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Old August 9th, 2004, 07:23 PM
Priscilla H Ballou
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Default Obese child abuse.

In alt.support.diet.low-carb Hugh Beyer wrote:

Priscilla! What the hell are you doing over here?


I'm not there, I'm *here* -- in the low-carb newsgroup! See what
crossposting can do to bring people together? ;-)

You know that street in your home town your mother told you never to
cross?


Where I grew up, that was the street I lived on. Our side was OK, but
t'other side was dangerous. Ain't city life grand?

You've crossed it. You've wandered into a neighborhood of iron-
slinging, gun-toting, dog-loving, chalk-covered, trash-talking meatheads.
Be very afraid.


Oh yeah, the folks here are violently opposed to everything "fat
acceptance" implies or stands for.


Ah, yes. The truly compassionate stance.

Take care, Hugh!

Priscilla
  #32  
Old August 9th, 2004, 07:23 PM
Priscilla H Ballou
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In alt.support.diet.low-carb Hugh Beyer wrote:

Priscilla! What the hell are you doing over here?


I'm not there, I'm *here* -- in the low-carb newsgroup! See what
crossposting can do to bring people together? ;-)

You know that street in your home town your mother told you never to
cross?


Where I grew up, that was the street I lived on. Our side was OK, but
t'other side was dangerous. Ain't city life grand?

You've crossed it. You've wandered into a neighborhood of iron-
slinging, gun-toting, dog-loving, chalk-covered, trash-talking meatheads.
Be very afraid.


Oh yeah, the folks here are violently opposed to everything "fat
acceptance" implies or stands for.


Ah, yes. The truly compassionate stance.

Take care, Hugh!

Priscilla
  #33  
Old August 10th, 2004, 01:52 AM
Ralph DuBose
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Default Obese child abuse.

"Ernie Sty" wrote in message ...
"The Voice of Reason" wrote in message
om...
Priscilla Ballou wrote in message

...


When a mother is ABUSING her child by brainwashing her into eating
habits


That is mere speculation on your part.


I would say that it is extremely good speculation on his part
considering that the mom was openly encouraging the kid, who was
already obese, to eat lots of crap food.



that will cause her ill-health and an early death, then it
becomes everyone else's business.


That is simply an opinion.


One shared by the AMA, the NIH, and the Medicare authorities. Tell
us your opinion.



And if you can't see that causing
obesity in children is an EVIL


The word "evil" is usually used as an excuse to deny someone their rights.
If I label you or your actions "evil", I have not only the right but the
responsibility, as an agent of good, to stop you by whatever means
necessary, and that almost always means violating your rights. The thing
is, real evil is extermely rare. What is often labeled "evil" are people
whose actions, or those actions themselves, that are seen as being contrary
to your beliefs.


Sure. We have no doubt that all that your belief system sees nothing
wrong with ending up with a body, fairly quickly, that is incapable of
doing 90% of the things that humans have done thru the millenia. You
are an adult, it is your choice. But the child is innocent and is
helpless and cannot defend him/herself from being trapped in a dead
end doom-ride to early incapacity.



act then YOU are the one who isn't
competent.


Another opinion.


Obesity causes diabetes, no-one is denying that other than Fat
Acceptors.


Obesity causes diabetes in some people, this is true. It also causes heart
disease, osteoporosis, and other nasty diseases--in some people. Bear in
mind that it does not cause these diseases in everyone.


Bear in mind that obesity pushes everyone in the direction of
clinically apparent diabetes/hypertension, etc. Not everyones body
falters under the physiological abuse caused by lots of extra fat such
that a formal diagnosis becomes unavoidable.



You might want to consider the fact that rage is rarely helpful. If you
want to feel better and be healthier, I would suggest you direct your anger
at seeing a fat woman with a fat daughter to raising awareness about eating
disorders and the dangers of passing them on to one's children instead of
into rage/posting on the internet.


