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You want PROOF - Here's Quackery Proof.
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:18:23 -0700, Saffire
wrote: Yeah right.... Especially the part about his clogged arteries and heart problems. That definately supports his diet (if you're suicidal). Atkins had cardiomyopathy caused by a virus. His ARTERIES, OTOH were relatively clear. In any case, it had NOTHING to do with his death. He was 195 lbs when he was admitted to the hospital after sustaining a massive HEAD WOUND after slipping on the ice. He bloated up to 258 lbs DURING his stay in the hospital as his major organs started to shut down. Let's try an experiment: you have someone shove you REALLY hard (that should be EASY to persuade someone to do) so that you fall and hit YOUR head on the sidewalk and sustain a MASSIVE head wound. If, while in a coma, your body freakishly swells up with excess fluid before you die a week or so later due to massive organ failure, we were right; if not, we'll all agree that YOU were right. It's a win-win situation. So, go ahead and put your money where your mouth is -- PROVE us wrong by EXAMPLE. Too BAD atkins' FAMILY wouldn't ALLOW an AUTOPSY. What were they AFRAID of? If an AUTOPSY had shown no HEART problems, or ARTERIAL damage, it would have gone a LONG WAY in PROVING atkins wasn't a QUACK! TOO BAD the family was so CHICKEN**** they wouldn't ALLOW, an AUTOPSY, which could have let out that 60 POUNDS of FLUID atkins allegedly retained in TEN DAYS (yeah right). They were AFRAID that if the CASH COW, showed any DAMAGE, they wouldn't have the INCOME FLOW, from FOOLS like YOU! Your Pal, Sleepy ____________________________________ The True Axis of Evil Bush - Cheney - Ashcroft - Rumsfeld ____________________________________ |
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Sleepyman wrote:
| On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 04:00:09 GMT, "Chrono-Z" wrote: | || I agree, but what if someone who wasn't a newsgroup regular and was || just looking here thinking of doing low-carb sees someone telling || someone else to do it or die. That's all, no need to turn it into || something else. || | Most of the people here are cultists. Logic is meaningless to them. | There is only one way, "their" way, and no other thought is allowed. | So if you don't do it their way you are a troll. Good v Evil rules | here. | | Sleepy | | ____________________________________ | The True Axis of Evil | Bush - Cheney - Ashcroft - Rumsfeld | ____________________________________ You have it bass-ackwards. It was the moron troll who came into the low-carb newsgroup and said that we were all stupid and hopeless because we do a low-carb way of eating. I, nor anyone selse, went into HIS support group and said these things. Why in the name of hell do these idiots hang around alt.support.low-carb if they (a) are against low-carbing, and (b) are here to tear down, not support, and (c) have absolutely nothing constructive to contribute? While I've killfiled Chrono and Normal, it's unfortunate that thei negative, condemnatory posts keep being copied and repeated by others. I personally don't give a rats ass what some stranger eats. But if they come into our support group to disrupt and preach hatred, then it becomes personal and the trolls are fair game. -- Peter 270/224/180 website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo |
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I posted something negative? I would love to see what it is. Could someone
please enligthen me? "marengo" wrote in message s.com... Sleepyman wrote: | On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 04:00:09 GMT, "Chrono-Z" wrote: | || I agree, but what if someone who wasn't a newsgroup regular and was || just looking here thinking of doing low-carb sees someone telling || someone else to do it or die. That's all, no need to turn it into || something else. || | Most of the people here are cultists. Logic is meaningless to them. | There is only one way, "their" way, and no other thought is allowed. | So if you don't do it their way you are a troll. Good v Evil rules | here. | | Sleepy | | ____________________________________ | The True Axis of Evil | Bush - Cheney - Ashcroft - Rumsfeld | ____________________________________ You have it bass-ackwards. It was the moron troll who came into the low-carb newsgroup and said that we were all stupid and hopeless because we do a low-carb way of eating. I, nor anyone selse, went into HIS support group and said these things. Why in the name of hell do these idiots hang around alt.support.low-carb if they (a) are against low-carbing, and (b) are here to tear down, not support, and (c) have absolutely nothing constructive to contribute? While I've killfiled Chrono and Normal, it's unfortunate that thei negative, condemnatory posts keep being copied and repeated by others. I personally don't give a rats ass what some stranger eats. But if they come into our support group to disrupt and preach hatred, then it becomes personal and the trolls are fair game. -- Peter 270/224/180 website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 00:15:01 GMT, "marengo"
