Whey vs. Soy -- You've Been Tricked

Is protein all the same? What does all the jargon mean? What is the
best source of protein?

Whey vs. Soy -- You've Been Tricked

http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/soyvswhy.htm

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Is protein all the same? What does all the jargon mean? What is the
best source of protein?

Whey vs. Soy -- You've Been Tricked

http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/soyvswhy.htm

Soy makes me fart.
Whey doesn't.

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On Thu, 17 May 2007, wrote:

Whey vs. Soy -- You've Been Tricked

SOY! SOY! SOY! Soy makes you strong! Strength crushes enemies! SOY!

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Is protein all the same?

No. Soy is inferior to whey in almsot every respect.

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Is protein all the same?

"No. Soy is inferior to whey in almsot every respect."

Then you didn't read the article, the proper comparison is not protein
to protein but isolate to isolate of the protein products. They are
different but "better" depends on what measure of what one uses for what
goal. He goes into considerable detail on the topic.

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Is protein all the same?

"No. Soy is inferior to whey in almsot every respect."

Then you didn't read the article,

I dont have to. I know more about the topic than the author ever will and
have written and published more on the topic than the author ever will.

the proper comparison is not protein
to protein but isolate to isolate of the protein products.

That makes no sense and exposes the ignorance of the person who said it (you?).

They are
different but "better" depends on what measure of what one uses for what
goal.

Pretty much any goal you can name, whey is superior, unless your goal is
to get phyto estrogens into your diet, which is fine, if that's what you
want. I am not an anti soy zealot but facts is facts.

He goes into considerable detail on the topic.

Most of which are all wrong ad it's clear the author sells soy.

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On May 16, 7:45 pm, wrote:
Is protein all the same? What does all the jargon mean? What is the
best source of protein?

Whey vs. Soy -- You've Been Tricked

http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/soyvswhy.htm

Neither is ideal by any stretch of the imagination. Eat proteins from
real whole foods, not processed and refined (denatured) proteins.

And soy is not real food. It has only been traditionally eaten as a
fermented condiment. That is fermented and in small amounts for
flavoring. Without fermentation you will be exposed to excessive
amounts of phyto-toxins and phyto-hormones. Unfermented soy is a low-
grade poison.

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Tunderbar wrote:

On May 16, 7:45 pm, wrote:
Is protein all the same? What does all the jargon mean? What is the
best source of protein?

Whey vs. Soy -- You've Been Tricked

http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/soyvswhy.htm

Neither is ideal by any stretch of the imagination. Eat proteins from
real whole foods, not processed and refined (denatured) proteins.

And soy is not real food. It has only been traditionally eaten as a
fermented condiment. That is fermented and in small amounts for
flavoring. Without fermentation you will be exposed to excessive
amounts of phyto-toxins and phyto-hormones. Unfermented soy is a low-
grade poison.

Ok, I'll agree with that one.

Same goes for unfermented dairy products (except for whey protein
isolates).

IMHO cottage cheese, yogurt and hard cheeses are better for you than
even raw milk.

Sorry, no sites to prove that. Just comes from many years of experience
for what agrees with most people's digestive systems.

Symbiotic bacteria are a good thing. :-)
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"Omelet" wrote

Symbiotic bacteria are a good thing. :-)

I tried, several times over the years, to take "probiotic" capsules and
all they ever did was give me an upset stomach, but lately I've been
getting some live, ethnic-type yogurt almost every day and I like it. I
couldn't quantify what it's done for me except that I feel better - a
bit more energy, a bit less sleepy in the evenings, and I think a bit
less hungry overall as well.

This is the stuff I have mostly:

http://www.amazon.com/Fage-Total-Pla.../dp/B00032K91A

although we just buy it in the store, not through amazon.com - either
that or some Greek yogurt from Trader Joe's. The former tastes great
with maple syrup added, and in the latter honey and walnuts, which is
the way we had it when we were in Greece.

-S-
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"Omelet" wrote

Symbiotic bacteria are a good thing. :-)

I tried, several times over the years, to take "probiotic" capsules and
all they ever did was give me an upset stomach, but lately I've been
getting some live, ethnic-type yogurt almost every day and I like it. I
couldn't quantify what it's done for me except that I feel better - a
bit more energy, a bit less sleepy in the evenings, and I think a bit
less hungry overall as well.

The fascinating thing about humans is how everybody's body chemistry
varies. I'm glad you found something that worked for you.

Me?

I just take PB-8 and skip the Lactose sugars in most dairy products.
Granted, I adore cheese, but I use it in limited quantities:

http://www.sweetmedicineessentials.com/product/216553

I can get it at more than one local health food store and I can't help
but think that a balanced mix of probiotic critters is better than just
Lactobacillus acidophilus.


This is the stuff I have mostly:

http://www.amazon.com/Fage-Total-Pla.../dp/B00032K91A

Looks good, but I've never seen it here.


although we just buy it in the store, not through amazon.com - either
that or some Greek yogurt from Trader Joe's. The former tastes great
with maple syrup added, and in the latter honey and walnuts, which is
the way we had it when we were in Greece.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
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