Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 11/27/07.

In article "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" writes:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal) demon hissed:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c9970b08a47a2?

"The experiences of more than 625,550 people over a period of more
than 5 years invariably achieving sustained healthy weightloss has
inspired the offering of an unprecedented two-million dollar
guarantee:" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.

Funny how we never hear from any of those more than 625,550 people
telling how great the 2PD-OMER approach has been. Seems if that many
people were successful with sustaining healthy weightloss, someone
other than Andrew (or MU) would be talking about it.

Odder yet that out of a third of a million or so practicing
physicians, only about 0.0003% of these (or, rounding off
to the nearest physician: 1) recommend the 2DP-OMER "approach".

Without the LORD, your (and satan's) fantasies are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

So then other physicians DO recommend this "approach"?

Why don't you list a few. (you may use the back of this post
if you require more room):

Those physician-colleagues who choose not to recommend the 2PD-OMER
Approach to their obese patients are themselves suffering from the
delusion that hunger is bad:

On the other hand, why don't you list a few of the other doctors
who DO recommend the 2PD-OMER approach:
































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-- cary

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal) demon hissed:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c9970b08a47a2?

"The experiences of more than 625,550 people over a period of more
than 5 years invariably achieving sustained healthy weightloss has
inspired the offering of an unprecedented two-million dollar
guarantee:" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.

Funny how we never hear from any of those more than 625,550 people
telling how great the 2PD-OMER approach has been. Seems if that many
people were successful with sustaining healthy weightloss, someone
other than Andrew (or MU) would be talking about it.

Odder yet that out of a third of a million or so practicing
physicians, only about 0.0003% of these (or, rounding off
to the nearest physician: 1) recommend the 2DP-OMER "approach".

Without the LORD, your (and satan's) fantasies are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

So then other physicians DO recommend this "approach"?

Why don't you list a few. (you may use the back of this post
if you require more room):

Those physician-colleagues who choose not to recommend the 2PD-OMER
Approach to their obese patients are themselves suffering from the
delusion that hunger is bad:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess

On the other hand, why don't you list a few of the other doctors
who DO recommend the 2PD-OMER approach:

It is easier to list (it is a much shorter list) physician-colleagues
who do not recommend the 2PD-OMER Approach...

.... only personally know of one:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/JasonDocMD

Sadly, this one is no longer with us in spirit since his soul died
from his unwise choice to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit.

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for your endangered
soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal) demon hissed:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c9970b08a47a2?

"The experiences of more than 625,550 people over a period of more
than 5 years invariably achieving sustained healthy weightloss has
inspired the offering of an unprecedented two-million dollar
guarantee:" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.

Funny how we never hear from any of those more than 625,550 people
telling how great the 2PD-OMER approach has been. Seems if that many
people were successful with sustaining healthy weightloss, someone
other than Andrew (or MU) would be talking about it.

Odder yet that out of a third of a million or so practicing
physicians, only about 0.0003% of these (or, rounding off
to the nearest physician: 1) recommend the 2DP-OMER "approach".

Without the LORD, your (and satan's) fantasies are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

So then other physicians DO recommend this "approach"?

Why don't you list a few. (you may use the back of this post
if you require more room):

Those physician-colleagues who choose not to recommend the 2PD-OMER
Approach to their obese patients are themselves suffering from the
delusion that hunger is bad:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess

On the other hand, why don't you list a few of the other doctors
who DO recommend the 2PD-OMER approach:

It is easier to list (it is a much shorter list) physician-colleagues
who do not recommend the 2PD-OMER Approach...

I'll simplify my original question then: please list fifteen
physicians, other than yourself, who do recommend the 2PD-OMER
approach to their patients.

The physicians I personally know do not wish to be named here on
Usenet because they are wary of what they have witnessed here.

It remains my choice to respect their wishes.

However, there was a survey conducted on Sermo that yielded results
that revealed that more than half of the physician participants are
now recommending the 2PD-OMER Approach to their obese patients.

