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Old August 10th, 2004, 05:47 PM
Lictor
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"Ignoramus29819" wrote in message
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Both my dad and mom realize that they need to find a good
endocrinologist, that's the task for now.


You also need a good dietitian. A real one I mean, not one that push a
xeroxed paper at you and tell you to follow the instructions. One that is
able to listen to your dad and work something around his wishes and habits.
One that has some notions of common human psychology too.
With the rise of obesity, dietitians have become as common as lawyers, but
the total amount of good dietitians seems to be going ever lower...

I am not a diabetic like my dad (yet), but I also saw several problems
go away with a mere 10 lbs weight loss.


Yup, it's pretty impressive how quickly the body can recover once you let
even a little presure off it.
I think the key is to step very small steps rather than a single far away
one. And to find enough at each step to be happy about climbing it. Lost 5
pounds - FG is getting lower. Lost 5 more pounds - joint aches are getting
better, post prandial is improving. And so on.

Well, yes, getting a 20% calorie deficit, dropping most junk carbs,
and walking one hour a day would go quite far. He is not too averse to
walking, but again, many beautiful words can be said, but the key is
actually doing something every day.


I suspect *even* just walking would already do wonders...
Yes, it's hard to get started. The problem is that he is the only person in
the world able to take that decision for himself.


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Old August 10th, 2004, 08:41 PM
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"Ignoramus29819" wrote in message
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I do not even know how to look for a good dietitian, like you said,
not an airhead who gives out xeroxed papers.


Well, I mostly found mine from a book I had read on the no-dieting approach.
Several like minded people have created an association which has a site, and
a list of doctors (dietitians, nutritionists, psychologists) that have
signed a charter I found I could agree to. I don't know if the US
distinguishes between dietitians (Master degree) and nutritionist (real
doctor) like we do. Of course, it's French only, so I guess it's not helping
But maybe there are similar associations in the US. I guess diabetic
associations maintain a list of good dietitians. Or even an association of
people with eating disorders. You mostly want to avoid the dietitians who
only deal with high revenue 30s who want to fit in their bikini for the
summer... Or you can try to find like-minded people in your area who already
know a good one. People on usenet in your area might have had good
experiences, you could always check alt.support.diabete.
If you do happen to know a really good doctor, even in an unrelated field,
it's sometimes worth asking. Many tend to maintain networks with equally
good doctors. Otherwise, it's pure trial and error.

Yes. Hypertension, heartburn etc, went away almost immediately.


I wish I could check hypertension. The white coat syndrom is back full
blown, and whenever I go near a BP measure devices, my heart beat goes up at
least 20 points This makes getting an accurate BP extremelly hard. Last
time, my BP was actually *lower* after being on the bicycle for 10 minutes,
because it had somehow relaxed me...



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Old August 10th, 2004, 08:41 PM
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"Ignoramus29819" wrote in message
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I do not even know how to look for a good dietitian, like you said,
not an airhead who gives out xeroxed papers.


Well, I mostly found mine from a book I had read on the no-dieting approach.
Several like minded people have created an association which has a site, and
a list of doctors (dietitians, nutritionists, psychologists) that have
signed a charter I found I could agree to. I don't know if the US
distinguishes between dietitians (Master degree) and nutritionist (real
doctor) like we do. Of course, it's French only, so I guess it's not helping
But maybe there are similar associations in the US. I guess diabetic
associations maintain a list of good dietitians. Or even an association of
people with eating disorders. You mostly want to avoid the dietitians who
only deal with high revenue 30s who want to fit in their bikini for the
summer... Or you can try to find like-minded people in your area who already
know a good one. People on usenet in your area might have had good
experiences, you could always check alt.support.diabete.
If you do happen to know a really good doctor, even in an unrelated field,
it's sometimes worth asking. Many tend to maintain networks with equally
good doctors. Otherwise, it's pure trial and error.

Yes. Hypertension, heartburn etc, went away almost immediately.


I wish I could check hypertension. The white coat syndrom is back full
blown, and whenever I go near a BP measure devices, my heart beat goes up at
least 20 points This makes getting an accurate BP extremelly hard. Last
time, my BP was actually *lower* after being on the bicycle for 10 minutes,
because it had somehow relaxed me...



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Old August 10th, 2004, 10:06 PM
Lictor
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"Ignoramus29819" wrote in message
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Here in the US, we have blood pressure measuring devices tat can be
used free in any drugstore. We have one conveniently located in the
building where I work.


So do we. They're actually worse than a doctor. They try to give out a lots
of feedback to show that the device is working, and that very feedback is
making things even worse for me. Besides, unlike a real doctor, they are
very slow at getting my proper BP (probably because it's jumping all over
the scale), so I can feel the thing pumping up and down and blindly trying
to catch my pulse. Last time I tried one, by the end of the exam, I was
sweating so hard I was dripping to the floor. I felt completely drained and
exhausted from the exam. I probably got a whole workout from it.


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Old August 10th, 2004, 10:06 PM
Lictor
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"Ignoramus29819" wrote in message
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Here in the US, we have blood pressure measuring devices tat can be
used free in any drugstore. We have one conveniently located in the
building where I work.


So do we. They're actually worse than a doctor. They try to give out a lots
of feedback to show that the device is working, and that very feedback is
making things even worse for me. Besides, unlike a real doctor, they are
very slow at getting my proper BP (probably because it's jumping all over
the scale), so I can feel the thing pumping up and down and blindly trying
to catch my pulse. Last time I tried one, by the end of the exam, I was
sweating so hard I was dripping to the floor. I felt completely drained and
exhausted from the exam. I probably got a whole workout from it.


 




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