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Old October 16th, 2003, 06:29 PM
Nancy Howells
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In article , "Jean B."
wrote:

(My stuff prior)
And in the weight-loss arena: a great deal of what made me introverted
was always being the fat kid. I know some of it's genetic and cultural,
but the rest of it surely had to do with that, and is something I keep
working on. Now that I'm losing weight, I find it even more difficult,
because for reasons *I* don't understand, I'm getting quite a bit of
male attention - and I'm STILL FAT!

Weird. I find it uncomfortable to say the least.


That IS interesting. I wouldn't like it at all. In fact I
sometimes think that one reason why I packed on the pounds and
didn't care for so many years was precisely because it was an easy
way to fend off unwanted attention. Now, though, I am losing
weight for MYSELF. It is just not healthy for me to be so
overweight (only 30-40 lbs, but on my ca 5-foot frame, that is A
LOT!), and now that I am getting older, I cannot be so complacent
about that.


I don't like it much, believe me. I KNOW that's one of the ways I began
not to care - I know it in a way that I don't want to take public here,
but I know it from the bottom of my heart. Made it easier to be
invisible, I thought - until I got fat enough that then I was a target,
and by then, it was out of my control to a certain extent.

I'm losing weight for *me* too, but still finding it difficult for
reasons I'm not sure I can figure out.

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Old October 16th, 2003, 09:01 PM
Priscilla H Ballou
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seth quoth:
I definitely need help. I checked earlier this evening, and the closest
Overeaters Anonymous meeting is 43 miles away. I have no problem once I
get started, but getting going with low-carb has been pretty tough this
time around. It was easy in January, because I was so disgusted with
myself over my holiday eating. Maybe today disgusted me enough to take
some affirmative action.

OA can be good and it can not be good. It really depends on the group,
I think. I've never gone myself, but I have had friends who've done OA.
Back then (15+ years ago), in this area (Boston) at least, there was
"regular" OA and "gray sheet" OA. Gray sheet was reputed to be pretty
grim, with a list of allowed and forbidden foods, while regular was
reputed to be more like other 12-step programs.


I have checked out OA, in three different towns, having moved quite a
bit.
Despite what is said at meetings, my observations do not point towards
OA being helpful.
Less then 10% of the people at any given meeting have recovery over a
year. And of that 10% less then half have it longer then 7 years.


That's a helpful observation, and I'm afraid it's born out by the fact
that my friends who did OA stopped after a while. They had good
recovery, but it was in a number of programs, and they chose programs
other than OA to focus on. From my years in AA I know that when I was
a newcomer I needed to hear from people who'd put a few years together
and not just other newcomers like me who were still really struggling.
OTOH, I know that after I moved into double digits I needed to separate
from the program. Interesting paradox.

Please observe for yourself and make a decision from that choice.


Always check stuff out for one's self, yes.

And watch how people respond if you mention this.


Interesting suggestion. Heh!

Priscilla
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"We are the church that belongs to the Man who said 'Seek, and ye shall
find.' He did not say, in any scripture I have access to, 'Shut up, and
I'll tell ye.'" - Hugh R. Beyer in alt.religion.christian.episcopal

  #153  
Old October 16th, 2003, 09:13 PM
M Shirley Chong
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Jean B. wrote:

Okay, that looks reasonable. I wonder whether you and your sister
were somehow closer to your dad (emotionally) while your brother
was closer to your mom? From what you say the genetic responsible
for personality don't go along with those responsible for physical
appearance anyway.


Hmmmmmmm... I'd say my sister is closer to our father and I'm closer
to our mother. And I can't call my brother, I'd say he's equally
close to both.

I did learn how to fake being comfortable in social situations from
watching my mother. But with her it's genuine, with me it's
definitely faking (and extremely draining to do).

Shirley

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Old October 18th, 2003, 03:43 PM
seth
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Priscilla H Ballou wrote in message From my years in AA I know that when I was
as a newcomer I needed to hear from people who'd put a few years together
and not just other newcomers like me who were still really struggling.
OTOH,



Hmmmmm well said Priscilla- that resonates for me deeply. Thank you.



I know that after I moved into double digits I needed to separate
from the program.


Don't understand what you mean by double digits.


peace,

Seth
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Old October 19th, 2003, 12:37 AM
seth
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Don't understand what you mean by double digits.

After I had 10 years.

Priscilla, 18+ years sober


!!!! Cool. Congrats.

Seth
 




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