It is possible that this extrapolates to more than 17,000 U.S.
physicians.

Laus Deo ! ! !

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for your endangered
soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

In article "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" writes:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal) demon hissed:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c9970b08a47a2?

"The experiences of more than 625,550 people over a period of more
than 5 years invariably achieving sustained healthy weightloss has
inspired the offering of an unprecedented two-million dollar
guarantee:" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.

Funny how we never hear from any of those more than 625,550 people
telling how great the 2PD-OMER approach has been. Seems if that many
people were successful with sustaining healthy weightloss, someone
other than Andrew (or MU) would be talking about it.

Odder yet that out of a third of a million or so practicing
physicians, only about 0.0003% of these (or, rounding off
to the nearest physician: 1) recommend the 2DP-OMER "approach".

Without the LORD, your (and satan's) fantasies are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

So then other physicians DO recommend this "approach"?

Why don't you list a few. (you may use the back of this post
if you require more room):

Those physician-colleagues who choose not to recommend the 2PD-OMER
Approach to their obese patients are themselves suffering from the
delusion that hunger is bad:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess

On the other hand, why don't you list a few of the other doctors
who DO recommend the 2PD-OMER approach:

It is easier to list (it is a much shorter list) physician-colleagues
who do not recommend the 2PD-OMER Approach...

I'll simplify my original question then: please list fifteen
physicians, other than yourself, who do recommend the 2PD-OMER
approach to their patients.

The physicians I personally know do not wish to be named here on
Usenet because they are wary of what they have witnessed here.

Translated from the Chungian (why do I feel like Garrett Morris
here?): "There are none".

insert obligatoory Ecclesastes bit here

-- cary

In article "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" writes:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal) demon hissed:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c9970b08a47a2?

"The experiences of more than 625,550 people over a period of more
than 5 years invariably achieving sustained healthy weightloss has
inspired the offering of an unprecedented two-million dollar
guarantee:" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.

Funny how we never hear from any of those more than 625,550 people
telling how great the 2PD-OMER approach has been. Seems if that many
people were successful with sustaining healthy weightloss, someone
other than Andrew (or MU) would be talking about it.

Odder yet that out of a third of a million or so practicing
physicians, only about 0.0003% of these (or, rounding off
to the nearest physician: 1) recommend the 2DP-OMER "approach".

Without the LORD, your (and satan's) fantasies are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

So then other physicians DO recommend this "approach"?

Why don't you list a few. (you may use the back of this post
if you require more room):

Those physician-colleagues who choose not to recommend the 2PD-OMER
Approach to their obese patients are themselves suffering from the
delusion that hunger is bad:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess

On the other hand, why don't you list a few of the other doctors
who DO recommend the 2PD-OMER approach:

It is easier to list (it is a much shorter list) physician-colleagues
who do not recommend the 2PD-OMER Approach...

I'll simplify my original question then: please list fifteen
physicians, other than yourself, who do recommend the 2PD-OMER
approach to their patients.

The physicians I personally know do not wish to be named here on
Usenet because they are wary of what they have witnessed here.

It remains my choice to respect their wishes.

Ooooh, overlooked this bit:


However, there was a survey conducted on Sermo that yielded results
that revealed that more than half of the physician participants are
now recommending the 2PD-OMER Approach to their obese patients.

It is possible that this extrapolates to more than 17,000 U.S.
physicians.


"Yamantaka", care to give us the Planet Reality version of
this claim?



-- cary

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...949d9bab0cb0b?

Translated from the Chungian (why do I feel like Garrett Morris
here?): "There are none".

Thankfully, the discerning do not require your translation services.

May we, who are discerning, continue to pray for your deeply troubled
soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal) demon hissed:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c9970b08a47a2?

"The experiences of more than 625,550 people over a period of more
than 5 years invariably achieving sustained healthy weightloss has
inspired the offering of an unprecedented two-million dollar
guarantee:" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.

Funny how we never hear from any of those more than 625,550 people
telling how great the 2PD-OMER approach has been. Seems if that many
people were successful with sustaining healthy weightloss, someone
other than Andrew (or MU) would be talking about it.

