Good Calories versus Bad?

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:06:34 GMT, (byakee) wrote:

One dark day on Usenet, said:

I also take a couple of fish oil capsules with EPA-DHA as a direct
source of Omega3. However, I don't like cod liver oil as a source of
omega3 because of the high levels of vitamin D. Opinions vary on this
point as do bodies. So, YMMV.

I also take fish oil capsules, but find myself burping a fishy taste
for an hour or two afterward; bleah!

Fish burps are NASTY! LOL An idea is to eat something with the fish
oil caps that helps to mediate the fishy burp. Maybe a bite of dill
pickle, some dill relish or even a bite of onion. See, then when you
get the "fishies" supposedly they aren't as bad. I just grin and bear
it. But if I eat a good Mexican salsa I'll have a lowcarb
Michelob beer for a more pleasant "after" experience.

Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html
Low-Carb Connoisseur http://www.low-carb.com

So I am wondering if it is better to eat more calories of good stuff or less
calories of bad stuff? I mean, if I eat more calories of good stuff, I
can't eat as much of it - or if I do, I don't lose weight. Whereas, if I
eat bad stuff I eat less calories, but the nutrition level suffers.

Think health first, and you might be pleasantly surprised when you
step on the scale.

Almost all processed food is calorically dense and full of salt, trans
fats and other nasty stuff. One of the simplest and most effective
ways to improve your health/weight is to reduce the amount of
processed food in your diet. Make sure you have lots of good food
available, so it is just as convenient as processed food. It's easy if
you do what the bodybuilders do. In the time it takes to cook a single
meal, you can cook a weeks worth of food. For example:

* Bake a BUNCH of chicken breasts, so you can grab one at any time.
* Steam up a BIG batch of vegetables, so you can quickly warm a
serving in the microwave.
* Hard boil a BUNCH of eggs.

Fast, convenient and infinitely healthier than processed food.

However, with that said, many people have genetic/biochemical defects
that cause an appetite/fat-burning imbalance that makes it difficult,
or even impossible, to avoid obesity without aggressive intervention
to enhance fat burning and reduce appetite.

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On 15 Jul 2004 17:42:48 GMT, Ignoramus23926
wrote:

In article , byakee wrote:
One dark day on Usenet, Crafting Mom said:

Something calorie-dense does weigh
heavy on the stomach and make me feel full, even though size-wise it's
small. (I have tried this with a tablespoon - 120 calories - of flax
seed oil... it *Fills* me)

snip

Given the healthy properties of flax oil, I can see why one
would want to do this, but not sure how one *could* do this.
I just can't imagine putting a spoonful of oil in my mouth.
How does it taste?


tastes like a spoonful of oil!

I drink cod liver oil from time to time, from the bottle.

i

I once bought some sort of fish oil supplement in liquid form and took
one teaspoon of it. I could taste it the rest of the day -- and it
tasted terrible. I cannot imagine ever again willing consuming any
sort of oil by the spoonful.

Chris
262/144/ (145-150)

Heywood Mogroot wrote:
Crafting Mom wrote in message ...
Auntie Em wrote:
What I am wondering is this...If you are reducing calories (and exercising,
of course), and let's say that you keep your calories below a certain level.
How does the "quality" of the food you eat affect the diet?

Speaking for myself, personally, the quality of the food serves the
purpose of 2 popular phrases, "More bang for the buck" and "killing two
birds with one stone".

I (think) I could never successfully diet on a low-fat high-carb plan.
Medium-carb and medium-fat is working great for me now, so why deny
myself good tasting stuff in moderation just so I can eat more of
stuff I hate?

Amen to that!

IMHO, if you go on the Chokito Diet - 5 chocolate bars a day, and
nothing else for 1500 cals - you won't stay on it for long because soon
your body will start screaming for Vitamin B1 and zinc and protein. If
you did the chokitos and a really good supplement and lots of water
you'd still crave protein. If you did the chokitos, but did four and a
protein shake and a supplement you might get by, but why would anyone
want to live that way?

OTOH, a lot of busheney is talked about 'balance'.
--
Jane Lumley

IMHO, if you go on the Chokito Diet - 5 chocolate bars a day, and
nothing else for 1500 cals - you won't stay on it for long because soon
your body will start screaming for Vitamin B1 and zinc and protein. If
you did the chokitos and a really good supplement and lots of water
you'd still crave protein. If you did the chokitos, but did four and a
protein shake and a supplement you might get by, but why would anyone
want to live that way?

