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Old April 29th, 2009, 06:50 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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I have lost 16.6 lbs in the last 7 weeks and only changed 1 meal a
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Old April 29th, 2009, 10:44 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:13:45 -0500, MU wrote
(in article ):

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:50:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I have lost 16.6 lbs in the last 7 weeks and only changed 1 meal a
day.


If you were eating 2.75 pounds of food and dropped one meal that weighed
one pound, you would achieve the same results. Except that you would not
have lost weight so drastically and placed yourself in an inevitable
rebound, return to or past original weight, for which you are now most
assuredly doomed.


If you continue eating as on the diet, your weight will not rebound. This is
generally true with any diet which results in a weight loss.

The reason the vast majority do not maintain their weight loss is that they
go back to their old eating habits.

Wonder if two pounds of celery or two pounds of peanut butter would give the
same weight loss in a short overweight female and a 6 feet 4 inch overweight
man. Also in some who leads a sedentary life versus someone doing a lot of
physical activity at work and home. Wonder if an athlete who participates in
the Ironman (swimming, bicycling and running) in Hawaii can do that on a 2
pound diet ..... most of these athletes are thin and would expect they eat a
lot more than Chung's "2 PD" All these simple questions without any answer.

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Old April 29th, 2009, 10:44 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology
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On 2009-04-29, MU wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:50:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I have lost 16.6 lbs in the last 7 weeks and only changed 1 meal a
day.


If you were eating 2.75 pounds of food and dropped one meal that weighed
one pound, you would achieve the same results. Except that you would not


``Same results, except not.'' Bull**** equivocation, combined with
blind guessing.

have lost weight so drastically and placed yourself in an inevitable
rebound, return to or past original weight, for which you are now most
assuredly doomed.


Pitiful imbecile, how do you know 16.6 pounds is drastic? It depends on the
total adiposity.

For someone carrying 20 pounds of body fat, it would be drastic (pretty much
regardless of how long it took, really).

For someone carrying 70 pounds, it wouldn't be drastic to lose 16.6 pounds
in 7 weeks.

There is empirical evidence that maximum amount of body fat that can be shed by
means of a dietary deficit, without loss of lean mass (which qualifies
as a good definition of non-drastic loss) is a fraction of the total adiposity.

This fraction is about 0.8% per day, give or take. (Source: this can be derived
from the results stated in the paper ``A limit on the energy transfer rate from
the human fat store in hypophagia'').

From this we can easily calculate the percentage over 49 days:

1 - (1 - .008)^49 = 0.325

(Note: ^ represents exponentiation).

I.e. over 7 weeks, you can safely lose about 33% of your body fat. If you are
carrying 48 pounds of it, then this is 16. The more fat you have in excess of
48 pounds, the easier and safer it is to lose 16 pounds over 7 weeks.
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Old April 29th, 2009, 11:33 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Apr 29, 5:44*pm, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.support.diet.low-carb.]
On 2009-04-29, MU wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:50:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


I have lost 16.6 lbs in the last 7 weeks and only changed 1 meal a
day.


If you were eating 2.75 pounds of food and dropped one meal that weighed
one pound, you would achieve the same results. Except that you would not


``Same results, except not.'' Bull**** equivocation, combined with
blind guessing.

have lost weight so drastically and placed yourself in an inevitable
rebound, return to or past original weight, for which you are now most
assuredly doomed.


Pitiful imbecile, how do you know 16.6 pounds is drastic? It depends on the
total adiposity.

For someone carrying 20 pounds of body fat, it would be drastic (pretty much
regardless of how long it took, really).

For someone carrying 70 pounds, it wouldn't be drastic to lose 16.6 pounds
in 7 weeks.

There is empirical evidence that maximum amount of body fat that can be shed by
means of a dietary deficit, without loss of lean mass (which qualifies
as a good definition of non-drastic loss) is a fraction of the total adiposity.

This fraction is about 0.8% per day, give or take. (Source: this can be derived
from the results stated in the paper ``A limit on the energy transfer rate from
the human fat store in hypophagia'').

From this we can easily calculate the percentage over 49 days:

* 1 - (1 - .008)^49 = 0.325

* (Note: ^ represents exponentiation).

I.e. over 7 weeks, you can safely lose about 33% of your body fat. If you are
carrying 48 pounds of it, then this is 16. The more fat you have in excess of
48 pounds, the easier and safer it is to lose 16 pounds over 7 weeks.