Odder yet that out of a third of a million or so practicing
physicians, only about 0.0003% of these (or, rounding off
to the nearest physician: 1) recommend the 2DP-OMER "approach".

Without the LORD, your (and satan's) fantasies are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

So then other physicians DO recommend this "approach"?

Why don't you list a few. (you may use the back of this post
if you require more room):

Those physician-colleagues who choose not to recommend the 2PD-OMER
Approach to their obese patients are themselves suffering from the
delusion that hunger is bad:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess

On the other hand, why don't you list a few of the other doctors
who DO recommend the 2PD-OMER approach:

It is easier to list (it is a much shorter list) physician-colleagues
who do not recommend the 2PD-OMER Approach...

I'll simplify my original question then: please list fifteen
physicians, other than yourself, who do recommend the 2PD-OMER
approach to their patients.

The physicians I personally know do not wish to be named here on
Usenet because they are wary of what they have witnessed here.

It remains my choice to respect their wishes.

Ooooh, overlooked this bit:


However, there was a survey conducted on Sermo that yielded results
that revealed that more than half of the physician participants are
now recommending the 2PD-OMER Approach to their obese patients.

It is possible that this extrapolates to more than 17,000 U.S.
physicians.


"Yamantaka", care to give us the Planet Reality version of
this claim?

"Yamantaka" has already falsely claimed that the survey results came
from those who were attempting to be humorous.

The simple fact that only "Yamantaka" (out of 35,000 Sermo physicians)
has ventured out here onto Usenet to express an opposing view about
the 2PD-OMER Approach adds to the validity of the survey results
indicating that more than half of the physician participants are
indeed now recommending the 2PD-OMER Approach to their obese
patients.

Perhaps their knowing about the two-million dollar guarantee is
serving to motivate them:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guarantee

In the interim, may we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for
your deeply troubled and endangered soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

In article "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" writes:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal) demon hissed:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c9970b08a47a2?

"The experiences of more than 625,550 people over a period of more
than 5 years invariably achieving sustained healthy weightloss has
inspired the offering of an unprecedented two-million dollar
guarantee:" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.

Funny how we never hear from any of those more than 625,550 people
telling how great the 2PD-OMER approach has been. Seems if that many
people were successful with sustaining healthy weightloss, someone
other than Andrew (or MU) would be talking about it.

Odder yet that out of a third of a million or so practicing
physicians, only about 0.0003% of these (or, rounding off
to the nearest physician: 1) recommend the 2DP-OMER "approach".

Without the LORD, your (and satan's) fantasies are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

So then other physicians DO recommend this "approach"?

Why don't you list a few. (you may use the back of this post
if you require more room):

Those physician-colleagues who choose not to recommend the 2PD-OMER
Approach to their obese patients are themselves suffering from the
delusion that hunger is bad:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess

On the other hand, why don't you list a few of the other doctors
who DO recommend the 2PD-OMER approach:

It is easier to list (it is a much shorter list) physician-colleagues
who do not recommend the 2PD-OMER Approach...

I'll simplify my original question then: please list fifteen
physicians, other than yourself, who do recommend the 2PD-OMER
approach to their patients.

The physicians I personally know do not wish to be named here on
Usenet because they are wary of what they have witnessed here.

It remains my choice to respect their wishes.

Ooooh, overlooked this bit:


However, there was a survey conducted on Sermo that yielded results
that revealed that more than half of the physician participants are
now recommending the 2PD-OMER Approach to their obese patients.

It is possible that this extrapolates to more than 17,000 U.S.
physicians.


"Yamantaka", care to give us the Planet Reality version of
this claim?

"Yamantaka" has already falsely claimed that the survey results came
from those who were attempting to be humorous.

Yes, but as that is an explanation both obvious and compelling, it had
already ocurred to me. Within seconds.


