Diet in (semi) crisis - Calories, Exercise, Points and what to do now...

I know vie seen it and it seems that the calories are 70 but I don't
remember the rest, Lee, glad to see you post again
ath wrote in message
...

Will ~ I think you have misunderstood me.
I do go to a weekly meeting in Epping England.... and pay.

I was just curious about the different way that WW formulates the points
in different
countries. In the US fiber is taken into account, whereas that's not
the case in the UK.
I had already seen the formula for US points and wondered whether anyone
knows the formula
for UK points.

Anne H.





"Willow Herself" wrote in
message t...
How about going to a meeting and actually pay for the program?
Will~

"ath" wrote in message
...

BTW, a general rule of thumb is 1 point per 50 calories. Here is
the
exact formula:

points= [calories + (4 * fat grams) - (10 * fiber grams)] / 50 with
a
maxium of 4 fiber grams allowed.


This works for US... but does anyone have the formula for UK points
please?

Thanks Anne H.

Thanks.
Yes, 70 calories, that seems to ring a bell... I'll have a more detailed
look around the web, I'm sure the (UK) points info is out there
somewhere!

Anne H.


"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
I know vie seen it and it seems that the calories are 70 but I don't
remember the rest, Lee, glad to see you post again


ath wrote in message
...

Will ~ I think you have misunderstood me.
I do go to a weekly meeting in Epping England.... and pay.

I was just curious about the different way that WW formulates the
points
in different
countries. In the US fiber is taken into account, whereas that's
not
the case in the UK.
I had already seen the formula for US points and wondered whether
anyone
knows the formula
for UK points.

Anne H.





"Willow Herself" wrote
in
message t...
How about going to a meeting and actually pay for the program?
Will~

"ath" wrote in message
...

BTW, a general rule of thumb is 1 point per 50 calories. Here
is
the
exact formula:

points= [calories + (4 * fat grams) - (10 * fiber grams)] / 50
with
a
maxium of 4 fiber grams allowed.


This works for US... but does anyone have the formula for UK
points
please?

Thanks Anne H.

I seem to remember that when I read it before something in the post had to
do with patents... not sure if that was US or UK, Lee
ath wrote in message
...

Thanks.
Yes, 70 calories, that seems to ring a bell... I'll have a more detailed
look around the web, I'm sure the (UK) points info is out there
somewhere!

Anne H.


"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
I know vie seen it and it seems that the calories are 70 but I don't
remember the rest, Lee, glad to see you post again


ath wrote in message
...

Will ~ I think you have misunderstood me.
I do go to a weekly meeting in Epping England.... and pay.

I was just curious about the different way that WW formulates the
points
in different
countries. In the US fiber is taken into account, whereas that's
not
the case in the UK.
I had already seen the formula for US points and wondered whether
anyone
knows the formula
for UK points.

Anne H.





"Willow Herself" wrote
in
message t...
How about going to a meeting and actually pay for the program?
Will~

"ath" wrote in message
...

BTW, a general rule of thumb is 1 point per 50 calories. Here
is
the
exact formula:

points= [calories + (4 * fat grams) - (10 * fiber grams)] / 50
with
a
maxium of 4 fiber grams allowed.


This works for US... but does anyone have the formula for UK
points
please?

Thanks Anne H.

On Apr 20, 7:05 pm, "Laura" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...



On Apr 14, 4:32 am, Kate XXXXXX
wrote:
doug lerner wrote:
I honestly don't understand what's happening anymore. I swear I'm not
doing anything differenly than I've been doing these past 680 days,
but my weight is just creeping up...

After my Core experiment, when weight zoomed up from 81 kg to like
84.8, it started coming down again, slowly, when I went back to strict
calorie counting.

But then it hovered at 84.4 for a couple of weeks and for some reason
this morning jumped to 85.8 kg!

What is happening?

I am not sure what to try at this point. Naturally, no matter what I
do, I will not exceed my daily calorie limit of 1700, but I feel I
need to change something already.

This is getting very depressing.

The problem is that I might simply need to eat fewer calories per day.
Like maybe 1300 or 1400 instead of 1700. Maybe my metabolism has just
slowed down.

But I feel like a big change in calorie rules would be "setting me up
for a big fall" if I suddenly tried even harder calorie restrictions.

Nevertheless, looking at what WW would allocate to me, point-wise, it
came to just 28 points/day (which I calculated during my free one-week
online trial). That is about 1400 calories/day. Of course WW has those
35 free points per week, which comes to about 1750 calories, whereas I
am giving myself just 1000.

Mammoth amounts of exercise per day are also just not realistic. I
know me. If I do 30 minutes to an hour of walking a day I feel I've
done well.

Any diet plan has to be something that can be reasonably followed -
forever. If it is too cumbersome, then I know I would fall off the
wagon.