wrote: Why in the name of hell do these idiots hang around alt.support.low-carb if they (a) are against low-carbing, and (b) are here to tear down, not support, and (c) have absolutely nothing constructive to contribute? It starts with boredom, then add in an axe to grind. Stir in the illusion of being annonymous, and you get trolls. The general idea is to stir up the hornet's nest to see what happens. My guess is that it's a moron from the fat acceptance newsgroup who found us through some other trolling idiot's crosspost. Unfortunately, here, the hornets are smarter and faster than he expected. The first appearence of our main troll (whom you have nicknamed "Normal" though he's proven himself to be anything but..) posting through extra.newsguy.com, seems to have made his first post in late March under "luvmycarbs" or something like that. Starting with the post "Atkins is a quack" then moving on to the ever so astute observation, "Atkins is Dead." Morphed a few times did stupid stuff, acted like a militant vegan/PETA moron, morphed again, and is now posting screaming, angry posts that Atkins destroyed his marriage, that we are cultists, and/or brainwashed. Before that he was claiming that the late Dr. Atkins was in the pocket of the cattle industry, and/or that his children are making tons of money off of his name. He seems to be a glutton for punishment, he keeps getting soundly trounced with facts, and he keeps coming back for more. (Not unlike daring hornets to sting you, again, and again, and again, and then having the nerve to be surprised when they do.) Now he's calling us trolls in our own newsgroup. Doesn't understand (or pretends not to) the basic rules of netiquette, doesn't understand (or pretends not to) what "troll" means in usenet, and generally acting like an ass. Your killfile may get pretty full of his sockpuppets before he crawls back under a rock. Sooner, or later this too, shall pass. While I've killfiled Chrono and Normal, it's unfortunate that thei negative, condemnatory posts keep being copied and repeated by others. Well, that's usenet for you. Nothing says that you have to keep reading the thread once you figure out who started it. I personally don't give a rats ass what some stranger eats. But if they come into our support group to disrupt and preach hatred, then it becomes personal and the trolls are fair game. Neatly summed up, it's funny how the trolls never seem to see it that way. You might want to add Sleepyman to your list. Seems to be pretty anti low carb (doen't post much. Why he's here, who knows?), but less overtly obnoxious than our new resident loon. Loony boy (aka Normal) almost makes me miss the Mu/Chung vs. Bob wars. Karen Rodgers ********** Windbourne, folk singers of the future http://www.windbourne.com/ remove "_rice_" from my email address ********** |
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burbled across the ether:
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:58:18 -0500, "revek" wrote: Chrono-Z burbled across the ether: Promoting low-carb and supporting others doing low-carb doesnt translate into vicious bashing of anything else not low-carb. It's a maturity issue. Bashing things out of ignorance does nothing for your cause. Cause? This group's "cause" is to support those who want to lowcarb. The bashers come here to harrass lowcarbers, lowcarbers don't go out to other groups to bash anybody. I say the bashers who come here get what they give (and deserve). It's not like they're going to actually *listen* to anybody here. These are trolls after all. Now if you want to have a real discussion amongst sensible people (non-trolls) then you'd find Peter quite sensible on the subject although enthusiastic about his personal epiphany. But this is not that kind of thread. So, in other words, anyone who is on another diet, or only partially does low-carb, and does not follow the Atkins cult to perfection is unwelcome. Didn't say that, stupid. -- revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please "I think...I think it's in my basement. Let me go upstairs and check" -- Escher. |
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Karen Rodgers burbled across the ether:
You might want to add Sleepyman to your list. Seems to be pretty anti low carb (doen't post much. Anti-Atkins and Bernstien actually. He claims to be lowcarbing himself. Why he's here, who knows?), We polluted his beloved diabetes group with crossposts. So he's going to make us "pay" by hanging out here deliberately annoying us with his low opinions on Atkins and Bernstien, and anybody who doesn't kiss his ass. but less overtly obnoxious than our new resident loon. Loony boy (aka Normal) almost makes me miss the Mu/Chung vs. Bob wars. Bite your tongue! -- revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please We all love to poke fun at politicians, but we must never forget to be thankful that we don't get as much government as we pay for! |
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FOB burbled across the ether:
And nobody ever has gallbladder problems unless they go on Atkins? Unless you have more information than you are relating I don't see any proof of cause and effect here. My sister had her gallbladder out last year. She's never 'dieted' at all. -- revek www.geocities.com/tanirevek/LowCarb.html lowcarbing since June 2002 5'2" 41 F 165+/too much/size seven petite please A day without sun shine is like, you know, night. |
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