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"SusanLewis" wrote in message ... I dunno Dally, I've gotten discouraged just recently. Yes my loss has been life changing, awesome yadda yadda blahblahblah, but I also realized the honeymoon is over for me. The real work begins now. The last 50 some odd lbs are not going to just drop off of me like magic and frankly it's scary. I find myself more often than I'd like wondering what it would be like not walking everyday, what it would be like to go on and eat that big plate of enchiladas rice and beans with a few flour tortillias slathered in butter and a big glass of sugar sweetened ice tea. I keep repeating to myself "nothing taste as good as thin feels" but ya know.. I'm not thin yet and nothing tastes good anyways. So what's the point? And the bitch about it all is, I KNOW this is negative thinking, I of all people know this type of thinking will not get results that I want for the long term. I just wonder if I am up to the challenge of the last 50 or not. Maybe you should plan yourself an enchilada dinner if that's what you're craving. One thing I learned from Chris's food logs and her success is that you shouldn't put your entire life on hold. Just make it or go out for it and then back to the "norm" afterward. It's not like once you reach maintenance you're going to be able to eat all of that stuff all of the time anyway. I went out with friends this weekend unexpectedly and consciously decided to relax and go "off plan" knowing that I'd wake up the next morning raring to go back to my healthier WOE and with a killer hangover... It takes me about 2 days to get over the cravings and until then I just plan for a few more frequent small meals of the stuff I normally eat 'til I get normal again. Ya know, sometimes I really wonder if I am hanging on to the last 50 for some reason. Why am I not as excited and encouraged as I was when I started this? The novelty wears off? The changes you've made haven't had as much of an impact on your overall life as you'd hoped? (just a few suggestions, certainly not trying to imply anything) Is my fat a security for me? If you haven't read Fattitudes, you might want to take a look at that. It does address these issues. I've *never* been ideal weight, what is it going to be like, will I like it there, or what if I get obsessive and go too thin? It freaked me out to be at a place in my life where I was "normal" or "average" or whatever it was I didn't have to worry about my weight anymore - that's hard after almost 30 years of it being at the forefront of my existence. The obsessive thing I went through last Sept-Nov. I was never at an ideal weight, even as a child. I had no idea what it would be like. As I got closer to my goal, I wanted to change it and make it lower. I surpassed my first two goal weights and continued to lose, all the while thinking it was *fabulous* that the scale kept going down. It didn't matter that you could count my vertebrae rather easily and that without clothes I looked disgusting and my husband was completely turned off to me. All that mattered was that I was thin and getting thinner and I looked great in a miniskirt (if I wore tights) - how cool is that?!? I actually got to a point where a doctor refused to perform surgery that I needed (not life or death but still needed) until I gained some weight. So, yes, it's definitely a possibility. How to stop it? I dunno for sure. As it stands now, DH is definitely not going to stay quiet if I get near too thin again, plus as I get down near where I think I want to weigh I will be consulting with my current doctor who has proven to have my best interest at heart. Oh, and I have a faboo group of pals (on and offline) who I've given permission to give me hell if it appears that I'm headed in that direction again. I'm choosing not to play around with anorexia again. Then theres the skin issue to deal with when I do actually make my goal. How is looking at that skin hanging there gonna affect me everyday? I got used to it. Weightlifting and time help as does losing slowly, but age and genetics are the primary factors. It's more noticeable to you than to others if that helps. Most people never notice my arm skin like I do and only DH makes reference to the leg stuff. I do plan on surgery once I've maintained a stable weight for 2 years. Is there some emotional or mental hangup I need to address before I can make the decision to get it the heck off me? I want to fit into my size 14's(which I justify with the fact of my size 12 kid cant even get in them, so they are not really "14's") and I've worked so hard and I STILL dont fit in them. That fact alone simply ****es me off (lol, I sound like such a whiner and crazy to boot). Maybe I need to take a break and re evaluate things. Maybe I need to work harder and read more than I am now. I just don't know. Suggestions/advice appreciated. I do recommend the Fattitudes book. It will help you get your mind together a little more. Maybe you do need a break where you work at simply maintaining your current position, otherwise I'd shake up the exercise routine and try something new. That usually motivates me. Anyways That's where I stand. Fat and flabby as it may be. Susan 280/187/140 You're probably a lot less fat and flabby to others that you appear to yourself You've done a fantastic job and almost reached the century mark! IIRC you're kind of tall, aren't you? Hang in there! Jenn |
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"Ignoramus8546" wrote in message ... Susan, you already lost 28% of your weight, that is an incredible amount and much more than what most people are able to do. Many people who lose this much, regain their weight. There is something about losing weight that makes our bodies fight back. Funny how when I said that 9 months ago, you said I was in denial of reality and that I was making maintenance harder than it had to be. Took you long enough to figure it out. Jenn |
