Calories burned question

OK, I know that we have said that exercise equipment gives bad feed back
on calories burned but still, I have to ask. Do you really burn more
calories on an elliptical machine than when running? For example:

Yesterday
52 minutes on elliptical machine (50 minutes + 2 minute cool down)
machine read 829 calories burned

Tuesday
running on treadmill (6 mph, 4.5 miles plus .25 mile cool down)
machine read 485 calories for run and 20 additional for cool down

Now, I understand that you are probably pushing more weight on the
elliptical than when running but that is a pretty significant difference.

FWIW, the running reading seems more or less accurate (100 cals per mile
+ some extra because of the hills in random).
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jmk in NC

"jmk" wrote in message
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OK, I know that we have said that exercise equipment gives bad feed back
on calories burned but still, I have to ask. Do you really burn more
calories on an elliptical machine than when running? For example:

Yesterday
52 minutes on elliptical machine (50 minutes + 2 minute cool down)
machine read 829 calories burned

Tuesday
running on treadmill (6 mph, 4.5 miles plus .25 mile cool down)
machine read 485 calories for run and 20 additional for cool down

Now, I understand that you are probably pushing more weight on the
elliptical than when running but that is a pretty significant difference.

FWIW, the running reading seems more or less accurate (100 cals per mile
+ some extra because of the hills in random).
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jmk in NC

http://www.healthstatus.com/cgi-bin/calc/calculator.cgi

According to this site:
30 minutes on elliptical...................387 calories
30 minutes running 6 mph..............342 calories

I figured this on my weight. I think many machines give a high reading on
calories burned.

I tried www.caloriesperhour.com but there comments under elliptical were
'awaiting study data'.

Beverly

On 2/19/2004 9:49 AM, Beverly wrote:
"jmk" wrote in message
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OK, I know that we have said that exercise equipment gives bad feed back
on calories burned but still, I have to ask. Do you really burn more
calories on an elliptical machine than when running? For example:

Yesterday
52 minutes on elliptical machine (50 minutes + 2 minute cool down)
machine read 829 calories burned

Tuesday
running on treadmill (6 mph, 4.5 miles plus .25 mile cool down)
machine read 485 calories for run and 20 additional for cool down

Now, I understand that you are probably pushing more weight on the
elliptical than when running but that is a pretty significant difference.

FWIW, the running reading seems more or less accurate (100 cals per mile
+ some extra because of the hills in random).
--
jmk in NC


http://www.healthstatus.com/cgi-bin/calc/calculator.cgi

According to this site:
30 minutes on elliptical...................387 calories
30 minutes running 6 mph..............342 calories

I figured this on my weight. I think many machines give a high reading on
calories burned.

Well, I was sort of figuring that the amounts listed were for flat, no
resistance, working high "fat burn"/ low "cardio." If you select random
and add a fairly significant resistance and are working high in the
"cardio" range (80-85%), I would think you'd burn more, no?

Sorry, I just find this to be confusing :-/.


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jmk in NC

On 2/19/2004 9:52 AM, Ignoramus7266 wrote:
In article , jmk wrote:

OK, I know that we have said that exercise equipment gives bad feed back
on calories burned but still, I have to ask. Do you really burn more
calories on an elliptical machine than when running? For example:

Yesterday
52 minutes on elliptical machine (50 minutes + 2 minute cool down)
machine read 829 calories burned

Tuesday
running on treadmill (6 mph, 4.5 miles plus .25 mile cool down)
machine read 485 calories for run and 20 additional for cool down

Now, I understand that you are probably pushing more weight on the
elliptical than when running but that is a pretty significant difference.

FWIW, the running reading seems more or less accurate (100 cals per mile
+ some extra because of the hills in random).


Your relative heart rate is going to be a good indication of which
machine makes you spend more calories. To burn energy, your
mitochondria needs oxygen, which can only be carried to them by
blood. So, the more oxygen burned, the more blood flow. Hence my
suggestion to compare heart rates.

Yeah, I really need to get that HRM :-( On the elliptical machine it
says that I should be dead. I am at the 87% range most of the time. On
the treadmill, I don't get a reading until cooldown when I put my hands
down. I have the elliptical set at "hillier" than the treadmill --
mostly because I'm a lot more used to it.

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jmk in NC

On 2/19/2004 10:14 AM, Ignoramus7266 wrote:
In article , jmk wrote:

On 2/19/2004 9:52 AM, Ignoramus7266 wrote:

In article , jmk wrote:


OK, I know that we have said that exercise equipment gives bad feed back
on calories burned but still, I have to ask. Do you really burn more
calories on an elliptical machine than when running? For example:

Yesterday
52 minutes on elliptical machine (50 minutes + 2 minute cool down)
machine read 829 calories burned

Tuesday
running on treadmill (6 mph, 4.5 miles plus .25 mile cool down)
machine read 485 calories for run and 20 additional for cool down

Now, I understand that you are probably pushing more weight on the
elliptical than when running but that is a pretty significant difference.

FWIW, the running reading seems more or less accurate (100 cals per mile
+ some extra because of the hills in random).


Your relative heart rate is going to be a good indication of which
machine makes you spend more calories. To burn energy, your
mitochondria needs oxygen, which can only be carried to them by
blood. So, the more oxygen burned, the more blood flow. Hence my
suggestion to compare heart rates.

Yeah, I really need to get that HRM :-( On the elliptical machine it
says that I should be dead. I am at the 87% range most of the time. On
the treadmill, I don't get a reading until cooldown when I put my hands
down. I have the elliptical set at "hillier" than the treadmill --
mostly because I'm a lot more used to it.



Well, you can always try to count your heart rate with the help of a
watch and your fingers... it is not that difficult.

While running? I don't think so -- unless you want me to fall off the
machine! ;-)

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jmk in NC

thanks for the links. they are great.

paul
300/219/175

"jmk" wrote in message
...
OK, I know that we have said that exercise equipment gives bad feed back
on calories burned but still, I have to ask. Do you really burn more
calories on an elliptical machine than when running? For example:

Yesterday
52 minutes on elliptical machine (50 minutes + 2 minute cool down)
machine read 829 calories burned

Tuesday
running on treadmill (6 mph, 4.5 miles plus .25 mile cool down)
machine read 485 calories for run and 20 additional for cool down

Now, I understand that you are probably pushing more weight on the
elliptical than when running but that is a pretty significant difference.

FWIW, the running reading seems more or less accurate (100 cals per mile
+ some extra because of the hills in random).
--
jmk in NC