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Old May 8th, 2007, 08:40 AM posted to alt.support.diet
Lisa[_2_]
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I'm Lisa. I'm trying (and trying and failing and trying again and
failing again, and trying some more) to lose weight. I'm not posting
this to elicit sympathy or supportive responses, I'm just tired of
trying to do this thing alone. So I thought I'd hang out here a while.
See you around.
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Old May 8th, 2007, 08:50 AM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Tue, 08 May 2007 09:40:23 +0200, Lisa wrote:

I'm Lisa. I'm trying (and trying and failing and trying again and
failing again, and trying some more) to lose weight. I'm not posting
this to elicit sympathy or supportive responses, I'm just tired of
trying to do this thing alone. So I thought I'd hang out here a while.
See you around.


It's taken me 58 years to get the degree of success I'm currently at.
It's a struggle, but if you really want to lose weight, and really
work hard at it, you can do it. Unfortunately, results sometimes come
so slowly that one gets discouraged before they see much success. It's
something you've got to work at every single day. I know this doesn't
sound that good, but if you are persistent, it can work.

--
Zilbandy
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Old May 8th, 2007, 04:17 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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What I found I needed was structure. I need public weigh ins etc. I
try totally on my own, I get discouraged, throw in the towel. When I'm
on a program that is structured and involves other people (whether
meetings, a clinic, a group), I am much more likely to stick to it.

M

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Old May 9th, 2007, 07:59 AM posted to alt.support.diet
Lisa[_2_]
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Zilbandy wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2007 09:40:23 +0200, Lisa wrote:

I'm Lisa. I'm trying (and trying and failing and trying again and
failing again, and trying some more) to lose weight. I'm not posting
this to elicit sympathy or supportive responses, I'm just tired of
trying to do this thing alone. So I thought I'd hang out here a while.
See you around.


It's taken me 58 years to get the degree of success I'm currently at.



58 years?! Whoa... Not meaning to be flippant, but I don't have another
58 years. I'm almost 40 now. It's gotta be today.


It's a struggle, but if you really want to lose weight, and really
work hard at it, you can do it. Unfortunately, results sometimes come
so slowly that one gets discouraged before they see much success.



I don't want my success to be dependent on how much weight I lose from
day to day. I want it to be dependent on whether or not I wake up alive
each morning. My weight gain has gotten to the point of dangerous and
if I don't do something about it now I'm not going to be here in five
years. It's that serious and I'm scared. And I hate that I'm scared,
hate feeling this way but I can't put it off anymore. I'm at the point
where there's nowhere to run. Not a comfortable place to be.


It's
something you've got to work at every single day.



You've got that right. Seriously, I wonder sometimes how thin people do
it. But then drug addicts and alcoholics probably feel the same way
about people who have no trouble remaining sober. I guess everyone has
their burden to bear.


I know this doesn't
sound that good, but if you are persistent, it can work.



I sure hope so.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 08:39 AM posted to alt.support.diet
Zilbandy
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On Wed, 09 May 2007 08:59:29 +0200, Lisa wrote:

I don't want my success to be dependent on how much weight I lose from
day to day. I want it to be dependent on whether or not I wake up alive
each morning. My weight gain has gotten to the point of dangerous and
if I don't do something about it now I'm not going to be here in five
years. It's that serious and I'm scared. And I hate that I'm scared,
hate feeling this way but I can't put it off anymore. I'm at the point
where there's nowhere to run. Not a comfortable place to be.


Believe me, I know it's not a comfy place to be. I started my last,
and so far, successful, weight loss program starting at a portly 602
pounds! I'm current in the 450's and still losing. I've still got a
couple hundred pounds to go, but this is the longest (9 months) that I
have ever been successful on a diet.

If you do a crash diet to shed immediate weight, you're probably not
doing your body any good. Slow and steady will do you more good, plus
you don't have to go on such a drastic diet. Drastic diets are almost
always a formula for disaster and the weight comes back... and brings
extra friends with it.

A few pounds a week is the best way, in my humble opinion.

