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Old December 26th, 2004, 01:12 PM
T5ayLor
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Hi all

I am new to this newsgroup. I saw a friend last week who had lost about 60
pounds on LC. I haven't seen him in about a year, so I don't know if I believe
him when he says he lost 30 pounds his first month of dieting!! Is such
dramatic weight loss really possible with LC?

Thanks!!
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Old December 26th, 2004, 03:48 PM
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"T5ayLor" wrote in message
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Hi all

I am new to this newsgroup. I saw a friend last week who had lost about

60
pounds on LC. I haven't seen him in about a year, so I don't know if I

believe
him when he says he lost 30 pounds his first month of dieting!! Is such
dramatic weight loss really possible with LC?

Thanks!!


Possible: Yes
Probable: No

The more weight one has to lose, the faster one loses on low-carb. If
someone is grossly overweight, it would be possible to lose that much in the
first month, but extremely uncommon and highly unlikely. Many people seem
to lose 8 or 10 pounds in the first two weeks as the body's cells give up
their glycogen stores with associated water, but after that the weight loss
slows to a reasonable pace.


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Peter
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Old December 26th, 2004, 05:29 PM
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T5ayLor wrote:
|| Hi all
||
|| I am new to this newsgroup. I saw a friend last week who had lost
|| about 60 pounds on LC. I haven't seen him in about a year, so I
|| don't know if I believe him when he says he lost 30 pounds his first
|| month of dieting!! Is such dramatic weight loss really possible
|| with LC?
||
|| Thanks!!

If your friend is very large and has significant muscle mass, then it is
certainly possible to lose 30 lbs in one month.

However, it is likely that a goodly amount of that lose is water, not fat.
A guy with lots of muscle could easily hold 10 to 15 lbs of water in the
muscles that goes away once muscle gylcogen is reduced though following a
low carb diet. Then, if this person is very active and if significant
appetite supression kics in due to low carbing, the remaing weight loss
could be in the form of fat.

However, this is not something everyone should expect (quick water weight
loss is something to expect, the maybe not 15 lbs!). This is a YMMV kind of
thing.


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Old December 26th, 2004, 08:24 PM
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(T5ayLor) wrote:


Hi all

I am new to this newsgroup. I saw a friend last week who had lost about 60
pounds on LC. I haven't seen him in about a year, so I don't know if I believe
him when he says he lost 30 pounds his first month of dieting!! Is such
dramatic weight loss really possible with LC?

Thanks!!


Yes, especially for those who are grossly overweight and are planning
to quit and put it all back on. Fast off-fast on. ALso people refuse
to accept that 5-10 pounds of what you lose with the glucose/water
storage that it natural to the body. This is 5-10 pounds of weight
that you will regain whenever you consume more carbs and will melt off
within days whenever you go very low on carbs. This is swing weight.
In the beginning it thrills people and they fantasize they will lose
at that rate forever. Others become crushed because the moment they
stop low carbing they regain 5-10 pounds and they give up beause it
wasn't worth it. They have no idea why their body works the way it
does and just flounder around.

I lost 16 pounds in first 4 weeks,
30 pounds by the 9th week
60 pounds by week 20.
75 pound by week 29.
I've maintained about 77-84 lbs down and Jan 12 will be my one year
anniversary.

Low carb isn't for everybody, but for some it may be essential to
getting your body under control. IMHO low-carb is the stricter version
of the diet all diabetics should be on. If you respond well to low
carb it is probably because you are suffering from sugar/insulin
problems that are going undiagnosed. It doesn't appear that doctors
are diagnosing these issues untils years or decades after they start
when enough damage has been done that no one can ignore the problem. I
now have no doubt that I would be diabetic later in life.


DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/267/Dec-264/225
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint. not counting (CCLL=50-60)
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Old December 27th, 2004, 12:35 AM
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T5ayLor wrote:
Hi all

I am new to this newsgroup. I saw a friend last week who had lost about 60
pounds on LC. I haven't seen him in about a year, so I don't know if I believe
him when he says he lost 30 pounds his first month of dieting!! Is such
dramatic weight loss really possible with LC?

Thanks!!


You can see some statistics which chart the weight loss progress of a
bunch of people who have participated here on this newsgroup in Carol
Ann's "Weight Loss Challenge". These stats give you a better idea of
what kind of weight loss you can look forward to achieving through
long-term low carbing.

