cheesecake on the road

I had some cheesecake last night for the first time in close to a year. I
was out of town on business and went to dinner with people. I don't
remember which one of you predicted this, but it was a big disappointment.
Others thought it was good cheesecake, I didn't care for it at all. It was
too sweet and too rich. I ended up with a fruit salad served with cinnamon
tortilla chips and yogurt - most of which became this morning's pre-workout
meal.

The other parts of the dinner weren't too bad. I got the spaghetti w/ meat
sauce because I was assured the sauce was home made, not canned and it
wasn't overly salty, but I did end up with a pretty raunchy case of
indigestion afterward. Luckily the vending machine had Alka Seltzer.

I've totally adjusted to running on a treadmill btw, and got a new pair of
shoes better suited to it. I played with the incline today and even at 15%
it still wasn't as steep as the hills I had to climb for that cross-country
race. I was able to run for 2 full minutes at normal speed (6 mph) at 15%,
but then had to take it flat and slow for a minute to recover

Here's a question - is it better to run 60 minutes on the treadmill
(intervals of jog/sprint (5.5-7 mph) with occasional walk (4 mph), or do 30
minutes on the treadmill and then 30 on another machine (elliptical, bike,
or stepper)?

Jenn

"Jennifer A" wrote in message
...
I had some cheesecake last night for the first time in close to a year. I
was out of town on business and went to dinner with people. I don't
remember which one of you predicted this, but it was a big disappointment.
Others thought it was good cheesecake, I didn't care for it at all. It
was
too sweet and too rich. I ended up with a fruit salad served with
cinnamon
tortilla chips and yogurt - most of which became this morning's
pre-workout
meal.

It wasn't me who predicted you wouldn't enjoy the cheesecake as much as you
have in the past. I do find the longer I stay away from desserts the more
they taste just too sweet for me. In the past I would have indulged in a
couple of pieces of my ex DIL's Texas sheetcake but this year I ended up
eating half of the piece I took. It was just much sweeter than I had
remembered.

Beverly



The other parts of the dinner weren't too bad. I got the spaghetti w/ meat
sauce because I was assured the sauce was home made, not canned and it
wasn't overly salty, but I did end up with a pretty raunchy case of
indigestion afterward. Luckily the vending machine had Alka Seltzer.

I've totally adjusted to running on a treadmill btw, and got a new pair of
shoes better suited to it. I played with the incline today and even at
15%
it still wasn't as steep as the hills I had to climb for that
cross-country
race. I was able to run for 2 full minutes at normal speed (6 mph) at
15%,
but then had to take it flat and slow for a minute to recover

Here's a question - is it better to run 60 minutes on the treadmill
(intervals of jog/sprint (5.5-7 mph) with occasional walk (4 mph), or do
30
minutes on the treadmill and then 30 on another machine (elliptical, bike,
or stepper)?

Jenn

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:49:01 -0600, "Jennifer A"
wrote:

Here's a question - is it better to run 60 minutes on the treadmill
(intervals of jog/sprint (5.5-7 mph) with occasional walk (4 mph), or do 30
minutes on the treadmill and then 30 on another machine (elliptical, bike,
or stepper)?

I don't know that there's a "better" here, but I'd recommend varying
what you do from day to day. It will keep things more interesting.
Also, you might vary the types of interval training you do. For more
intense interval programs, you probably don't want to do more than
15-30 minutes.

A while back I was following a cardio training program that had 4 days
per week: long run day (45-60 minutes, steady running), interval day
(15-30 minutes, intervals on incline or at a sprint), non-running
cardio day (bike or whatever you chose), and threshold day (max effort
for a shorter period, like 10-15 minutes). You can find stuff like
this in running books.

Chris

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cheesecake ..................

I'm gonna have to go make my pumpkin cheesecake.... mmmmmmmmmm

OK - did you have to post that? I'm struggling as it is tonight. I
should just go to bed...

"Jennifer A" wrote in message
...
I had some cheesecake last night for the first time in close to a year. I
was out of town on business and went to dinner with people. I don't
remember which one of you predicted this, but it was a big disappointment.
Others thought it was good cheesecake, I didn't care for it at all. It
was
too sweet and too rich. I ended up with a fruit salad served with
cinnamon
tortilla chips and yogurt - most of which became this morning's
pre-workout
meal.

The other parts of the dinner weren't too bad. I got the spaghetti w/ meat
sauce because I was assured the sauce was home made, not canned and it
wasn't overly salty, but I did end up with a pretty raunchy case of
indigestion afterward. Luckily the vending machine had Alka Seltzer.

