What is the most weight you can lose

Rich wrote:

but this is enough for now.


I'll say.........


Dally
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starting weight/current weight/goal weight, but since I'm focused on
reaching a goal body fat percentage more than a goal weight, I also show
my starting body fat percentage, my current body fat percentage and my
goal body fat percentage.

A woman aiming to be 23% is not going to be a fitness model. That'd be
a curvy size 12 on me, with excess fat on my hips and maybe a bit of
heft to my calves and upper arms. An athletic look might be at around
18%. I put my goals down to indicate what I'm looking for. This site
gives some broad range ideas of what body fat percentages mean.

http://www.healthchecksystems.com/bodyfat.htm

Dally

"Dally" wrote in message
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Rich wrote:

but this is enough for now.


I'll say.........


Dally
244/174/168
42/26/23%


starting weight/current weight/goal weight, but since I'm focused on
reaching a goal body fat percentage more than a goal weight, I also show
my starting body fat percentage, my current body fat percentage and my
goal body fat percentage.

A woman aiming to be 23% is not going to be a fitness model. That'd be
a curvy size 12 on me, with excess fat on my hips and maybe a bit of
heft to my calves and upper arms. An athletic look might be at around
18%. I put my goals down to indicate what I'm looking for. This site
gives some broad range ideas of what body fat percentages mean.

http://www.healthchecksystems.com/bodyfat.htm

Dally


Thanks for your responses.

Rich

"Dally" wrote in message
...
Rich wrote:

but this is enough for now.


I'll say.........


Dally
244/174/168
42/26/23%


starting weight/current weight/goal weight, but since I'm focused on
reaching a goal body fat percentage more than a goal weight, I also show
my starting body fat percentage, my current body fat percentage and my
goal body fat percentage.

A woman aiming to be 23% is not going to be a fitness model. That'd be
a curvy size 12 on me, with excess fat on my hips and maybe a bit of
heft to my calves and upper arms. An athletic look might be at around
18%. I put my goals down to indicate what I'm looking for. This site
gives some broad range ideas of what body fat percentages mean.

http://www.healthchecksystems.com/bodyfat.htm

Dally


Thanks for your responses.

Rich

"KittenLove99" wrote in message
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per day? per week?

Reasonnable is considered 2lbs/week. Some even say as low as 1lb/week.
Though it's hard to get a general rule. Men tend to lose weight faster than
women, and seem to do that safely. Very-overweight people tend to lose the
first pounds pretty fast, and then it slows down.
As a woman with only a little to lose, you could expect 1lb/week to be a
decent rate, the last pounds tend to be pretty slow. You can also expect
some stalls, or even some bumps. As long as the trend doesn't go off track,
this is pretty normal.

I have been trying a new diet and have lost 8 pounds in 5
days. I have never lost so quick before. Is this even possible??

Are you doing a low carb diet? A strict proteidic diet? If you don't get
carbs from food, you use up your glucose stores from your liver and muscles.
Each molecule of glucose is bound to several molecules of water (4 IIRC),
which is dumped when the glucose is release. That's quite a lot of weight.
That's probably most of what you lost, you litterally peed it out.
Unfortunately, it's mostly water. You will get most of it back if you eat
carbs in significant amount - but again, it will mostly be water.
You will get a real significant rate of loss next week.
In the meantime, don't forget you're dumping water : *drink*

But all of a sudden I dump 8 pounds in 5
days. Has this happened to anyone before?

IF you check alt.support.diet.low-carb, it has happen to about everyone
there...

What about anorexics? People who starve totally...how much do they lose a
day,
a week?

Since they eat no carb, they will lose that water weight. Then, you can
expect them to lose *slower* than someone on a more reasonnable diet. The
human body is well designed, it has a good strategy to deal with extended
famines. By default, your body thinks that any starving that lasts more than
a few days is going to last for months. When it detects one (no food for
several day is a good sign), it starts burning muscles (reduces basal
metabolism, muscles are expensive to maintain) and does everything it can to
slow down your metabolism : turns you apathic, reduces unconscious moves,
makes you sleepy... After a several days of starving, your body will be able
to live on 1000 calories a day, or less. And of course, once you stop
starving yourself after an extensive fasting, you will have a body left with
as little muscles as possible, a very low metabolism and that it completely
tuned towards being as economic as possible. It will be also very efficient
at storing new body fat to survive the next famine that is bound to happen
(your body is a pessimistic). That's how anorexics manage to survive their
illness for so long.
On the other hand, most well designed diets will attempt *not* to trigger
the starvation mode. One way is to keep the calories high enough to stay
within your body's comfort zone. Then, your body's metabolism stays much
higher, and the calorie deficit can actually be close or even higher than
what you get from pure starvation.