Checkout this website http://www.smash-marketing.com/diet.htm for some
non-exercise, non-diet tips to losing weight
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Old April 30th, 2009, 06:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:44:31 -0500, MM wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:13:45 -0500, MU wrote
(in article ):

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:50:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I have lost 16.6 lbs in the last 7 weeks and only changed 1 meal a
day.


If you were eating 2.75 pounds of food and dropped one meal that weighed
one pound, you would achieve the same results. Except that you would not
have lost weight so drastically and placed yourself in an inevitable
rebound, return to or past original weight, for which you are now most
assuredly doomed.


If you continue eating as on the diet, your weight will not rebound. This is
generally true with any diet which results in a weight loss.


Correct. The problem is that so few, less than 3% over time remain on
the diet. Rebound is practically inevitable by conclusion.

The reason the vast majority do not maintain their weight loss is that they
go back to their old eating habits.


See above.

Wonder if two pounds of celery or two pounds of peanut butter would give the
same weight loss in a short overweight female and a 6 feet 4 inch overweight
man. Also in some who leads a sedentary life versus someone doing a lot of
physical activity at work and home. Wonder if an athlete who participates in
the Ironman (swimming, bicycling and running) in Hawaii can do that on a 2
pound diet ..... most of these athletes are thin and would expect they eat a
lot more than Chung's "2 PD" All these simple questions without any answer.


Answers are simple.

No one gains weight, everyone reaches optimal weight by eating 2PD or
less. Considering that I have extensive experience with training and
athletes in traning, and common folk, I speak from those realities.
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Old April 30th, 2009, 06:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:44:49 +0000 (UTC), Kaz Kylheku wrote:

If you were eating 2.75 pounds of food and dropped one meal that weighed
one pound, you would achieve the same results. Except that you would not


``Same results, except not.'' Bull**** equivocation, combined with
blind guessing.


Goodbye, little child.

*plonk*
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Old April 30th, 2009, 06:32 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:15:15 -0500, MU wrote
(in article ):

Answers are simple.

No one gains weight, everyone reaches optimal weight by eating 2PD or
less. Considering that I have extensive experience with training and
athletes in traning, and common folk, I speak from those realities.


Hmmm ..... so will two identical twins one eating 2PD of peanut butter and
the other eating 2PD of celery result in the same weight of the two even
though there is a big difference of calories consumed ..... they both have
the same activity level so the only variable is the what they eat .... would
seem that the one eating two pounds of peanut butter which has more calories
than the two pounds of celery would end up with a much higher weight.

Perhaps you could inform us of just what is your "extensive experience" ?

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Old April 30th, 2009, 06:45 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:32:38 -0500, MM wrote:

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:15:15 -0500, MU wrote
(in article ):

Answers are simple.

No one gains weight, everyone reaches optimal weight by eating 2PD or
less. Considering that I have extensive experience with training and
athletes in traning, and common folk, I speak from those realities.


Hmmm ..... so will two identical twins one eating 2PD of peanut butter and
the other eating 2PD of celery result in the same weight of the two even
though there is a big difference of calories consumed ..... they both have
the same activity level so the only variable is the what they eat .... would
seem that the one eating two pounds of peanut butter which has more calories
than the two pounds of celery would end up with a much higher weight.

Perhaps you could inform us of just what is your "extensive experience" ?


Asked and answered the first paragraph, Mr. Disingenuous.

As to "extensive experience", Google is your multiple friend.
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Old April 30th, 2009, 06:52 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb,sci.med.cardiology
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:45:48 -0500, MU wrote
(in article ):

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:32:38 -0500, MM wrote:

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:15:15 -0500, MU wrote
(in article ):

Answers are simple.

No one gains weight, everyone reaches optimal weight by eating 2PD or
less. Considering that I have extensive experience with training and
athletes in traning, and common folk, I speak from those realities.


Hmmm ..... so will two identical twins one eating 2PD of peanut butter and
the other eating 2PD of celery result in the same weight of the two even
though there is a big difference of calories consumed ..... they both have
the same activity level so the only variable is the what they eat ....
would
seem that the one eating two pounds of peanut butter which has more
calories
than the two pounds of celery would end up with a much higher weight.

Perhaps you could inform us of just what is your "extensive experience" ?


Asked and answered the first paragraph, Mr. Disingenuous.

As to "extensive experience", Google is your multiple friend.


Still waiting to hear if the calories of the two pounds of food eaten if one
follows Chung's 2PD make any difference in a person's final weight.

My above extreme example was a way to try and get that answered.

Will see if the question is answered if calories make any difference in a
person's final weight if eats two pounds of food a day.


 




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