Anyone take B12 supplements?

My cousin is a diabetic and gets low on energy
but has to be very careful of her diet
there is a new energy drink that has no
sugar and is approved by mayo clinic
for diabetics because of zero sugar to
drink and is loaded with B12
XS energy drink

She says, "the XS energy drink has made
me feel soooo much better and it doesn't
give me a stomach ache like other drinks
that I've tried"
-Shelly Ny, NY

search for XS energy drink
http://health.jonesima.com

"PhotoGlobe2009" wrote in message
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She says, "the XS energy drink has made
me feel soooo much better and it doesn't
give me a stomach ache like other drinks
that I've tried"
-Shelly Ny, NY


I don't believe your cousin, or you. How does that liquid Spam drink taste
to you?

Cheri

B12 has nothing to do with low energy! LOL

"Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom wrote in message
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"PhotoGlobe2009" wrote in message
news:f3123a03-e0fc-4cdb-96de-

She says, "the XS energy drink has made
me feel soooo much better and it doesn't
give me a stomach ache like other drinks
that I've tried"
-Shelly Ny, NY


I don't believe your cousin, or you. How does that liquid Spam drink taste
to you?

Cheri

"DB" wrote:

B12 has nothing to do with low energy!

When the elderly complain about low energy one
treatment is a B12 injection, so yes it does have
something to do with low energy.

The problems with B12 seem to be lack of it in a
vegan diet (easily handled by eating meat - vegan
is as extreme as meat-only) and absorbtion
getting worse as folks age (easily handled by
injection but under the tongue tablets seem to
get good enough absorbtion).

Every couple of years I get a pack of sublingual
B12 tablets or drops and see it it improves my
energy. If it does that says I had a shortage before
I took the supplement. If it doesn to that says I
did not have a shortage before I took the
supplement. So fat none of the attempts have
given any change so so far I have not yet had a
shortage. Just how good an idea it is to have a
shortage before taking supplements, I'm not sure.
Maybe the B12 in my daily multi is absorbed enough
to head that off at the pass.

wow, this is a really mature group....and it looks like you really
want to
help people who have diabetes....obviously most of you don't have it

why don't you do your research?

here is another example
http://www.b12patch.com/
http://www.healthmad.com/Health/B12-...-Booster.16580

don't bother to reply...I don't care what you think





On Sep 24, 9:55*am, "DB" wrote:
B12 has nothing to do with low energy! LOL

"Cheri" gserviceatinreachdotcom wrote in message

...

"PhotoGlobe2009" wrote in message
news:f3123a03-e0fc-4cdb-96de-

She says, "the XS energy drink has made
me feel soooo much better and it doesn't
give me a stomach ache like other drinks
that I've tried"
-Shelly *Ny, NY

I don't believe your cousin, or you. How does that liquid Spam drink taste
to you?

Cheri

In message
Doug
Freyburger wrote:

"DB" wrote:

B12 has nothing to do with low energy!

When the elderly complain about low energy one
treatment is a B12 injection, so yes it does have
something to do with low energy.

Yes, indeed it does, it's called a placebo. They're surprisingly
effective at making you feel more energetic.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:40:32 -0700 (PDT), in
Doug
Freyburger wrote:

The problems with B12 seem to be lack of it in a
vegan diet (easily handled by eating meat - vegan
is as extreme as meat-only) ...

Vegan is more extreme, not as extreme.

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DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:

The problems with B12 seem to be lack of it in a
vegan diet (easily handled by eating meat - vegan
is as extreme as meat-only) ...

Vegan is more extreme, not as extreme.

Given your extensive posting history on diabetes support
groups and extremely small posting history on low carb
support groups I can see the bias you're coming from.
The stance would even make sense if cross posted to a
diabetes support group but it wasn't.

History says those who go all meat for low carb reasons
crash and burn and disappear. It is thus just as extreme
as vegan. It's a tactic based in ignorance and extremism,
and while there are vegans who do it for long term reasons
I've yet to encounter any non-diabetic who had any long
term plan in mind when doing it.

More importantly people who have no clue whatsoever
about what low carbing actually is claim it's no carb or
all meat. Once again all meat is at least as extreme as
vegan for low carb purposes.

Remember that in low carb there's no medical reason
psuhing the non-diabetics among us towards all meat
and very many reasons pushing us away from it. The
simplist of those reasons is the actual directions as written
in the actual books.

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:55:47 -0700 (PDT), in
Doug
Freyburger wrote:

DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:

The problems with B12 seem to be lack of it in a
vegan diet (easily handled by eating meat - vegan
is as extreme as meat-only) ...

Vegan is more extreme, not as extreme.

Given your extensive posting history on diabetes support
groups and extremely small posting history on low carb
support groups I can see the bias you're coming from.
The stance would even make sense if cross posted to a
diabetes support group but it wasn't.

History says those who go all meat for low carb reasons
crash and burn and disappear. It is thus just as extreme
as vegan.

I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you were saying that vegan was as
extreme as 'meat-only' where it meant simple vegetarianism, aka giving up meat
only. I thought there were implied unstated words since I didn't see, still
don't see why one would throw 'eating meat only' in at that point.

I don't eat a 'meat-only' diet. I don't know anyone who eats a 'meat-only'
diet. Obviously those are the two potential theoretical extremes, I guess. I
also guess I was being naive. But, I do know vegetarians, vegans, low-carbers,
lower-carbers and low-spikers. I don't have a Way Of Eating that is extreme in
any way & I certainly don't advocate one for anyone. Heck, I don't even
approve of 'diets' or like the fact that that word meaning 'what one eats' is
useless now.

For example, recently we had weekend-over company. The last time they were
here, or we were there also, they were vegetarians. We knew that they had
moved on to being vegans, but we hadn't been together & eaten together since
they had, if you see what I mean. I knew already that the chocoholic of the
couple preferred dark chocolates, as do I, and I asked her if she had any
trouble finding dark chocolates that were absolutely dairy-free. She then
proceeded to tell me all weekend long what dark chocolates 'have milk in them'
and which do not, but more emphasis on those that do. I was just making polite
conversation with her, I thought, about a shared passion - dark chocolates but
I came to wish I had never brought it up.

Sorry that I misunderstood what you said.

And, it is true that mostly I lurk here only.

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