"KittenLove99" wrote in message
...
per day? per week?

Reasonnable is considered 2lbs/week. Some even say as low as 1lb/week.
Though it's hard to get a general rule. Men tend to lose weight faster than
women, and seem to do that safely. Very-overweight people tend to lose the
first pounds pretty fast, and then it slows down.
As a woman with only a little to lose, you could expect 1lb/week to be a
decent rate, the last pounds tend to be pretty slow. You can also expect
some stalls, or even some bumps. As long as the trend doesn't go off track,
this is pretty normal.

I have been trying a new diet and have lost 8 pounds in 5
days. I have never lost so quick before. Is this even possible??

Are you doing a low carb diet? A strict proteidic diet? If you don't get
carbs from food, you use up your glucose stores from your liver and muscles.
Each molecule of glucose is bound to several molecules of water (4 IIRC),
which is dumped when the glucose is release. That's quite a lot of weight.
That's probably most of what you lost, you litterally peed it out.
Unfortunately, it's mostly water. You will get most of it back if you eat
carbs in significant amount - but again, it will mostly be water.
You will get a real significant rate of loss next week.
In the meantime, don't forget you're dumping water : *drink*

But all of a sudden I dump 8 pounds in 5
days. Has this happened to anyone before?

IF you check alt.support.diet.low-carb, it has happen to about everyone
there...

What about anorexics? People who starve totally...how much do they lose a
day,
a week?

Since they eat no carb, they will lose that water weight. Then, you can
expect them to lose *slower* than someone on a more reasonnable diet. The
human body is well designed, it has a good strategy to deal with extended
famines. By default, your body thinks that any starving that lasts more than
a few days is going to last for months. When it detects one (no food for
several day is a good sign), it starts burning muscles (reduces basal
metabolism, muscles are expensive to maintain) and does everything it can to
slow down your metabolism : turns you apathic, reduces unconscious moves,
makes you sleepy... After a several days of starving, your body will be able
to live on 1000 calories a day, or less. And of course, once you stop
starving yourself after an extensive fasting, you will have a body left with
as little muscles as possible, a very low metabolism and that it completely
tuned towards being as economic as possible. It will be also very efficient
at storing new body fat to survive the next famine that is bound to happen
(your body is a pessimistic). That's how anorexics manage to survive their
illness for so long.
On the other hand, most well designed diets will attempt *not* to trigger
the starvation mode. One way is to keep the calories high enough to stay
within your body's comfort zone. Then, your body's metabolism stays much
higher, and the calorie deficit can actually be close or even higher than
what you get from pure starvation.

Dally wrote in message ...
Well, the absolute best site I could send you to is Mistress Krista's -
she's got everything in there you'll ever need, but maybe you could
start by going to this page:

http://www.stumptuous.com/dietsdontwork.html

And then read everything on the Eating section at the main site at:

http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html

Here's one that talks a bit about why you need to train and eat smart to
burn preferentially from fat stores. It's part of a much larger site
that goes into deep scientific detail on how energy is used, too, but
start with the easy stuff:
http://www.hussman.org/fitness/deficit.htm

Here's a couple about why you want to measure body fat percentages
rather than weight - it's really silly to aim for some random number
when every body is different.

http://www.healthchecksystems.com/bodyfat.htm

And here are two different body fat calculators: they give radically
different answers for me and I trust the first one more than the second
one, but the second one might be better for people who were never obese:

http://www.biofitness.com/bodyfat.html
http://www.he.net/~zone/prothd2.html

For some nuts and bolts tools for weight loss I recommend you track your
food at http://www.Fitday.com. Pay particular attention to portion
sizes - this requires that you measure for a while. Measuring and
logging are excellent tools to have in your diet toolbox and you'll find
yourself coming back to them once in a while for the rest of your life
when you need a sanity check on your diet.

To learn how to do free weights (after you've read everything at
Krista's site) go to http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html for a primer on
what exercises work what muscles and how to do them.

If you're going to get away from the scale (and I hope you've figured
out that you need to by now) then I recommend you log your
transformation someplace that pays attention to your changes from
several points of view. This one shows pictures, measurements, body fat
percentages as well as weight in a table format.
http://www.body-for-life-tracker.com/ You can find my profile by
searching for Dally. Take a look at it and notice how slowly I'm losing
weight. In the past four months I've only lost 4 pounds. But I've lost
another inch off of my hips and more than an inch off of my waist. Do
you think a pound a month is too slow? It's not for me because I get
feedback from other ways that my changes are coming along.

There's more, but this is enough for now.

Dally
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good post