Zero points food

Hi everyone,

I don't belong to Weight Watchers but my Mother does so I've got a lot of
information from her.

2 weeks ago I started counting my points and I keep a log of it all on my
own database. For my first 2 weeks my week total has been higher than my
target, but considering the way I used to eat I think I'm actually don't
quite well. Also, the daily target I've chosen is for someone weighing less
than me, but it's the maximum that's mentioned on the chart in the WW
Handbook (which stupidly doesn't give daily points for people who are
anything more than just a bit fat!).

My main problem, as with all previous diets, is that I barely like any food
that's good for me. That isn't by choice of course, it's just the way I am
and I can't do anything about it. The main problem is that I don't like
vegetables. The only sort of vegetables I can eat without feeling like I
want to be sick is potatoes (if they are a vegetables? I think they're
supposed to be).

I can eat some fruit but it seems I only like the fruit with higher points.
The main fruit I'll eat is bananas but at 1.5 points that isn't something I
can eat 10 of without it affecting my diet. The problem I have is that I
need to eat SOMEthing, and if I feel like giving up (like I do right now) I
need to eat a lot of it. I don't know of any zero points food that I
actually like (or can even put up with). The best I sometimes do when I
really need to eat, is to munch on Rivetas with yeast extract. Yeast Extract
is zero points but Rivetas are still 0.5 points each. They taste like
saw-dust but I don't mind them and it's something to put in my mouth and
take the desperate starving feeling partially away.

Has anyone got any ideas what I could munch on please that's either zero
points of close to it, that isn't vegetables?

Thanks,
Geoff.

There isnt much besides veggies that are 0 points, so controlled
portions are the way to go. Definately try sugar free pudding and
jello. They are low in points. Or fat free cool whip. Which is
delicious. Especially frozen. Its technically zero points for the
serving but if you eat alot count it for one or two. You can make a
pretty good snack of pudding topped with cool whip and sprinkles.
Also sugar free hard candy or gum can get you through a lot. Good
luck and stick to it!


"Geoff" wrote in message ...
Hi everyone,

I don't belong to Weight Watchers but my Mother does so I've got a lot of
information from her.

2 weeks ago I started counting my points and I keep a log of it all on my
own database. For my first 2 weeks my week total has been higher than my
target, but considering the way I used to eat I think I'm actually don't
quite well. Also, the daily target I've chosen is for someone weighing less
than me, but it's the maximum that's mentioned on the chart in the WW
Handbook (which stupidly doesn't give daily points for people who are
anything more than just a bit fat!).

My main problem, as with all previous diets, is that I barely like any food
that's good for me. That isn't by choice of course, it's just the way I am
and I can't do anything about it. The main problem is that I don't like
vegetables. The only sort of vegetables I can eat without feeling like I
want to be sick is potatoes (if they are a vegetables? I think they're
supposed to be).

I can eat some fruit but it seems I only like the fruit with higher points.
The main fruit I'll eat is bananas but at 1.5 points that isn't something I
can eat 10 of without it affecting my diet. The problem I have is that I
need to eat SOMEthing, and if I feel like giving up (like I do right now) I
need to eat a lot of it. I don't know of any zero points food that I
actually like (or can even put up with). The best I sometimes do when I
really need to eat, is to munch on Rivetas with yeast extract. Yeast Extract
is zero points but Rivetas are still 0.5 points each. They taste like
saw-dust but I don't mind them and it's something to put in my mouth and
take the desperate starving feeling partially away.

Has anyone got any ideas what I could munch on please that's either zero
points of close to it, that isn't vegetables?

Thanks,
Geoff.

"Lachelle" wrote in message
om...
There isnt much besides veggies that are 0 points, so controlled
portions are the way to go. Definately try sugar free pudding and
jello. They are low in points. Or fat free cool whip. Which is
delicious. Especially frozen. Its technically zero points for the
serving but if you eat alot count it for one or two. You can make a
pretty good snack of pudding topped with cool whip and sprinkles.
Also sugar free hard candy or gum can get you through a lot. Good
luck and stick to it!


Hi Lachelle. Thanks for replying to me. To be honest I'm not too keen on
trying low sugar things but I know I'm just being silly so I'll think about
your suggestions (after I've converted all those things to what they're
called in England!).

As for sticking to it...I don't know if I can. Life isn't too happy right
now and in a way the worst time to try and lose weight, but if I don't do it
soon I won't live to see the next 10 years so I have to try. I need local
support but that doesn't exist for me. Well not unless I pay Weigh Watchers
and I refuse to pay an organisation just so I can sit in a room and talk to
people.

Thanks again for your help,
Geoff.

Geoff wrote:

As for sticking to it...I don't know if I can. Life isn't too happy
right now and in a way the worst time to try and lose weight, but if
I don't do it soon I won't live to see the next 10 years so I have to
try. I need local support but that doesn't exist for me. Well not
unless I pay Weigh Watchers and I refuse to pay an organisation just
so I can sit in a room and talk to people.