The simple fact that only "Yamantaka" (out of 35,000 Sermo physicians)
has ventured out here onto Usenet to express an opposing view about
the 2PD-OMER Approach

....is easily explained by the fact that the average doctor is
hardly lurking about these groups, and in fact is most likely
totally unaware of the existence of Usenet froups.

And would hardly care, even if he were.

adds to the validity of the survey results

Addition of zero is an idempotent operation.

-- cary


indicating that more than half of the physician participants are
indeed now recommending the 2PD-OMER Approach to their obese
patients.

Perhaps their knowing about the two-million dollar guarantee is
serving to motivate them:


http://HeartMDPhD.com/Guarantee

In the interim, may we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for
your deeply troubled and endangered soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

As a PhD, I'm sure you understand the necessity of presenting a theory
or approach before pier review, and that said pier review must be
citable. Agreed? I think what's being asked here, is where is the pier
review? What university study or medical journal is it contained in?
What other physicians or nutritionists mention it in any sort of
publication, journal, website, blog etc? Show 'em and put this thing
to rest :-)

Jesus answered, "It is written:
'Man does not live on bread alone,
but on every word that comes
from the mouth of God.'"
Matthew 4:4

convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal) demon hissed:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c9970b08a47a2?

"The experiences of more than 625,550 people over a period of more
than 5 years invariably achieving sustained healthy weightloss has
inspired the offering of an unprecedented two-million dollar
guarantee:" -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.

Funny how we never hear from any of those more than 625,550 people
telling how great the 2PD-OMER approach has been. Seems if that many
people were successful with sustaining healthy weightloss, someone
other than Andrew (or MU) would be talking about it.

Odder yet that out of a third of a million or so practicing
physicians, only about 0.0003% of these (or, rounding off
to the nearest physician: 1) recommend the 2DP-OMER "approach".

Without the LORD, your (and satan's) fantasies are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).

So then other physicians DO recommend this "approach"?

Why don't you list a few. (you may use the back of this post
if you require more room):

Those physician-colleagues who choose not to recommend the 2PD-OMER
Approach to their obese patients are themselves suffering from the
delusion that hunger is bad:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/EatLess

On the other hand, why don't you list a few of the other doctors
who DO recommend the 2PD-OMER approach:

It is easier to list (it is a much shorter list) physician-colleagues
who do not recommend the 2PD-OMER Approach...

I'll simplify my original question then: please list fifteen
physicians, other than yourself, who do recommend the 2PD-OMER
approach to their patients.

The physicians I personally know do not wish to be named here on
Usenet because they are wary of what they have witnessed here.

It remains my choice to respect their wishes.

Ooooh, overlooked this bit:


However, there was a survey conducted on Sermo that yielded results
that revealed that more than half of the physician participants are
now recommending the 2PD-OMER Approach to their obese patients.

It is possible that this extrapolates to more than 17,000 U.S.
physicians.

"Yamantaka", care to give us the Planet Reality version of
this claim?

"Yamantaka" has already falsely claimed that the survey results came
from those who were attempting to be humorous.

Yes, but as that is an explanation both obvious and compelling, it had
already ocurred to me. Within seconds.

Thankfully, there were additional questions, including open format
free response ones, that allow us to determine this was not the case.


The simple fact that only "Yamantaka" (out of 35,000 Sermo physicians)
has ventured out here onto Usenet to express an opposing view about
the 2PD-OMER Approach

...is easily explained by the fact that the average doctor is
hardly lurking about these groups, and in fact is most likely
totally unaware of the existence of Usenet froups.

This is countered by the fact that "Yamantaka" has revealed that some
Sermo posts included links that has allowed Sermo physicians to easily
venture onto sci.med.cardiology. Indeed, "Yamantaka" found his way
here by these links as did JasonDocMD.

And would hardly care, even if he were.

Clearly, "Yamantaka" and JasonDocMD has expressed their opposition to
the 2PD-OMER Approach.

adds to the validity of the survey results

Addition of zero is an idempotent operation.

Their negative reaction is hardly zero reaction.

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for your endangered
soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.