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"Dally" wrote: Good questions. I guess my first question would be are you really as far as 50 pounds from your goal? Do you have any idea what your body fat percentage is? I'm aiming for 23% and I'm at 26% body fat and 26% body fat is chunky and curvy and has blubber on the thighs... but really isn't obese. It might just be good enough for me for now. I think a refeed is in order, although I had the cheeseburger experience the other night that left me with a carb hangover from hell. I think I am going to do the enchilada thing tonight and see if I can get that off my mind. I also think I need to set some mini goals for myself on my actual intake example.. to make sure I'm getting enough good fats each day and protein etc, because as it stands right now all I am really focusing on is 0 sugar, calories and carbs. It's time for me to start looking at this from a health/nutrient aspect rather than just a weightloss one. Not that it has totally been only weightloss driven. But that has been main. It sounds like you've climbed inside my head. All I can tell you is that "practicing maintenance for a while" is a nice term that works on the people who ask why I'm eating ice cream. :-) Dontcha love the food police? But not as fat and flabby as you used to be. Give yourself a pat on the back and be open to the idea that there's always a new challenge to work on. It sounds like the "repeat, forever" parts of the plan need some attention. :-) Dally 244/175/168 Agreed and I know I am my own worst critic as well. I think I need to hang tight for a little while and maybe even go back to babysteps(measuring, portion cups, fitday like it was a religion etc) like I did a year ago. I also think you mentioned the Fattitudes book like Jenn did in this same thread - I will pick a copy up this week. I need something like that that deals with the mental emotional side of changing your eating lifestyle. As far as my bf% is concerned I wouldn't have the first clue to what it was - I told myself in the beginning of my new life I was not going to get caught up in the #'s but maybe it's time for that to change as well.(see Annabel? constantly re-learning/changing ones mind...) How do I figure/find that out? Thanks for responding Susan 280/187/140 |
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"JMA" wrote in message ... Maybe you should plan yourself an enchilada dinner if that's what you're craving. One thing I learned from Chris's food logs and her success is that you shouldn't put your entire life on hold. Just make it or go out for it and then back to the "norm" afterward. It's not like once you reach maintenance you're going to be able to eat all of that stuff all of the time anyway. Gonna, tonight in fact. I called my husband and told him "you're taking me to have mexican food tonight" LOL The novelty wears off? The changes you've made haven't had as much of an impact on your overall life as you'd hoped? (just a few suggestions, certainly not trying to imply anything) I think in the beginning we all are a little disillusioned as to what Thin will be like(especially for those of us who never were there) We see thin/fit women and we think "man she has a great life" But I am learning it's not always the case. Thin ppl have mortgages, bratty kids, pay too much for car insurance and bitches for mother-in-laws same as overweight folks do. Learning that was a little bit of a letdown for me I guess. I can't say it hasn't gotten ALOT better for me lifestyle wise, because it has. But a new inground pool would have been nice lol. If you haven't read Fattitudes, you might want to take a look at that. It does address these issues. Will do, this week. Jenn stuff snipped I'm glad your back in a good place for you Jenn. I know that I like reading your posts *alot* more now than I did during your thing you went thru back then You seem like a sane reasonable person again You're probably a lot less fat and flabby to others that you appear to yourself You've done a fantastic job and almost reached the century mark! IIRC you're kind of tall, aren't you? Hang in there! Jenn I am kinda tall, 5'9 and busty, maybe my goal is set too low and I need to focus on some mini-goals for awhile - Thanks again for responding and for the support. Susan 280/187/140 |
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"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message ... Sorry, but I'm sick of know-it-all Americans telling me how I should or shouldn't eat when they know nothing of me, or my lifestyle, or even how British people normally eat. I am a well traveled citizen of the USA who has lived overseas many years when I was coming up. Know what I hate? Citizens of other countries making broad generalizations about 'Americans'. First of all, North America has two very large countries that operate independently of each other. Then you get central America and South America. We are all Americans. We are not all 'know it all Americans'. I fail to see how where my passport was issued makes me a know it all. Next, if you ever spent time in this fine country, you might learn a few things. The USA is a huge country. In the South, it is warm and balmy. Almost tropical. We are slow, laid back and talk with an accent. We love food. No social event (even a funeral) is NOT planned around food. Status for women is derived on how well they feed their loved ones. Cooking is an art down here. We don't eat to get by. Some of my usenet friends don't quite get why I can't just regard food as fuel. They have not lived down south. The East Coast is so much fun even though I haven't been there in years. The energy