Thanks again for your help,
Geoff.

Geoff,

I'm going to speak from the heart, and this is going to be 'tough love'.

There isn't EVER a good time to lose weight, or to do anything we don't
REALLY want to do. You seem to have some reasons why you can't stick to a
diet, in this case weight watchers, and we really can't give you one. We
can answer your questions, but we can't answer your question behind the
question: Why can't I eat what I want and still lose weight.

If you don't want to control your portion size (eesh, 10 bananas?) have you
considered exercising more? Walking, hiking, swimming, riding your bike?
To fill your stomach drink black coffee, black tea, diet soda, water.

You WILL have to sacrifice somethings to lose weight. Also, out of
curisoity how much do you weight and how tall are you?

In all seriousness, good luck. If you can't stick to a plan, pick something
you can stick with. What you might want to consider is to journal
everything that you eat, in a normal non dieting day, and then scale down
from there.



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I'm going to speak from the heart, and this is going to be 'tough love'.

There isn't EVER a good time to lose weight, or to do anything we don't
REALLY want to do. You seem to have some reasons why you can't stick to a
diet, in this case weight watchers, and we really can't give you one. We
can answer your questions, but we can't answer your question behind the
question: Why can't I eat what I want and still lose weight.

If you don't want to control your portion size (eesh, 10 bananas?) have
you
considered exercising more? Walking, hiking, swimming, riding your bike?
To fill your stomach drink black coffee, black tea, diet soda, water.

You WILL have to sacrifice somethings to lose weight. Also, out of
curisoity how much do you weight and how tall are you?

In all seriousness, good luck. If you can't stick to a plan, pick
something
you can stick with. What you might want to consider is to journal
everything that you eat, in a normal non dieting day, and then scale down
from there.


I think you've misunderstood some of my post and what I'm trying to ask. I
never said that I didn't want to control my portion size, and when I wrote
'10 bananas' I was obviously exagerating and semi-joking. I know all the
obvious ways to lose weight such as exercising more. Anyone who has tried to
lose weight as many times as I have will know the basics very well. I have
been doing very well losing weight the last 2 weeks and have been doing a
lot more walking than I used to. Things like bike riding and swimming though
aren't possible for someone like me who is very overweight, for what should
be obvious reasons.

I know I have to sacrafice things to lose weight, and that is what I've been
doing. I don't really want to admit my weight-Not even my girlfriend or
Parents know so I hope you understand that. I'm just embarrassed about it,
rightly or wrongly. I am 6 foot tall though, but that doesn't really help
you without knowing my weight too.

All I need to know is zero points food, and some of you have suggested some
things, and I'm grateful for the help.

Geoff.

I have to agree with bucknaked. You have to WANT to lose weight for
starters. Quit making excuses or you will never succeed with WW. Secondly,
you have to be willing to make the long-term aka permanent commitment to a
new healthier way of eating. If this means eating small portions of higher
calorie foods or eating lots of low point foods then that is what is going
to take to lose weight.

"Geoff" wrote in message
...
"Lachelle" wrote in message
om...
There isnt much besides veggies that are 0 points, so controlled
portions are the way to go. Definately try sugar free pudding and
jello. They are low in points. Or fat free cool whip. Which is
delicious. Especially frozen. Its technically zero points for the
serving but if you eat alot count it for one or two. You can make a
pretty good snack of pudding topped with cool whip and sprinkles.
Also sugar free hard candy or gum can get you through a lot. Good
luck and stick to it!


Hi Lachelle. Thanks for replying to me. To be honest I'm not too keen on
trying low sugar things but I know I'm just being silly so I'll think
about
your suggestions (after I've converted all those things to what they're
called in England!).

As for sticking to it...I don't know if I can. Life isn't too happy right
now and in a way the worst time to try and lose weight, but if I don't do
it
soon I won't live to see the next 10 years so I have to try. I need local
support but that doesn't exist for me. Well not unless I pay Weigh
Watchers
and I refuse to pay an organisation just so I can sit in a room and talk
to
people.

Thanks again for your help,
Geoff.

"Laura" wrote in message
...
I have to agree with bucknaked. You have to WANT to lose weight for
starters. Quit making excuses or you will never succeed with WW. Secondly,
you have to be willing to make the long-term aka permanent commitment to a
new healthier way of eating. If this means eating small portions of higher
calorie foods or eating lots of low point foods then that is what is going
to take to lose weight.


Hi Laura. I DO want to lose weight. I'm not sure why you think I don't? I
wouldn't be here if I didn't want to. I wasn't making excuses at all? I'm
just saying that I find it very tough, as does everyone who's trying to lose
weight. I am also making a long term commitement to a new healthier way of
eating, and I am constantly working on that, hense asking for suggestions
here of what zero point foods I could eat.

Geoff.

