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I Feel So Rotten :(
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote: Does anyone have advice for dealing with eating to console my sorrow? It doesn't work. It only makes me feel worse. But somehow, I can't see that when I start shoveling the crap in. Carol, have you considered getting some talk therapy to work on how you're using food, specifically carbs? I imagine you're on meds for your bipolar disorder, but this might be helped with some one-on-one. Priscilla |
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I Feel So Rotten :(
"Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in message ... Every day, I start out low-carb. Almost every day, low-carb falls by the wayside at some point. Even when I got on the scale this morning, and weighed 200 pounds again, I still crashed and burned late this afternoon. As a lot of you know, I'm bipolar. One of my ongoing problems is that, nearly every afternoon or early evening, I'm plunged into an intolerable depression. My historical way of dealing with this has been to turn to comfort foods. snip Ah Damsel, that sure is bad. If it is afternoons/evenings always, there seems some imbalance. Have you been tested for the FULL range of Thyroid tests? Getting the "bad" stuff out of the house is the only way. The SO has to help in this and forego his stash of "stuff". It cannot be in your reach smile Frenchy |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:24:09 GMT, Luna
wrote: Well, hmm. Are you actually hungry when you're eating the crap? I mean, is it meal time and this is what you decide to have, or are you not hungry at all and just looking for a distraction from pain? Because, of course, if you really are hungry and it is time to eat, well . . . eat something yummy and good for you. But it sounds like you mean you're using these foods as medication and not as nutrition. I'm not bipolar, but I've been through plenty of crap in my life from my mom dying when I was a kid to that nasty unhealthy relationship I made public on this group a while back, and I can tell you some of the things that not only distract me from pain but also make me feel a bit better. Nope, I'm not really hungry when I eat the crap. Tonight, before going insane, I'd had a chicken breast and some pepperoni. No veggies, which I think is a lot of my problem. If I were eating my veggies like a good girl, I'd be too full to eat crap. Note to self: Eat your damned veggies! Cleaning: with a bad back this may be a problem, but even sitting and organizing photos or the junk drawers can be really therapeutic for me. It calms me and when it's done I feel a sense of accomplishment and a sense of peace that one more area of clutter in my life is under control. I've been hanging a lot of pictures, and going through "some" boxes. It does give a feeling of accomplishment. Writing: I write poetry, letters that I'll never mail, and just random thoughts. I have lots of online friends I could be keeping in better touch with. I do spend a lot of evenings on the IRC, with friends I have from rec.food.cooking. Very nice bunch of people. Arts and crafts: I don't know if you're into this, but if you are, do some decoupage or make some jewelry or paint something. If you're not into crafts yet, try it. It's not about talent, it's about playing. I used to do counted cross-stitch, but since I got bifocals, I just can't see properly to do it. I'll have to find a craft shop somewhere, and find myself another hobby, huh? I also enjoy word games, jigsaw puzzles, and origami. These are things I would do in the long, late, quiet hours at work when my mind would start to wander to subjects I didn't want to think about, like my ex. I'd get really involved in a logic problem and the time would fly by and no tears would be shed, and no obsessive phone calls would be made. I've been playing computer solitaire to the exclusion of almost everything else, the past few days. Other times, I get obsessed with Mah Jong. I wish I could play this stuff on a table, but we have a cat. 'Nuff said. I have come to face the fact that I will never be free of addictions and/or obsessions. Some are longer lived than others, and some are healthier than others, but the trick is to replace the unhealthy ones with healthy or at least harmless ones. I don't try to fight the fact that I have a tendancy to periodically get obsessed with things, it's part of my personality. But I do try to make sure the obsessions are good or harmless ones. I hear ya, Luna. I have OCD, and if it's not one thing, it's another. I've been trying not to be obsessive about asdlc and FitDay, but I'm discovering that those obsessions are necessary to my health, both physical and mental. I have to be obsessed with my diabetic control and weight loss, or I completely let them go to hell. No obsession is actually healthy, but some are better than others, and I think I've just chosen a couple that I need. Thanks for making that more clear to me. Thank you, Carol -- 226/196/150 October Challenge Goal - 191 http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie/ Atkins since January 26, 2003 Type 2 Diabetic since May 15, 2001 |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:37:04 GMT, Priscilla Ballou
wrote: In article , Damsel in dis Dress wrote: Does anyone have advice for dealing with eating to console my sorrow? It doesn't work. It only makes me feel worse. But somehow, I can't see that when I start shoveling the crap in. Carol, have you considered getting some talk therapy to work on how you're using food, specifically carbs? I imagine you're on meds for your bipolar disorder, but this might be helped with some one-on-one. My new shrink has suggested cognitive-behavioral therapy, and there are two therapists in the office who do that. It'll be new to me, and I've been putting off making an appointment, because I'm a little nervous about moving beyond, "How did you feel when that happened?" I definitely need help. I checked earlier this evening, and the closest Overeaters Anonymous meeting is 43 miles away. I have no problem once I get started, but getting going with low-carb has been pretty tough this time around. It was easy in January, because I was so disgusted with myself over my holiday eating. Maybe today disgusted me enough to take some affirmative action. Thanks, Priscilla. I'll make an appointment on Tuesday, when I see my shrink. Carol -- 226/196/150 October Challenge Goal - 191 http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie/ Atkins since January 26, 2003 Type 2 Diabetic since May 15, 2001 |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:39:33 +1300, "Frenchy"