A stone typical response of fat acceptors to nearly any question is
to grasp for the victim role (you must face the "rage" of a poster who
merely disagrees with you) and to invoke the spector of
anorexia/eating disorders.
Nationwide, obesity/childhood obesity is a massive problem,
dwarfing the problem of anorexia. But you guys routinely wave the
possibility of anorexia around like some kind of totem. No one else
here ever brings it up. It is a smokescreen, that is all. Or worse.
Maybe you guys will say - while criminally overfeeding helpless
children into an early food addiction-, "See how I am saving them from
anorexia!! What a good mom I am!!""
  #34  
Old August 10th, 2004, 01:52 AM
Ralph DuBose
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Default Obese child abuse.

"Ernie Sty" wrote in message ...
"The Voice of Reason" wrote in message
om...
Priscilla Ballou wrote in message

...


When a mother is ABUSING her child by brainwashing her into eating
habits


That is mere speculation on your part.


I would say that it is extremely good speculation on his part
considering that the mom was openly encouraging the kid, who was
already obese, to eat lots of crap food.



that will cause her ill-health and an early death, then it
becomes everyone else's business.


That is simply an opinion.


One shared by the AMA, the NIH, and the Medicare authorities. Tell
us your opinion.



And if you can't see that causing
obesity in children is an EVIL


The word "evil" is usually used as an excuse to deny someone their rights.
If I label you or your actions "evil", I have not only the right but the
responsibility, as an agent of good, to stop you by whatever means
necessary, and that almost always means violating your rights. The thing
is, real evil is extermely rare. What is often labeled "evil" are people
whose actions, or those actions themselves, that are seen as being contrary
to your beliefs.


Sure. We have no doubt that all that your belief system sees nothing
wrong with ending up with a body, fairly quickly, that is incapable of
doing 90% of the things that humans have done thru the millenia. You
are an adult, it is your choice. But the child is innocent and is
helpless and cannot defend him/herself from being trapped in a dead
end doom-ride to early incapacity.



act then YOU are the one who isn't
competent.


Another opinion.


Obesity causes diabetes, no-one is denying that other than Fat
Acceptors.


Obesity causes diabetes in some people, this is true. It also causes heart
disease, osteoporosis, and other nasty diseases--in some people. Bear in
mind that it does not cause these diseases in everyone.


Bear in mind that obesity pushes everyone in the direction of
clinically apparent diabetes/hypertension, etc. Not everyones body
falters under the physiological abuse caused by lots of extra fat such
that a formal diagnosis becomes unavoidable.



You might want to consider the fact that rage is rarely helpful. If you
want to feel better and be healthier, I would suggest you direct your anger
at seeing a fat woman with a fat daughter to raising awareness about eating
disorders and the dangers of passing them on to one's children instead of
into rage/posting on the internet.


A stone typical response of fat acceptors to nearly any question is
to grasp for the victim role (you must face the "rage" of a poster who
merely disagrees with you) and to invoke the spector of
anorexia/eating disorders.
Nationwide, obesity/childhood obesity is a massive problem,
dwarfing the problem of anorexia. But you guys routinely wave the
possibility of anorexia around like some kind of totem. No one else
here ever brings it up. It is a smokescreen, that is all. Or worse.
Maybe you guys will say - while criminally overfeeding helpless
children into an early food addiction-, "See how I am saving them from
anorexia!! What a good mom I am!!""
  #35  
Old August 10th, 2004, 01:52 AM
Ralph DuBose
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"Ernie Sty" wrote in message ...
"The Voice of Reason" wrote in message
om...
Priscilla Ballou wrote in message

...


When a mother is ABUSING her child by brainwashing her into eating
habits


That is mere speculation on your part.


I would say that it is extremely good speculation on his part
considering that the mom was openly encouraging the kid, who was
already obese, to eat lots of crap food.



that will cause her ill-health and an early death, then it
becomes everyone else's business.


That is simply an opinion.


One shared by the AMA, the NIH, and the Medicare authorities. Tell
us your opinion.