I've totally adjusted to running on a treadmill btw, and got a new pair of
shoes better suited to it. I played with the incline today and even at
15%
it still wasn't as steep as the hills I had to climb for that
cross-country
race. I was able to run for 2 full minutes at normal speed (6 mph) at
15%,
but then had to take it flat and slow for a minute to recover

Here's a question - is it better to run 60 minutes on the treadmill
(intervals of jog/sprint (5.5-7 mph) with occasional walk (4 mph), or do
30
minutes on the treadmill and then 30 on another machine (elliptical, bike,
or stepper)?

Jenn

"Chris Braun" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:49:01 -0600, "Jennifer A"
wrote:

Here's a question - is it better to run 60 minutes on the treadmill
(intervals of jog/sprint (5.5-7 mph) with occasional walk (4 mph), or do
30
minutes on the treadmill and then 30 on another machine (elliptical,
bike,
or stepper)?

I don't know that there's a "better" here, but I'd recommend varying
what you do from day to day. It will keep things more interesting.
Also, you might vary the types of interval training you do. For more
intense interval programs, you probably don't want to do more than
15-30 minutes.

A while back I was following a cardio training program that had 4 days
per week: long run day (45-60 minutes, steady running), interval day
(15-30 minutes, intervals on incline or at a sprint), non-running
cardio day (bike or whatever you chose), and threshold day (max effort
for a shorter period, like 10-15 minutes). You can find stuff like
this in running books.

Chris

I really do vary my workouts since I tend to bore easily, but right now I'm
on a treadmill kick The running books are a good idea, I just haven't
had time to sit and read anything . Because of the weather (roads are now
snow covered and probably will be until april or may) I'm in the process of
switching to a new routine and adding more dummbell work to my strength
training and less Curves. I really do like the elliptical and on days I'm a
little sore in the hip I like the bike. I get to start swimming next week.
I'd like to get more competitive with my running which means I need to get
faster or run a lot farther.

My tentative plan is to run 4x a week like I did in the summer. 3x on the
treadmill (1 really hilly workout, one long day, and one average day) and 1x
at the indoor track before volleyball (the only time I have access to it)
and that will be a 2 mile sprint. After running I'll either hit the pool or
the elliptical until I've done an hour of exercise. The problem with the
fitness center is that it's off limits from Fri 4PM to Sun noon because it's
in a hotel, but snowshoeing and XC skiing will be starting up soon and that
will take up most of my weekend time. If the XC skiing works out, I'll do
that in place of running once in a while during the week because the ski
area is on my way home from work. Lots of the runners up here XC ski
instead of run during the winter.

I'm also going to Curves a few times a week and doing dumbell work (squats,
lunges, upper body) and I do yoga daily with a long class once a week. It
sounds like a lot, but spread out over a week it really isn't, especially
since the Curves isn't much of a workout, but does get me moving first thing
in the morning, is easy, and guarantees I have some exercise each day in
case something comes up at work or home to prevent me from getting to the
rest of my workout.

Jenn
(getting my own treadmill next winter)

"JayJay" wrote in message
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cheesecake ..................

I'm gonna have to go make my pumpkin cheesecake.... mmmmmmmmmm

OK - did you have to post that? I'm struggling as it is tonight. I
should just go to bed...


SORRY!!!! I didn't see your post until after I posted mine. Cheesecake was
icky!!! Pumpkin cheesecake sounds awful. Herbal tea and a kiwi fruit
sounds wonderful right now Off to bed.

Jenn

"Jennifer A" wrote in message
...


I really do vary my workouts since I tend to bore easily, but right now
I'm
on a treadmill kick The running books are a good idea, I just haven't
had time to sit and read anything . Because of the weather (roads are
now
snow covered and probably will be until april or may) I'm in the process
of
switching to a new routine and adding more dummbell work to my strength
training and less Curves. I really do like the elliptical and on days I'm
a
little sore in the hip I like the bike. I get to start swimming next
week.
I'd like to get more competitive with my running which means I need to get
faster or run a lot farther.

To make your running more interesting, split up your distances and speeds.
Once a week, try doing an LSD (low slow distance), where you run at your
slowest rate, but go twice as far as a nornmal run. On another day (do these
day one day a week only) do intervals, where you warm up for 1/4th mile,
sprint for 100-200 yards, then slow down for 100-200 miles and repeat a few
times.