wrote: "Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in message .. . Every day, I start out low-carb. Almost every day, low-carb falls by the wayside at some point. Even when I got on the scale this morning, and weighed 200 pounds again, I still crashed and burned late this afternoon. As a lot of you know, I'm bipolar. One of my ongoing problems is that, nearly every afternoon or early evening, I'm plunged into an intolerable depression. My historical way of dealing with this has been to turn to comfort foods. snip Ah Damsel, that sure is bad. If it is afternoons/evenings always, there seems some imbalance. Have you been tested for the FULL range of Thyroid tests? Nope. Just one test, which showed my thyroid levels to be right where they belong. I'm going to talk to my shrink about this on Tuesday. My SO says I've always gotten blue in the evenings, but it's gotten very, very bad lately. If my shrink doesn't have an answer, I'll talk to my internist about further testing. Getting the "bad" stuff out of the house is the only way. The SO has to help in this and forego his stash of "stuff". It cannot be in your reach smile I'll be talking with him later this evening, to try to work out a strategy for dealing with this problem. I don't understand why I'm eating food I don't even like! Thanks! Carol -- 226/196/150 October Challenge Goal - 191 http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie/ Atkins since January 26, 2003 Type 2 Diabetic since May 15, 2001 |
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
Every day, I start out low-carb. Almost every day, low-carb falls by the wayside at some point. Even when I got on the scale this morning, and weighed 200 pounds again, I still crashed and burned late this afternoon. As a lot of you know, I'm bipolar. One of my ongoing problems is that, nearly every afternoon or early evening, I'm plunged into an intolerable depression. My historical way of dealing with this has been to turn to comfort foods. I don't know why, during times of sadness, I consider popcorn and M&Ms to be my friends. They're not! They're mortal enemies. To my diabetic control, to my weight, and to my general sense of well-being. The usual advice would be to go take a long walk, or get some other form of exercise. Problem is, I hurt my back a few weeks ago, and still have to treat it with kid gloves. Does anyone have advice for dealing with eating to console my sorrow? It doesn't work. It only makes me feel worse. But somehow, I can't see that when I start shoveling the crap in. Trolls, there's no need to respond to this. I have you killfiled. I'm sincerely searching for helpful advice from people who actually wish me well. Thank you, Carol Oh Carol, My heart goes out to you. my DH #1 was a self-medicating bipolar. he drank. he died at age 25. by his own hand. I wish I could give you advice, but the best I can do is give you this {{{{Carol}}}}}. (that was my first hug online). Hang in there, get your meds adjusted or whatever and stop hurting yourself. love lori |
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Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
.. I don't understand why I'm eating food I don't even like! Thanks! Carol self-sabatoge? just a thought. I've done it to myself enough times. try to figure out for yourself what losing that weight will mean for your future. will your job be good enough? will you still want to stay in or will you want to be out more? will SO still be good enough? I ask these questions because I either have answered them for myself or still need to. ain't these here support groups grand? best wishes to you -- Lori 220/147/135 LC since 1/17/03 Oct Challenge 150/145 http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller |
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I Feel So Rotten :(
Damsel in dis Dress writes:
One of my ongoing problems is that, nearly every afternoon or early evening, I'm plunged into an intolerable depression. My historical way of dealing with this has been to turn to comfort foods. Carol, do you keep a journal? Have you considered or tried doing some deep soul-searching when the depression hits? Sometimes I make a big stack of whatever LC comfort food I'm in the mood for - cheesecake for comfort, pork rinds for anger, Slim Jims for hunger, etc, and chew on them while I write. If nothing else you can write about your frustration or your anger or your food situation, and the snacks will keep you out of the popcorn and other baddies. Good luck - I know how hard it is some days. Connie ************************************************** *** My mind is like a steel...um, whatchamacallit. |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:37:10 GMT, "Lorelei"
wrote: Oh Carol, My heart goes out to you. my DH #1 was a self-medicating bipolar. he drank. he died at age 25. by his own hand. I wish I could give you advice, but the best I can do is give you this {{{{Carol}}}}}. (that was my first hug online). Hang in there, get your meds adjusted or whatever and stop hurting yourself. love lori Aw, now I'm crying. Happy tears, of course. It makes me feel good to know that you care so much. Mental illness sucks, bigtime. But I won't let the gremlins in my brain win, dammit! I never really thought of food as self-medicating, but of course, you're absolutely right. I've never gotten into alcohol or drugs, but food.... yes. I'll let y'all know what the doc says on Tuesday. The man really knows his stuff. I'm terribly impressed by him. Hopefully, he can find a way to help me with this. If not him, one of the therapists. My first priority on Tuesday, though, is to see if there's something that can be done to prevent me from beating the tar out of my SO every night. Apparently, I have a lot of internal anger that comes out while I'm asleep. Yup, I'm one ****ed up bitch. {{{{{Lori}}}}} Gratefully, Carol -- 226/196/150 October Challenge Goal - 191 http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie/ Atkins since January 26, 2003 Type 2 Diabetic since May 15, 2001 |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:43:39 GMT, "Lorelei"
wrote: Damsel in dis Dress wrote: . I don't understand why I'm eating food I don't even like! self-sabatoge? just a thought. I've done it to myself enough times. try to figure out for yourself what losing that weight will mean for your future. will your job be good enough? will you still want to stay in or will you want to be out more? will SO still be good enough? I ask these questions because I either have answered them for myself or still need to. ain't these here support groups grand? best wishes to you The reason I gained the weight was to give my then-husband an excuse for never touching me. If I was fat, it made sense to me. Without a "reason," I couldn't understand, or even begin to accept that life. Now I'm with someone who adores me in any way, shape, or form. I don't work, so it's basically just him and me. I'm not sure why I would subconsciously try to harm myself. It's a new concept for me, and it's going to take awhile to digest it. Maybe I don't think I'm worthy of being happy? Things to ponder. Carol -- 226/196/150 October Challenge Goal - 191 http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie/ Atkins since January 26, 2003 Type 2 Diabetic since May 15, 2001 |
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