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Old August 21st, 2004, 08:01 PM
Doug Freyburger
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Linda wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
Linda wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:


Are you still in ketosis?


No, I'm not in ketosis. I've NEVER been in ketosis ...


Ketosis is the primary tool of Atkins ...
But if you've never registered anything but completely unaltered
biege, that makes it much harder to figure out your CCLL ...


Beige, beige, beige. That's it. How is that possible?


Some folks never register on the sticks. Do you have the other
physical signs like the smell on the breath or the dry mouth?
Those are more accurate and more sensative than the sticks.

When folks register on the sticks, the response is that the
sticks are like a pregnancy test. Either you're positive or
not. When folks register on the sticks that's only part of
the answer. The sticks can fail to register and give false
negatives, but if the sticks change at all they show ketones.
The sticks never give false positive. But the sticks are
supposed to show amounts and it's possible to have amounts
too low for the sticks to register.

Ketosis isn't mandatory to lose stored fat. Low fat folks
do lose stored fat and they aren't in ketosis. Even if you
can use lower carb to keep your blood sugar under control
so you aren't hungry, that's still good enough to lose.

Take a step back. You've spent months clutching on the
obvious and you've stalled because you did that. It is time
to try something else. The obvious has already failed for you,
so you may as well try the non-obvious.


I know it's time to try something different. I've been insanely doing
the same thing that hasn't been working, expecting it to somehow
magically start working. That IS the definition of insanity!


So ready or not it is time to try something else.

Go for the higher carb intake. Cautiously. Five grams this
week, five more in a few weeks, build up across time. Keep
within about the same range to total calories, eating different
food not just more to get the extra five. Start your meals with
the veggies to get to your quota and let the veggies fill you
somewhat. Do that and you'll naturally end up eating less of
the rest of the meals.

Other folks have recommended just cutting calories. I've
recommended swapping some number of other calories for more
carb calories. You could always combine the two sets of
suggestions and do a little of both.
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Old August 21st, 2004, 08:01 PM
Doug Freyburger
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Linda wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
Linda wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:


Are you still in ketosis?


No, I'm not in ketosis. I've NEVER been in ketosis ...


Ketosis is the primary tool of Atkins ...
But if you've never registered anything but completely unaltered
biege, that makes it much harder to figure out your CCLL ...


Beige, beige, beige. That's it. How is that possible?


Some folks never register on the sticks. Do you have the other
physical signs like the smell on the breath or the dry mouth?
Those are more accurate and more sensative than the sticks.

When folks register on the sticks, the response is that the
sticks are like a pregnancy test. Either you're positive or
not. When folks register on the sticks that's only part of
the answer. The sticks can fail to register and give false
negatives, but if the sticks change at all they show ketones.
The sticks never give false positive. But the sticks are
supposed to show amounts and it's possible to have amounts
too low for the sticks to register.

Ketosis isn't mandatory to lose stored fat. Low fat folks
do lose stored fat and they aren't in ketosis. Even if you
can use lower carb to keep your blood sugar under control
so you aren't hungry, that's still good enough to lose.

Take a step back. You've spent months clutching on the
obvious and you've stalled because you did that. It is time
to try something else. The obvious has already failed for you,
so you may as well try the non-obvious.


I know it's time to try something different. I've been insanely doing
the same thing that hasn't been working, expecting it to somehow
magically start working. That IS the definition of insanity!


So ready or not it is time to try something else.

Go for the higher carb intake. Cautiously. Five grams this
week, five more in a few weeks, build up across time. Keep
within about the same range to total calories, eating different
food not just more to get the extra five. Start your meals with
the veggies to get to your quota and let the veggies fill you
somewhat. Do that and you'll naturally end up eating less of
the rest of the meals.

Other folks have recommended just cutting calories. I've
recommended swapping some number of other calories for more
carb calories. You could always combine the two sets of
suggestions and do a little of both.
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Old August 21st, 2004, 09:00 PM
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When folks register on the sticks, the response is that the
sticks are like a pregnancy test. Either you're positive or
not. When folks register on the sticks that's only part of
the answer. The sticks can fail to register and give false
negatives, but if the sticks change at all they show ketones.
The sticks never give false positive. But the sticks are
supposed to show amounts and it's possible to have amounts
too low for the sticks to register.


IIRC (I've never used them personally) they only test for one type of ketone,
and there are more than one.
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Old August 23rd, 2004, 02:57 PM
Doug Freyburger
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LCer09 wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:

Either you're positive or not ... But the sticks are
supposed to show amounts and it's possible to have amounts
too low for the sticks to register.


IIRC (I've never used them personally) they only test for
one type of ketone, and there are more than one.


The three main ketones appear in a set ratio, so a test that
detects one shows the presence of the others.
 




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