This makes me very sad to read this, if you had a cut that needed stitches
you would pay someone to clean and sew you up, WW is a health provider as
far as I am concerned. Rather than thinking of it as a weakness perhaps,
you should see the strength in asking for, paying for and receiving the
assistance you need to accomplish your goals, Lee
Geoff wrote in message
...
"Lachelle" wrote in message
om...
There isnt much besides veggies that are 0 points, so controlled
portions are the way to go. Definately try sugar free pudding and
jello. They are low in points. Or fat free cool whip. Which is
delicious. Especially frozen. Its technically zero points for the
serving but if you eat alot count it for one or two. You can make a
pretty good snack of pudding topped with cool whip and sprinkles.
Also sugar free hard candy or gum can get you through a lot. Good
luck and stick to it!


Hi Lachelle. Thanks for replying to me. To be honest I'm not too keen on
trying low sugar things but I know I'm just being silly so I'll think
about
your suggestions (after I've converted all those things to what they're
called in England!).

As for sticking to it...I don't know if I can. Life isn't too happy right
now and in a way the worst time to try and lose weight, but if I don't do
it
soon I won't live to see the next 10 years so I have to try. I need local
support but that doesn't exist for me. Well not unless I pay Weigh
Watchers
and I refuse to pay an organisation just so I can sit in a room and talk
to
people.

Thanks again for your help,
Geoff.

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
This makes me very sad to read this, if you had a cut that needed stitches
you would pay someone to clean and sew you up, WW is a health provider as
far as I am concerned. Rather than thinking of it as a weakness perhaps,
you should see the strength in asking for, paying for and receiving the
assistance you need to accomplish your goals, Lee

Hello Lee. I agree with you in principle but I can't see what paying WW
would do for me? I have asked people this before and they start being very
cruel and arguing with me as if I'm trying to be difficult! I'm not doing
that so PLEASE don't take me the wrong way or in an offensive way. I simply
get a little put off at the thought of paying a company when the only extra
thing they can give me that I don't already have access to (via my Mother
who is a member) is a room to sit in with other people. That IS a huge
benefit, I admit that, but I would like to see those people as friends (it
is friends that I really need) and I wouldn't normally pay to make friends.
I do still think it maybe worth my while though but at the moment I'm not
going with that option.

I am not actually that interested in following WW anymore than just using
their points system anyway. I like the idea of their points system simply
because it's helpful to be able to categorise food like that and also to
have a target to work towards, and that is helping me at the moment. I think
I would gain very little by paying WW though when my Mother is already a
member.

Geoff.

Geoff wrote:

"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...

This makes me very sad to read this, if you had a cut that needed stitches
you would pay someone to clean and sew you up, WW is a health provider as
far as I am concerned. Rather than thinking of it as a weakness perhaps,
you should see the strength in asking for, paying for and receiving the
assistance you need to accomplish your goals, Lee


Hello Lee. I agree with you in principle but I can't see what paying WW
would do for me? I have asked people this before and they start being very
cruel and arguing with me as if I'm trying to be difficult! I'm not doing
that so PLEASE don't take me the wrong way or in an offensive way. I simply
get a little put off at the thought of paying a company when the only extra
thing they can give me that I don't already have access to (via my Mother
who is a member) is a room to sit in with other people. That IS a huge
benefit, I admit that, but I would like to see those people as friends (it
is friends that I really need) and I wouldn't normally pay to make friends.
I do still think it maybe worth my while though but at the moment I'm not
going with that option.

I am not actually that interested in following WW anymore than just using
their points system anyway. I like the idea of their points system simply
because it's helpful to be able to categorise food like that and also to
have a target to work towards, and that is helping me at the moment. I think
I would gain very little by paying WW though when my Mother is already a
member.

Geoff.


One of the things I really like about the meetings I go to is the
support: the helping hand along the way, the flow of ideas for new foods
to try and the discussion of all the different things that work for the
different people. There is also the psychological aspect of paying: it
makes ME more determined to stay on program!

And one of the best things about WW is that NOTHING is forbidden, no
food is bad, and no-one condemns you for what you do. Everything has a
points value, from cheese to chocolate, and YOU choose what to spend the
points on. Every discarded pound is celebrated, and every gain mourned
without blame. Strategies for getting back in the groove are suggested
for the ones who stray, and altogether we have a serious giggle!

Stop for a moment and turn the question round: rather than thinking
'What would going to the meetings do for me?', ask 'What is NOT going to
meetings doing for me?'

It isn't helping you to lose weight
It isn't giving you the example of others to follow
It isn't teaching you to re-educate your tastes and food habits
It isn't helping you not to feel guilty about food
It isn't teaching you about healthy options for eating out
It isn't providing you with a helpline in times of need
It isn't providing you with a pleasant social occasion to look forward
to every week

I'm sure you can think of a lot more. And yes, you CAN get some of
these things in other ways, but it's great to get them all at once!

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