--
Zilbandy (602 455 250)
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Old May 9th, 2007, 12:02 PM posted to alt.support.diet
teachrmama
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"Lisa" wrote in message ...
Zilbandy wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2007 09:40:23 +0200, Lisa wrote:

I'm Lisa. I'm trying (and trying and failing and trying again and
failing again, and trying some more) to lose weight. I'm not posting
this to elicit sympathy or supportive responses, I'm just tired of
trying to do this thing alone. So I thought I'd hang out here a while.
See you around.


It's taken me 58 years to get the degree of success I'm currently at.



58 years?! Whoa... Not meaning to be flippant, but I don't have another
58 years. I'm almost 40 now. It's gotta be today.


It's a struggle, but if you really want to lose weight, and really
work hard at it, you can do it. Unfortunately, results sometimes come
so slowly that one gets discouraged before they see much success.



I don't want my success to be dependent on how much weight I lose from
day to day. I want it to be dependent on whether or not I wake up alive
each morning. My weight gain has gotten to the point of dangerous and
if I don't do something about it now I'm not going to be here in five
years. It's that serious and I'm scared. And I hate that I'm scared,
hate feeling this way but I can't put it off anymore. I'm at the point
where there's nowhere to run. Not a comfortable place to be.


It sounds like you are exactly where I was a year ago. That's when I found
out my blood pressure was at stroke level, and the doctor told me that, if I
didn't get it under control I would not live to see my children grow up.
THAT scared me enough to do something about my weight. I've lost 90+
pounds, and am near my goal now. Looking back, I have to say that fear was
a great motivator at first, but, eventually, I had to make some tough
decisions about my eating and exercise. Do I really want to stay at my
new, healthier weight badly enough to resist the behaviors that got me to
almost 250 pounds? Or am I going to let myself slide "just for today"? I
certainly wish you all the best in your journey, Lisa. I'm glad you've
decided to hang around here for a while.




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Old May 9th, 2007, 07:22 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Lisa[_2_]
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Zilbandy wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2007 08:59:29 +0200, Lisa wrote:

I don't want my success to be dependent on how much weight I lose from
day to day. I want it to be dependent on whether or not I wake up alive
each morning. My weight gain has gotten to the point of dangerous and
if I don't do something about it now I'm not going to be here in five
years. It's that serious and I'm scared. And I hate that I'm scared,
hate feeling this way but I can't put it off anymore. I'm at the point
where there's nowhere to run. Not a comfortable place to be.


Believe me, I know it's not a comfy place to be. I started my last,
and so far, successful, weight loss program starting at a portly 602
pounds! I'm current in the 450's and still losing. I've still got a
couple hundred pounds to go, but this is the longest (9 months) that I
have ever been successful on a diet.

If you do a crash diet to shed immediate weight, you're probably not
doing your body any good. Slow and steady will do you more good, plus
you don't have to go on such a drastic diet. Drastic diets are almost
always a formula for disaster and the weight comes back... and brings
extra friends with it.

A few pounds a week is the best way, in my humble opinion.



Congratulations on your loss, that's wonderful! Boy have I needed to
talk to you, you've no idea. Thanks so much for replying. I've lurked
here a few times and read people who needed to lose fifty pounds or so,
or those of seemingly small stature in whom a loss of twenty or thirty
pounds was a big deal. Currently I need to lose two hundred and it's
not a battle anymore, it's war.

May I ask, how do you approach exercise? I bought a yoga tape designed
specifically for heavy people and it's a challenge. The thought of
doing it more than a couple times a week depresses me because it's so
overwhelming. Then there's walking, which totally wears me out, and
afterward I don't want to do anything but sleep for three hours. (I'm
ashamed to be telling all this on myself but what can you do. When a
person needs help, they need help, and it isn't happening if I'm not
asking.) There's swimming but it takes a week to get over the laughter,
constant staring and half-whispered jibes I get from showing up at a
public pool. (I happen to think my bathing suit is very appropriate and
cute, by the way. I think it's me that's causing the problem.)

So exercise is also a big challenge. Truthfully I begin to think maybe
I'm taking on too much. I've been sedentary for so long, maybe it'd be
better to begin with exercise I can do while sitting down, or using the
back of a chair for support. Any thoughts?

