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by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.

By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
parliament, still reside in South Africa.)

People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of
the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa
(but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).

Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future
Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar
to those that destroyed our country.

America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups,
your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved
or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the
world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem
it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to
losing your Western character.

Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting
fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences,
writing your Congressman - that is what you know, and what you are
comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for
yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political
accountability.

But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White
Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to
challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result
of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to
cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots,
intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for
proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and
political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power
from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt
cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately
their way of life.

That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was
there and I saw it happen.

South Africa used to be one of the most advanced nations on earth.
Then Washington intervened.

Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the
sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National
Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to
achieve "peace."

Mandela was in jail for twenty seven years not because he was an
innocent black man but because he was a Communist terrorist who said
in court that he was planning to kill people with bombs. He could have
been released at any time simply by renouncing terrorism. He refused.

Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are
builders and planners. But what we got was the peace of the grave for
our society.

The Third World is different - different peoples with different pasts
and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the
psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and
Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in
perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe - once the thriving, stable Rhodesia
- is looting the very people (the white men) who feed the country. Yet
Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to
America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves.
The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation
of the Western conscience of compassion.

Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and
its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and
savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western
politicians now have a similar problem looming on their own doorsteps:
the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside
the realm.

Again, Washington forced Rhodesia into Communist hands. Rhodesia
exported tons of food. Zimbabwe typically starves. Washington did
this.

It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough
people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the
armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the
craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy
them a few more votes, a few more days of peace.

White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of
Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North
America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We
are not so very different from you.

South Africans voted for their own suicide. Did you?

We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad
(not least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and
"racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white
man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his
compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your
neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's
history.

See my recent piece – Before the Election: What You Must Do – about
the deliberate cultivation of white guilt in the Communist government
schools.

The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western
influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's
tyrants were yesterday's mission-school protégés. Many dictators in
Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would
deflect criticism and obfuscate their real aims, which had nothing
whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man."

Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled
by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After
receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust
against their benefactors.
From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will
capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They
don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they
were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise
and be nice.

A television program that aired in South Africa showed a town meeting
somewhere in Southern California where people met to complain about
falling standards in the schools. Whites who politely spoke at the
meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their
community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted
and waved their hands at them, the whites simply shrunk back into
their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't
want to quarrel.

In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws.
But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by
court rulings - as in Zimbabwe. What will happen when the new majority
says the judges are racists, and that they refuse to acknowledge
"white man's justice"? What will happen when the courts are filled
with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition
187 has already been overturned

What will you do when the future non-white majority decides to change
the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer
want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white
"racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying
the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official
language?

Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first
targets were our national symbols.

In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now
experiencing - invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the
decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the
banishment of your history from the education of the young; the
revolutionization of your justice system.

In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murderers end up in jail.
Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear.
Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making
escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly
purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine.

What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your
neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that
litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of
witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for
"medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches?

Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.

Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in
the till will be punished. Excuses - like the need to overcome
generations of white racism - will be found to exonerate the guilty.

In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial
solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites.
When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world,
white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring
him to surrender.

When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents,
ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and
siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his
friends, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and
declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.

Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In
South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds
such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply
abandoned.

What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either
destroyed from without, or transformed from within, used to suit the
goals of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror, as
in Zimbabwe today, or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain, or buy
votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or
devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the
most surprising and tragic components of the disaster in South Africa
is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side.
Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no
getting it back again.

Please note. Once it’s gone, it’s gone. Whatever you do later, however
hard you fight, you cannot get it back.

Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot
fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You
cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot
appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises
you for your weaknesses and hacks off the arms and legs of his
political opponents.

To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to
people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the
test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will
probably fail.

Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake:
They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and
George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your
possessions, your power, and your status.

And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights
activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will
fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and
your Christian charity, and your good will.

They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your
weaknesses well.

They know what to do.

Do you?

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"." wrote in message
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by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
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Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake:
They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and
George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your
possessions, your power, and your status.

no, what we want are the same possessions, power, and status, the ones
that the people who have possessions, power and status have been keeping
from us and are still
trying to deny us


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"Devil.Handsome" wrote in message
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"." wrote in message
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no, what we want are the same possessions, power, and status, the ones
that the people who have possessions, power and status have been keeping
from us and are still
trying to deny us


---


And quite right too! - first stop, a trip into the 'hood to relieve your
local rapzter of its golden chains and Mercedes-Benz?..........( you could
even do society a wider favour, and take away its rhyming dictionary)




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On Nov 6, 7:08*pm, "." wrote:
by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.

By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
parliament, still reside in South Africa.)

People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of
the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa
(but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).

Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future
Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar
to those that destroyed our country.

America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups,
your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved
or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the
world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem
it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to
losing your Western character.

Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting
fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences,
writing your Congressman - that is what you know, and what you are
comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for
yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political
accountability.

But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White
Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to
challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result
of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to
cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots,
intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for
proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and
political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power
from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt
cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately
their way of life.

That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was
there and I saw it happen.

South Africa used to be one of the most advanced nations on earth.
Then Washington intervened.

Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the
sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National
Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to
achieve "peace."

Mandela was in jail for twenty seven years not because he was an
innocent black man but because he was a Communist terrorist who said
in court that he was planning to kill people with bombs. He could have
been released at any time simply by renouncing terrorism. He refused.

Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are
builders and planners. But what we got was the peace of the grave for
our society.

The Third World is different - different peoples with different pasts
and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the
psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and
Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in
perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe - once the thriving, stable Rhodesia
- is looting the very people (the white men) who feed the country. Yet
Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to
America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves.
The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation
of the Western conscience of compassion.

Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and
its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and
savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western
politicians now have a similar problem looming on their own doorsteps:
the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside
the realm.

Again, Washington forced Rhodesia into Communist hands. Rhodesia
exported tons of food. Zimbabwe typically starves. Washington did
this.

It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough
people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the
armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the
craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy
them a few more votes, a few more days of peace.

White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of
Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North
America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We
are not so very different from you.

South Africans voted for their own suicide. Did you?

We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad
(not least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and
"racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white
man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his
compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your
neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's
history.

See my recent piece – Before the Election: What You Must Do – about
the deliberate cultivation of white guilt in the Communist government
schools.

The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western
influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's
tyrants were yesterday's mission-school protégés. Many dictators in
Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would
deflect criticism and obfuscate their real aims, which had nothing
whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man."

Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled
by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After
receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust
against their benefactors.
From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will
capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They
don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they
were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise
and be nice.

A television program that aired in South Africa showed a town meeting
somewhere in Southern California where people met to complain about
falling standards in the schools. Whites who politely spoke at the
meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their
community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted
and waved their hands at them, the whites simply shrunk back into
their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't
want to quarrel.

In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws.
But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by
court rulings - as in Zimbabwe. What will happen when the new majority
says the judges are racists, and that they refuse to acknowledge
"white man's justice"? What will happen when the courts are filled
with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition
187 has already been overturned

What will you do when the future non-white majority decides to change
the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer
want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white
"racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying
the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official
language?

Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first
targets were our national symbols.

In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now
experiencing - invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the
decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the
banishment of your history from the education of the young; the
revolutionization of your justice system.

In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murderers end up in jail.
Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear.
Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making
escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly
purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine.

What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your
neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that
litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of
witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for
"medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches?

Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.

Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in
the till will be punished. Excuses - like the need to overcome
generations of white racism - will be found to exonerate the guilty.

In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial
solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites.
When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world,
white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring
him to surrender.

When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents,
ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and
siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his
friends, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and
declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.

Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In
South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds
such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are ...

read more »


This woman is on target about many things. Fellow Americans please
hear our voice before it's too late.

Obama is a very dangerous man. He has told the American people a
myriad of lies. He is also called our first black president which
isn’t true. He’s 50% white, 44% Arab and only 6% black. He has
questionable ties with terrorists and will be privy to our most
guarded military secrets and will be called, not only President of the
United States, but Commander-in-Chief. Please do not get me wrong I
welcome a black president, or a woman president, or someone of latino,
asian or any other descent, but they must comply with the requirements
of the Constitution and be someone to whom we can entrust our national
security.

Obama has an agenda to incorporate the United States into a one world
government. He wants to get rid of the Constitution, our national
treasure. We are the only country in the world that enjoys the
freedom and voice that the Constitution gives us. Obama wants to get
rid of that protection. He won’t even salute our American flag.

He also wants to outlaw guns, and the black market would be the only
ones who would be able to get guns. He doesn’t want us to have
protection in our homes. He wants to systematically take away our
rights and our protection.

He says he wants to do all kinds of good things for this country and
he’s being viewed as a savior by many people, but he has a hidden
agenda that will sell this country down the river if we blindly allow
it.
Throughout the campaign the American public was not aware of many
things about Obama’s background because the media protected Obama from
any negative press. On the other hand, anything negative about
McCain or Palin, whether trumped up or true, was splashed all over the
media. Obama even had people scanning the internet for any negative
publicity on him. Many websites were mysteriously eliminated during
his campaign. The media was very careful to give him a rock star,
savior image because they wanted him to win the election.

By electing him, we are basically handing our Constitution, our
national treasure, to him on a silver platter so that he can turn
around and throw it in the trash.

It’s not too late for us to do something about this. A Pennsylvania
attorney, Phillip Berg, has brought a case against Obama to the
Supreme Court demanding that the Constitution be honored and Obama be
made to produce a legitimate birth certificate proving he is a natural
born citizen of the United States. This is one of the three
requirements in the Constitution in order to be qualified for United
States President.

Obama was born in Kenya, but says he was born in Hawaii. He even went
as far as producing a falsified birth certificate which was his step-
sister’s, and had his name put in place of her name. Document experts
proved the lack of authenticity of this document and Supreme Court,
due to Mr. Berg’s request, has given Obama until December 1, 2008 to
come up a legitimate birth certificate. Mr. Berg attempted to halt
the election until Obama produced this documentation, but the
Pennsylvania District Court threw the case out for lack of standing so
Mr. Berg took the case to the Supreme Court.

IT’S NOT TOO LATE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. Go to the petition on
the internet call “Stop The Obama Constitutional Crisis” and sign the
petition on line. This also lists other ways you can make your voice
heard.

It is absolutely amazing how many of our judges don’t have any regard
for the Constitution and will actually admit it. Those judges need to
be ejected from their jobs. We are the people! We still hold the
power according to the Constitution. These government ‘officials’ are
our employees. If they are not upholding the Constitution they have
no business being in those positions. They need to be fired!!!
 




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