Atkins-style diets can be life-threatening, doctors warn

"Ignoramus31542" wrote in message
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Alt.support.diabetes readers can enjoy a reference to "ketoacidosis".

I wondered when (note, not if) you'd mention this. I bet you've been having
the twitches in readiness for posting it too, but unfortunately (for you)
the article ****ed up. It should've read "ketosis", but you knew that
anyway.


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Beav
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Ignoramus31542 wrote:
Beav wrote:

Alt.support.diabetes readers can enjoy a reference to "ketoacidosis".

It should've read "ketosis", but you knew that anyway.

Um, I may be wrong, but I think that the patient did have
ketoacidosis,

Having the article say it and having the patient actually being in
ketoacidosis are two different things. There are lies in the text
of the article so the entire thing could be made up. Also who's
to say the patient had ketoacidosis rather than perhaps
lactoacidosis.

and what made me mentally note it is that it is not the
same as ketosis that happens on low carb.

Which was the first red flag. Probably someone who should
never have attempted low carb in the first place. Certainly
someone who never read the book and didn't have the
faintest notion of the right way to do it.

Even if this is true, how often to they publish an article about a
patient dying during or after a gastric bypass. Why? Because obesity
surgery is making a bunch of doctors a bunch of $$$. Heaven forbid we
should find a diet that actually works, that we can do on our own (as
opposed to Medifast or boxed diets like Jenny Craig). One should still
have a doctor's supervision, but if your doctor is dead set against
low-carb, I say GET A NEW DOCTOR.

Ignoramus31542 wrote:


I would like to read tha Lancet article, it could be that journalists'
interpretation of it makes it sound dumber than it really was. The way
the news articles make it sound makes me wonder how it could be
admitted for publication. Maybe the Lancet article was about something
else entirely -- such things are known to happen.

No, the Lancet article was a case history of one patient who developed
ketoacidosis while eating some bizarrely and calling it "Atkins."

By the same logic there should be a ton of articles about how "Atkins
diet causes pregnancy" and "Atkins diet burns down home".


--Jenny

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info

http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood
Sugar Under Control

This was also my thought, I'm wondering why The Lancet doesn't write
articles about people who die while on heart meds or when wearing red
slippers or...?

--
Sherry


Omigod! My mother has red slippers!!!!

"Jenny" wrote in message
...
No, the Lancet article was a case history of one patient who developed
ketoacidosis while eating some bizarrely and calling it "Atkins."

By the same logic there should be a ton of articles about how "Atkins
diet causes pregnancy" and "Atkins diet burns down home".

This was also my thought, I'm wondering why The Lancet doesn't write
articles about people who die while on heart meds or when wearing red
slippers or...?

--
Sherry
364/290/195 (4/3/05)
http://lowcarb.owly.net

Ignoramus31542 wrote:
I would like to read tha Lancet article, it could be that journalists'
interpretation of it makes it sound dumber than it really was. The way
the news articles make it sound makes me wonder how it could be
admitted for publication. Maybe the Lancet article was about something
else entirely -- such things are known to happen.

Well, I saw at least one hint in your quote. Anyone who calls
Atkins a high-protein diet is either a liar or has never read
an Atkins book.

--
Wes Groleau

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which
the only specification is that it should run noiselessly.
-- unknown

Ignoramus31542 wrote:

I would like to read tha Lancet article, it could be that journalists'
interpretation of it makes it sound dumber than it really was. The way
the news articles make it sound makes me wonder how it could be
admitted for publication. Maybe the Lancet article was about something
else entirely -- such things are known to happen.

I would like to read it too, at least the summary. The timing of the
news article was what hit me. On the same day two Atkins bashing
articles came out. One lying about a patient being on Atkins, the
other written by the liars at PCRM. To me the timing makes it look
like someone's donation check cleared and they could afford a
media assault. Or maybe they finally managed to snooker The
Lancet into publishing one of their plant stories so they did a media
release when it came out to fire from both barrels.

The PCRM has stooped to lying before to bad-mouth Atkins.

Ignoramus29446 wrote:
Jenny, do you have the article or at least a link to its abstract?


Not at hand. Try searching for "Atkins ketoacidosis Lancet" on Google
Scholar. If it isn't there now it will be by next week.

--Jenny

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info

http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood
Sugar Under Control

Ignoramus31542 wrote:
:: On 20 Mar 2006 13:22:42 -0800, Doug Freyburger
:: wrote:
::: Ignoramus31542 wrote:
:::: Beav wrote:
::::
:::::: Alt.support.diabetes readers can enjoy a reference to
:::::: "ketoacidosis".
::::
::::: It should've read "ketosis", but you knew that anyway.
::::
:::: Um, I may be wrong, but I think that the patient did have
:::: ketoacidosis,
:::
::: Having the article say it and having the patient actually being in
::: ketoacidosis are two different things. There are lies in the text
::: of the article so the entire thing could be made up. Also who's
::: to say the patient had ketoacidosis rather than perhaps
::: lactoacidosis.
::
:: I would like to read the Lancet article. Its reproduction by media
:: sounds a little bit too stupid to be true, so to speak.

Anyone know which issue of the Lancet the article appeared in?

::
:: i