Speaking of exercise, WW also calculates exercise points differently
than I do. I have been giving myself full calorie credit for all
exercise and deducting exercise calories from calories I've eaten -
and have allowed myself to carry this over all week, until I reset. I
believe in WW you have to "use them or lose them" the day you do your
exercise, right? Also, I don't think WW gives you full credit towards
eating points for the exercise you do - doesn't come to like half,
calorie-wise?

Anyway, conservation of energy is conservation of energy. It's either
less calories and/or more exercise. I know it. But I don't know if I
really have the will power to make a radical change in a plan I've
been able to stay on so long now without going off even one time...

So I'm up against reality.

But... it is definitely time for a diet tweak of some kind...

doug

Doug, presuming that you are sitting most of the day in the office, on
the UK system you'd be on 28 points per day only: NO flex points on our
system! Then you can earn as many exercise points as you like in the
week, but you may only consume 14 of them: the rest go down to weight
loss. And you can consume those points at any time in the week, not
just on the day you earn them, so you can save them up for a party or
meal out if you like!

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate
Buttonshttp://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Quick question: does anybody here know how many ww points the hostess
100 calorie packs are?

I believe they are 2 points.

BTW, a general rule of thumb is 1 point per 50 calories. Here is the exact
formula:

points= [calories + (4 * fat grams) - (10 * fiber grams)] / 50 with a maxium
of 4 fiber grams allowed.


Thanks for the info! The Hostess 100 cal snacks are delicious and I'm
glad they are low in points

On Apr 20, 7:05 pm, "Laura" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...



On Apr 14, 4:32 am, Kate XXXXXX
wrote:
doug lerner wrote:
I honestly don't understand what's happening anymore. I swear I'm not
doing anything differenly than I've been doing these past 680 days,
but my weight is just creeping up...

After my Core experiment, when weight zoomed up from 81 kg to like
84.8, it started coming down again, slowly, when I went back to strict
calorie counting.

But then it hovered at 84.4 for a couple of weeks and for some reason
this morning jumped to 85.8 kg!

What is happening?

I am not sure what to try at this point. Naturally, no matter what I
do, I will not exceed my daily calorie limit of 1700, but I feel I
need to change something already.

This is getting very depressing.

The problem is that I might simply need to eat fewer calories per day.
Like maybe 1300 or 1400 instead of 1700. Maybe my metabolism has just
slowed down.

But I feel like a big change in calorie rules would be "setting me up
for a big fall" if I suddenly tried even harder calorie restrictions.

Nevertheless, looking at what WW would allocate to me, point-wise, it
came to just 28 points/day (which I calculated during my free one-week
online trial). That is about 1400 calories/day. Of course WW has those
35 free points per week, which comes to about 1750 calories, whereas I
am giving myself just 1000.

Mammoth amounts of exercise per day are also just not realistic. I
know me. If I do 30 minutes to an hour of walking a day I feel I've
done well.

Any diet plan has to be something that can be reasonably followed -
forever. If it is too cumbersome, then I know I would fall off the
wagon.

Speaking of exercise, WW also calculates exercise points differently
than I do. I have been giving myself full calorie credit for all
exercise and deducting exercise calories from calories I've eaten -
and have allowed myself to carry this over all week, until I reset. I
believe in WW you have to "use them or lose them" the day you do your
exercise, right? Also, I don't think WW gives you full credit towards
eating points for the exercise you do - doesn't come to like half,
calorie-wise?

Anyway, conservation of energy is conservation of energy. It's either
less calories and/or more exercise. I know it. But I don't know if I
really have the will power to make a radical change in a plan I've
been able to stay on so long now without going off even one time...

So I'm up against reality.

But... it is definitely time for a diet tweak of some kind...

doug

Doug, presuming that you are sitting most of the day in the office, on
the UK system you'd be on 28 points per day only: NO flex points on our
system! Then you can earn as many exercise points as you like in the
week, but you may only consume 14 of them: the rest go down to weight
loss. And you can consume those points at any time in the week, not
just on the day you earn them, so you can save them up for a party or
meal out if you like!

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate
Buttonshttp://www.katedicey.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Quick question: does anybody here know how many ww points the hostess
100 calorie packs are?

I believe they are 2 points.

BTW, a general rule of thumb is 1 point per 50 calories. Here is the exact
formula:

points= [calories + (4 * fat grams) - (10 * fiber grams)] / 50 with a maxium
of 4 fiber grams allowed.

mmmm I thought I posted a comment here yesterday perhaps it didn't go
through.....Anyways thanks for the info. It's good to know that that
the hostess 100 cal snacks are also low in WW points. I was on
YoutTube yesterday and I found another person who likes the chocolate
ones as much as I do....haha it's pretty funny!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=umP7uhP_eLI