To be a really good runner it's important to run at least 3-4 times a week.
It sounds like you're doing great!

My tentative plan is to run 4x a week like I did in the summer. 3x on the
treadmill (1 really hilly workout, one long day, and one average day) and
1x
at the indoor track before volleyball (the only time I have access to it)
and that will be a 2 mile sprint. After running I'll either hit the pool
or
the elliptical until I've done an hour of exercise. The problem with the
fitness center is that it's off limits from Fri 4PM to Sun noon because
it's
in a hotel, but snowshoeing and XC skiing will be starting up soon and
that
will take up most of my weekend time. If the XC skiing works out, I'll do
that in place of running once in a while during the week because the ski
area is on my way home from work. Lots of the runners up here XC ski
instead of run during the winter.

And it's the best workout one can get. : )

I'm also going to Curves a few times a week and doing dumbell work
(squats,
lunges, upper body) and I do yoga daily with a long class once a week. It
sounds like a lot, but spread out over a week it really isn't, especially
since the Curves isn't much of a workout, but does get me moving first
thing
in the morning, is easy, and guarantees I have some exercise each day in
case something comes up at work or home to prevent me from getting to the
rest of my workout.

From everything I've heard, it sound great for women who haven't worked out
for a while and want to use it as a stepping stone towards better workouts,
so the turnover should be huge. But as a long term plan, it doesn't sound
like it's much of a workout. 30 minutes isn't very long.

I did 40 minutes of weights and 2 miles on 15 grade on the treadmill last
night at my gym.

Martha

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:40:15 -0600, "Jennifer A"
wrote:


"JayJay" wrote in message
...
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cheesecake ..................

I'm gonna have to go make my pumpkin cheesecake.... mmmmmmmmmm

OK - did you have to post that? I'm struggling as it is tonight. I
should just go to bed...


SORRY!!!! I didn't see your post until after I posted mine. Cheesecake was
icky!!! Pumpkin cheesecake sounds awful. Herbal tea and a kiwi fruit
sounds wonderful right now Off to bed.

Jenn


not your fault at all... We can't be worry about what we post
influencing others.

The key is - even though I thought about yummy cheese cake, I didn't
act upon it.

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:03:42 GMT, "MH"
wrote:


To make your running more interesting, split up your distances and speeds.
Once a week, try doing an LSD (low slow distance), where you run at your
slowest rate, but go twice as far as a nornmal run. On another day (do these
day one day a week only) do intervals, where you warm up for 1/4th mile,
sprint for 100-200 yards, then slow down for 100-200 miles and repeat a few
times.


Ya know, I think one 100-200 mile rest period would just about do me
in :-).

Chris

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:42:04 GMT, Chris Braun
wrote:

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:49:01 -0600, "Jennifer A"
wrote:

Here's a question - is it better to run 60 minutes on the treadmill
(intervals of jog/sprint (5.5-7 mph) with occasional walk (4 mph), or do 30
minutes on the treadmill and then 30 on another machine (elliptical, bike,
or stepper)?


Hey Jennifer,
It depends what you're trying to accomplish.

For overall health and maintenance the AMA stated that accumulative
aerobic exercise throughout the day is no different than one long
session.

If you're trying to burn fat, then there is a difference based on your
heart rate. Fat burning heart rate is about 60% of heart rate at
maximum effort. When you start and stop a machine, your rate goes
down. You can measure it all, but if you can easily talk while
working out, then you're not working hard enough. If you're too
winded to speak at all then you're working out too hard.

The first carbs used for energy are those in your bloodstream.
That's why it's not recommended for a fat-loser to eat heavy carbs 1
to 2 hours before exercise. A rule of thumb is that cardio after 20
minutes of exercising burns off accumulated fat calories. That's a
good thing!

I had a trainer suggest this routine for me to help me reduce fat.
Decide for yourself if this is too intense. If you're doing an hour
of running, then this probably will be something you'll like.

Go almost fullout on an elliptical for 1 minute,
then rush to do 1 set on 3 circuit machines
at a speed of 20 reps within 30 seconds
(That tells you the weights to set)
Then Return to the elliptical for 1 minute.
Then again to the circuit/elliptical/
ending with the circuit for the 3rd time.
Change the 3 exercises for each circuit above so you've done 9
difference circuit exercises.

Take a brisk walk on the track...about 2 minutes

Then do it all over again starting with the ellliptical.
Try to get 3-5 sets in one hour.
If you survive, you'll be slender by Saturday :^)

Mike