is contagious. It seems to me that the entire East Coast is connected by trains and planes. It is not unusual for someone to live in one state and work in another. They are far more formal than we are in the South. Even in their dress, they always appear to be doing something really important. After all, in the South, we wear ties for board meetings, funerals, etc. They wear them because it is expected. Food is not important on the East Coast. People have other things to do. The West Coast is so cool. You cannot be on the West Coast without at least wanting to be cool. It is the home to many, many creative minds. There is always someone to accept you on the West Coast unless you are simply too politically conservative. Sunshine and beaches makes everyone health conscious. Ideas are the currency of the West Coast. I like that. There is no food to speak of on the West Coast. It is coffee shops and restaurants that serve minute portions of whatever. And there are other little spots. Las Vegas - a place I never wanted to go was the site of a conference a couple of years ago. I went back voluntarily with a girl friend. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. It is an adult playground with no rules. I also won a lot of money so that was cool. I lived in the mountains for a while in Washington State. I also got to see Idaho and Montana quite frequently. These are places where being rural doesn't equate to being 'red-necked'. People who live in those states wake up every morning to snow capped mountains and wheat fields. It is so beautiful. The people in those states are rather reserved but so warm once they get to know you. I suspect it is the same way in Great Britain. And I have lived in Australia where food, frankly, is bad. I never had a weight problem there but it never occurred to anyone to fry cheese and then dip in ranch dressing. I lived in Jamaica where you ate what was available. Jerk chicken is still one of my favorite meals. I have been to many other countries and love noting how they live and what they have in common with us. One thing I know for sure. There are universal truths about people and their are cultural differences. I never judge a person on the latter. To be angry at a Brit is one thing. To refer to 'know it all brits' would be just rude. I know too many of your fellow citizens to make that mistake. Oh, and when you post your food log, we sort of know how you eat. And regardless of your nationality, it is how you normally eat - not how the british eat. j I'll lose weight the way I did the first time, before Usenet was ever invented, all by myself. Good bye. -- Annabel - "Mrs Redboots" 90/88/80kg Sorry to see you go, Annabel. I thought you were very helpful with your suggestion to me in my "Settled into new Environment" posts. It's a pity that you haven't found the group as helpful for you. Good luck on your "solo" effort. Tonia |
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julianne wrote:
The East Coast is so much fun even though I haven't been there in years. The energy is contagious. It seems to me that the entire East Coast is connected by trains and planes. It is not unusual for someone to live in one state and work in another. They are far more formal than we are in the South. Even in their dress, they always appear to be doing something really important. After all, in the South, we wear ties for board meetings, funerals, etc. They wear them because it is expected. Food is not important on the East Coast. If you've ever seen us Marylanders attack a picnic table full of steamed blue crabs and oysters on the halfshell, you'd know that's not true. -- PL (320/309/170) (First mini-goal: 299) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 8/17/2004 |
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"PL" wrote in message ... julianne wrote: The East Coast is so much fun even though I haven't been there in years. The energy is contagious. It seems to me that the entire East Coast is connected by trains and planes. It is not unusual for someone to live in one state and work in another. They are far more formal than we are in the South. Even in their dress, they always appear to be doing something really important. After all, in the South, we wear ties for board meetings, funerals, etc. They wear them because it is expected. Food is not important on the East Coast. If you've ever seen us Marylanders attack a picnic table full of steamed blue crabs and oysters on the halfshell, you'd know that's not true. How do you gain weight on steamed crabs? Give me some jambalaya, fried fish with fries or gumbo any day of the week. Frankly, besides being allergic, crabs are too much trouble to eat. j -- PL (320/309/170) (First mini-goal: 299) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.740 / Virus Database: 494 - Release Date: 8/17/2004 |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:06:48 GMT, "SusanLewis"
wrote: Chris keep drumming your poached eggs with ff cheese into my head. Good heavens, I never wanted to tell anyone else to eat this! I think it's weird that I have the same meal so often, really, but I like it :-). But it's just my own idiosyncracy. Chris (about to go off and eat poached eggs :-) ) 262/141/ (145-150) |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:27:51 -0400, Dally wrote:
but if you are really craving some rice and beans then put on Sir Mix-a-lot ("red beans and rice didn't miss her") and eat them! Hah! I just listened to this song today while on my lunchtime walk! Thanks to you, Dally, for pointing me to it :-). (And I second the advice -- just go eat the rice and beans, Susan, and then get back to your regular WOE.) Chris (walking with her MP3 for company this week, as Ted is on vacation) 262/141/ (145-150) |
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