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/dietpage.htm


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--Jenny Type 2 diabetes since 1998. Hba1c 5.7%
Low Carbing for 5 years. 140 lbs (goal)

Cut the "carbs" to respond to my email address.
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http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures site
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm
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Old December 27th, 2004, 12:39 AM
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"T5ayLor" wrote in message
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Hi all

I am new to this newsgroup. I saw a friend last week who had lost about

60
pounds on LC. I haven't seen him in about a year, so I don't know if I

believe
him when he says he lost 30 pounds his first month of dieting!! Is such
dramatic weight loss really possible with LC?


In the 1980s when I was much younger and my metabolism much nicer
I lost 30 pounds in six weeks. So dramatic weight loss is possible. It's more
likely in someone who is dramatically overweight. and men usually lose faster
than women.

Having said that, when I lost the 30 lbs I was 170 and dropped to 140.
In that first month I lost 8 lbs the first week, 5 lbs a week for the next two
then it dropped to 3 lbs/week after that . I'm sure a lot of that was water
weight but I was thrilled to see it leave! I kept it off for 4-5 years before
letting my weight creep back up. Now my weight loss is significantly slower
however, low carbing keeps my triglycerides low and that's what I really want
out of this.

Good luck.
Remember it's not a race, it's about getting healthy.

Susan
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Old December 27th, 2004, 08:33 AM
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T5ayLor wrote:
Hi all

I am new to this newsgroup. I saw a friend last week who had lost about 60
pounds on LC. I haven't seen him in about a year, so I don't know if I believe
him when he says he lost 30 pounds his first month of dieting!! Is such
dramatic weight loss really possible with LC?

Thanks!!


It might be possible if your friend weight like 600 or 700 pounds.
Otherwise I think that is an unusually large loss.

I just lost about 9 lbs in the last week. But that is the first week
after starting again. I am sure I won't lose 9 lb/week for the next 3 weeks!

doug
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Old December 27th, 2004, 11:01 AM
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Being very overweight may help lose more lbs in the first week, when
much of the weight loss is water. But if you followed The Biggest
Loser on TV, one thing that was apparent was that the most overweight
guy, at like 440lbs, was rarely the one that lost the most actual lbs
each week. That despite being on a strict diet and doing massive
amounts of excercise. In fact, unless they put some new final twist
into the show, he's going to lose, since percentage wise, he's only
down somewhere around 11% weight loss, while the leaders are about
twice that. I would think that for most people not doing huge amounts
of excercise, the daily calorie reqts don't scale anywhere near
proportional to an individuals weight. Then, very obese people are
more likely to be doing less excercise and may also have metabolic
tendencies that helped get them very fat to begin with.

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Old December 27th, 2004, 12:17 PM
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|| Being very overweight may help lose more lbs in the first week, when
|| much of the weight loss is water. But if you followed The Biggest
|| Loser on TV, one thing that was apparent was that the most overweight
|| guy, at like 440lbs, was rarely the one that lost the most actual lbs
|| each week. That despite being on a strict diet and doing massive
|| amounts of excercise. In fact, unless they put some new final twist
|| into the show, he's going to lose, since percentage wise, he's only
|| down somewhere around 11% weight loss, while the leaders are about
|| twice that.

Using precentages could be very unfair, because 11% of 440 is 48.4 whereas
11% of 220 is 24.2 lbs. Also, using mere weight says nothing about bodyfat
vs LBM, which also could be changing.


|| I would think that for most people not doing huge
|| amounts of excercise, the daily calorie reqts don't scale anywhere
|| near proportional to an individuals weight.

I don't know about that. Being large always made it easy for me to lose
weight. I started at 367 lbs. I could lose up 0.5 lbs a day on a high carb
diet (not sustained for long, though). I would think that calorie burn will
scale close to proportional for most people, maybe moreso depending on the
type of exercise and weight distributoin.


|| Then, very obese people
|| are more likely to be doing less excercise and may also have
|| metabolic tendencies that helped get them very fat to begin with.

There are lots of very obese people who can move and they can exercise. It
is foolhard to draw conclusions from a single person, especially one from a
TV show.

The possibility of losing 30 lbs in a month will only exist for the right
kind of person. Very likely a very large male with lots of muscle mass
under lots of fat. These are the types of guys who indeed can burn a lot of
calories exercising and they certainly can exercise. Who know if the person
who is the subject of this post falls into this group. I would think a
strict LC diet would still be necessary to see the required drop is scale
weight (water loss + fat loss).


 




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