And if you can't see that causing
obesity in children is an EVIL


The word "evil" is usually used as an excuse to deny someone their rights.
If I label you or your actions "evil", I have not only the right but the
responsibility, as an agent of good, to stop you by whatever means
necessary, and that almost always means violating your rights. The thing
is, real evil is extermely rare. What is often labeled "evil" are people
whose actions, or those actions themselves, that are seen as being contrary
to your beliefs.


Sure. We have no doubt that all that your belief system sees nothing
wrong with ending up with a body, fairly quickly, that is incapable of
doing 90% of the things that humans have done thru the millenia. You
are an adult, it is your choice. But the child is innocent and is
helpless and cannot defend him/herself from being trapped in a dead
end doom-ride to early incapacity.



act then YOU are the one who isn't
competent.


Another opinion.


Obesity causes diabetes, no-one is denying that other than Fat
Acceptors.


Obesity causes diabetes in some people, this is true. It also causes heart
disease, osteoporosis, and other nasty diseases--in some people. Bear in
mind that it does not cause these diseases in everyone.


Bear in mind that obesity pushes everyone in the direction of
clinically apparent diabetes/hypertension, etc. Not everyones body
falters under the physiological abuse caused by lots of extra fat such
that a formal diagnosis becomes unavoidable.



You might want to consider the fact that rage is rarely helpful. If you
want to feel better and be healthier, I would suggest you direct your anger
at seeing a fat woman with a fat daughter to raising awareness about eating
disorders and the dangers of passing them on to one's children instead of
into rage/posting on the internet.


A stone typical response of fat acceptors to nearly any question is
to grasp for the victim role (you must face the "rage" of a poster who
merely disagrees with you) and to invoke the spector of
anorexia/eating disorders.
Nationwide, obesity/childhood obesity is a massive problem,
dwarfing the problem of anorexia. But you guys routinely wave the
possibility of anorexia around like some kind of totem. No one else
here ever brings it up. It is a smokescreen, that is all. Or worse.
Maybe you guys will say - while criminally overfeeding helpless
children into an early food addiction-, "See how I am saving them from
anorexia!! What a good mom I am!!""
  #36  
Old August 10th, 2004, 03:21 AM
Steve Knight
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Default Obese child abuse.



Not to mention, "I'm so stupid I think that eating sugar causes
diabetes!"


I bet it is a big cause of it. or started it anyway. the first case of it in
china was in a western household where the white owner loved his sweets.
all of the refined carbs and sugars have screwed us up.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.
  #37  
Old August 10th, 2004, 03:21 AM
Steve Knight
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Default Obese child abuse.



Not to mention, "I'm so stupid I think that eating sugar causes
diabetes!"


I bet it is a big cause of it. or started it anyway. the first case of it in
china was in a western household where the white owner loved his sweets.
all of the refined carbs and sugars have screwed us up.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.
  #38  
Old August 10th, 2004, 03:21 AM
Steve Knight
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Not to mention, "I'm so stupid I think that eating sugar causes
diabetes!"


I bet it is a big cause of it. or started it anyway. the first case of it in
china was in a western household where the white owner loved his sweets.
all of the refined carbs and sugars have screwed us up.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.
  #39  
Old August 10th, 2004, 06:55 AM
marengo
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Default Obese child abuse.

Richard Bray wrote:
| On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 04:14:53 GMT, Priscilla Ballou

| Sorry. I left out 'willfully ignorant, slothful and self-deluding'.
| But with you as an advocate, what does it matter? I am sure you can
| make the weather balloons feel better about themselves.


Does your mommy know you're using her computer? Isn't it past your bedtime?
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Peter
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  #40  
Old August 10th, 2004, 06:55 AM
marengo
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Richard Bray wrote:
| On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 04:14:53 GMT, Priscilla Ballou

| Sorry. I left out 'willfully ignorant, slothful and self-deluding'.
| But with you as an advocate, what does it matter? I am sure you can
| make the weather balloons feel better about themselves.


Does your mommy know you're using her computer? Isn't it past your bedtime?
--
Peter
270/215/180
Before/Current Pix:
http://users.thelink.net/marengo/wei...htlosspix.html


 




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