OTOH, a lot of busheney is talked about 'balance'.
--
Jane Lumley

"Chris Braun" wrote in message
...
On 15 Jul 2004 17:42:48 GMT, Ignoramus23926
wrote:

In article , byakee wrote:
One dark day on Usenet, Crafting Mom
said:

Something calorie-dense does weigh
heavy on the stomach and make me feel full, even though size-wise it's
small. (I have tried this with a tablespoon - 120 calories - of flax
seed oil... it *Fills* me)

snip

Given the healthy properties of flax oil, I can see why one
would want to do this, but not sure how one *could* do this.
I just can't imagine putting a spoonful of oil in my mouth.
How does it taste?


tastes like a spoonful of oil!

I drink cod liver oil from time to time, from the bottle.

i

I once bought some sort of fish oil supplement in liquid form and took
one teaspoon of it. I could taste it the rest of the day -- and it
tasted terrible. I cannot imagine ever again willing consuming any
sort of oil by the spoonful.

Chris
262/144/ (145-150)

I'm with you on this, Chris. I've never liked the taste or feel of oil in
my mouth and will continue to get the good fats in flax seed, fish, etc.

Beverly
177/147/140

Yes, processed foods = salt + trans fats. How bad are trans fats?
Terrible - just eating four grams can double your risk "The Nurses'
Health Study found that replacing only 30 calories (7 grams) of
carbohydrates every day with 30 calories (4 grams) of trans fats
nearly doubled the risk for heart disease."
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats.html WHere do you
find trans fats? "Most of the trans fats in the American diet are
found in commercially prepared baked goods, margarines, snack foods,
and processed foods. Commercially prepared fried foods, like French
fries and onion rings, also contain a good deal of trans fat."

(DrumLib) wrote in message . com...
So I am wondering if it is better to eat more calories of good stuff or less
calories of bad stuff? I mean, if I eat more calories of good stuff, I
can't eat as much of it - or if I do, I don't lose weight. Whereas, if I
eat bad stuff I eat less calories, but the nutrition level suffers.

Think health first, and you might be pleasantly surprised when you
step on the scale.

Almost all processed food is calorically dense and full of salt, trans
fats and other nasty stuff. One of the simplest and most effective
ways to improve your health/weight is to reduce the amount of
processed food in your diet. Make sure you have lots of good food
available, so it is just as convenient as processed food. It's easy if
you do what the bodybuilders do. In the time it takes to cook a single
meal, you can cook a weeks worth of food. For example:

* Bake a BUNCH of chicken breasts, so you can grab one at any time.
* Steam up a BIG batch of vegetables, so you can quickly warm a
serving in the microwave.
* Hard boil a BUNCH of eggs.

Fast, convenient and infinitely healthier than processed food.

However, with that said, many people have genetic/biochemical defects
that cause an appetite/fat-burning imbalance that makes it difficult,
or even impossible, to avoid obesity without aggressive intervention
to enhance fat burning and reduce appetite.

Appetite Reduction:
http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000023.htm
http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000026.htm

Enhancing Fat Burning:
http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000006.htm
http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000018.htm

Live Long and Prosper!
DrumLib

DrumLib's Health Research Review
http://www.drumlib.com
Vitamin Price Comparison
(including price based on standardized dose)
http://www.drumlib.com/bestprice.htm
Disclaimer
http://www.drumlib.com/terms.htm

In article , Chris Braun
writes

I once bought some sort of fish oil supplement in liquid form and took
one teaspoon of it. I could taste it the rest of the day -- and it
tasted terrible. I cannot imagine ever again willing consuming any
sort of oil by the spoonful.

Single-estate extra virgin olive oil is wonderful in a spoon.

--
Jane Lumley

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:19:50 +0100, Jane Lumley
wrote:

In article , Chris Braun
writes

I once bought some sort of fish oil supplement in liquid form and took
one teaspoon of it. I could taste it the rest of the day -- and it
tasted terrible. I cannot imagine ever again willing consuming any
sort of oil by the spoonful.

Single-estate extra virgin olive oil is wonderful in a spoon.

No thanks :-).

Chris