has been messing with the food supply
::: and there is no good way to be sure that some of this hasn't been
::: harmful. More to the point, the feeding of livestock with grains
::: has resulted in increased fat in livestock. That also means their
::: meat has more sat fat than it would has livestock been allowed to
::: grass, as intended by nature.
:::
:::
::: wrote:
::::: Well once in a while I talk to people about their lifestyle and
::::: eating. Now today I spoke with a young man who is a hockey player,
::::: and we spoke about of course high carb and low carb. Now he does
::::: a low carb diet, but mentioned that he keeps his saturated fat
::::: low, but his fat average or high in general. He mentioned that
::::: he tries to aim for things with less than 13 percent saturated
::::: fat and does not care about the other fat (excluding trans) just
::::: assume he does not eat that. Now here is where I am a moron and
::::: don't know nothing about saturated fat. First off, will it
::::: benefit a low carb person to do this? Why? Is saturated fat
::::: bad? What foods contain alot of saturated fat? Is saturated
::::: fat bad for you? HELP? Thanks Marilyn

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Well once in a while I talk to people about their lifestyle and eating.
Now today I spoke with a young man who is a hockey player, and we
spoke about of course high carb and low carb. Now he does a low carb
diet, but mentioned that he keeps his saturated fat low, but his fat
average or high in general. He mentioned that he tries to aim for
things with less than 13 percent saturated fat and does not care about
the other fat (excluding trans) just assume he does not eat that. Now
here is where I am a moron and don't know nothing about saturated fat.
First off, will it benefit a low carb person to do this? Why? Is
saturated fat bad? What foods contain alot of saturated fat? Is
saturated fat bad for you? HELP? Thanks Marilyn


Do You Have a Fatty Brain?

If it is a healthy brain, it is a fatty brain.
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http://www.fi.edu/brain/fats.htm
From the Franklin Institute Science Museum.......

Fats Build Your Brain


No offense, but you have a fat head! About two-thirds of your brain is
composed of fats. But not just any kind.

Your brain cells require very specialized fats – the same ones that
built the brains of your prehistoric ancestors and enabled them to learn
and evolve at such a fast rate. These same fats are even now being
incorporated into the very structure of your brain.


Membranes – the Working Surface of Your Brain is Made from Fatty Acids


The membranes of neurons – the specialized brain cells that communicate
with each other – are composed of a thin double-layer of fatty acid
molecules. Fatty acids are what dietary fats are composed of. When you
digest the fat in your food, it is broken down into fatty acid molecules
of various lengths. Your brain then uses these for raw materials to
assemble the special types of fat it incorporates into its cell membranes.


Passing through a cell's membrane into its cell's interior are oxygen,
glucose (blood sugar), and the micronutrients the cell needs to
function. Metabolic waste products must exit, so the cell won't be
impaired by its own pollution.


Protective Myelin is 70% Fat


Myelin, the protective sheath that covers communicating neurons, is
composed of 30% protein and 70% fat. One of the most common fatty acids
in myelin is oleic acid, which is also the most abundant fatty acid in
human milk and in our diet.

Monosaturated oleic acid is the main component of olive oil as well as
the oils from almonds, pecans, macadamias, peanuts, and avocados.

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1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
book
4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

Doug Freyburger wrote:
wrote:

Is saturated fat bad?

Not for low carbers. It's only bad when combined with a high carb
diet.

One thing that Dr Atkins wrote in his books is that about 80% of
folks see improved cholesterol 6 months in (1993/1999 editions)
and over 50% see it 2 months in. That plus most see short term
increases very early on so testing before 8 weeks isn't encouraged.

That still leaves that 20% who don't see improved cholesterol
numbers. Since cholesterol is linked with saturated fat in folks
on high carb diets i's worth trying to lower saturated fat if you're
in that 20% and see if it helps. But the time to try that is after
6 full months.

How would you trade for less saturated and more saturated fat?
Grill the meat and drain off the drippings, then replace with nut
oil or olive oil. Is it worth doing? Not for almost any low carber.

On the other hand there's almost no downside to doing it.