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Old May 9th, 2007, 07:34 PM posted to alt.support.diet
Lisa[_2_]
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teachrmama wrote:
"Lisa" wrote in message ...
Zilbandy wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2007 09:40:23 +0200, Lisa wrote:

I'm Lisa. I'm trying (and trying and failing and trying again and
failing again, and trying some more) to lose weight. I'm not posting
this to elicit sympathy or supportive responses, I'm just tired of
trying to do this thing alone. So I thought I'd hang out here a while.
See you around.
It's taken me 58 years to get the degree of success I'm currently at.


58 years?! Whoa... Not meaning to be flippant, but I don't have another
58 years. I'm almost 40 now. It's gotta be today.


It's a struggle, but if you really want to lose weight, and really
work hard at it, you can do it. Unfortunately, results sometimes come
so slowly that one gets discouraged before they see much success.


I don't want my success to be dependent on how much weight I lose from
day to day. I want it to be dependent on whether or not I wake up alive
each morning. My weight gain has gotten to the point of dangerous and
if I don't do something about it now I'm not going to be here in five
years. It's that serious and I'm scared. And I hate that I'm scared,
hate feeling this way but I can't put it off anymore. I'm at the point
where there's nowhere to run. Not a comfortable place to be.


It sounds like you are exactly where I was a year ago. That's when I found
out my blood pressure was at stroke level, and the doctor told me that, if I
didn't get it under control I would not live to see my children grow up.
THAT scared me enough to do something about my weight. I've lost 90+
pounds, and am near my goal now. Looking back, I have to say that fear was
a great motivator at first, but, eventually, I had to make some tough
decisions about my eating and exercise. Do I really want to stay at my
new, healthier weight badly enough to resist the behaviors that got me to
almost 250 pounds? Or am I going to let myself slide "just for today"? I
certainly wish you all the best in your journey, Lisa. I'm glad you've
decided to hang around here for a while.



Hi teachrmama. Those "just for today" slides are the worst and
currently they've landed me in a bad spot. At the beginning of the year
I lost 40+ lbs, felt a little better and it was a huge ego boost. Then
my health went bad and the fear and stress that put on me resulted in my
falling back on old habits to try and cope, which was eating to relieve
stress. That's the biggie for me. I've been doing that since I was a
child.

I gained back approximately half of what I lost and now I'm locked in
this struggle with two sides of myself - the good me and the weak me.
The good me lasts until the afternoon and keeps my intake down and
sensible. When the afternoon and a little fatigue roll around the weak
me starts screaming and eats too much. The weak me also doesn't want to
exercise at all, but I can pretty well gag her on that if I have to.

I swear, I've never served in the armed forces but I can imagine what it
feels like to be on the front line. I feel like I'm there every single
day. I tell myself I'm going to go out and do this thing, that the time
is now and give myself these wonderful speeches and self-support, but in
the afternoon (for the last week at least) it always ends in some
measure of failure. I thought I would be doing this thing day by day,
but now it seems I'm going to be fighting these bad habits minute by minute.
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Old May 10th, 2007, 01:40 AM posted to alt.support.diet
lissa
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On May 9, 3:02 am, Lisa wrote:
wrote:
What I found I needed was structure. I need public weigh ins etc. I
try totally on my own, I get discouraged, throw in the towel. When I'm
on a program that is structured and involves other people (whether
meetings, a clinic, a group), I am much more likely to stick to it.


I've discovered I need that too. Structure and some sense of
accountability. My family pretty much accepts me for what I am. They
don't like the fact that I'm overweight for health reasons but they
don't criticize.


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Lisa- the one thing you aren't is alone in your struggle- that's for
darn sure. And you aren't alone in re-dieting either. 5 years ago I
struggled down to what felt like my ideal weight- one baby and 5 years
later I am heavier than ever. I am sitting at about one hundred to
lose. But we got to scrape, and rip through the guilt and the shame
and realize, it sucks, but we have to do it all over again. Maybe
next time we can keep it off.
You are not alone- don't ever feel alone or hopeless. Where there is
life, there is hope.
lissa

 




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