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Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death



 
 
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  #231  
Old February 9th, 2004, 04:15 PM
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Default Dr. Andrew B. Chung, Liar WAS: Chung FAQ, Issue 1 (orWhyDoesn'tHeJustShut Up?)

Bob wrote:

Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
om...

Wes Groleau wrote:


Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (under the
fourth e-mail address I've filtered this week):

hiss

You poor guy.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.


*sigh*. Get busy for a while and the nutcases come out in droves.


hiss

And you remain as a sock-puppet advertiser of a potentially dangerous and
clearly over-simplified approach to the world. For those unfamiliar, Chung
claims that weightloss is easy and guaranteed by simply never eating more
than two pounds of food a day. That's a wildly over-simplified approach to
nutrition, to say the least.


hiss

Dr. Chung, or someone with a suspiciously similar style and IP address
ranges, used to troll misc.health.diabetes as a poster called "Roos" and
continues to change email addresses frequently to avoid people's filters who
are tired of him tooting his own...


Not the same physical person, but they claim to be "friends." Roos now
uses variations on the word "Mu" as his handle and still does his very
frequent shape shifting to avoid being killfiled or easy to find in
Google.

hiss sputter hiss hiss

well, you can't really call it a horn
because it's not on his head.....


Right enough.

Bob


You poor guy.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the
author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be
trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a
few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Bob
(2) Report Bob to his ISP
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

Bob's pathological obsessions are related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which
is described completely at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet
discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has
been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been
entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian.
Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed
to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived
weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every
point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion
thread(s).

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s),
certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward
its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message
then try to discredit the messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone
who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value
and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following
observations were made:

(1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the
discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve
near-ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight
becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs
of the actual diplomas).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to
attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to
libel him. One notable example is Mr. Bob "raging and self-confident" Pastorio:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp

When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful
folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their
fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or
as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line
third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp

where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims
that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked.

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon
posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack):

(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided
insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its
author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed.

It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the
din of hissing from the peanut gallery.


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W1F522557

What is all this about?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?K57723657

  #232  
Old February 10th, 2004, 01:08 AM
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Posts: n/a
Default Dr. Andrew B. Chung, Liar WAS: Chung FAQ, Issue 1 (or WhyDoesn't He Just Shut Up?)

Bob wrote in message ...
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Wes Groleau wrote:

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (under the
fourth e-mail address I've filtered this week):

truth snipped


hiss

Bob


You poor guy.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message.
Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not
request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are
upset about reading this message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Bob
(2) Report Bob to his ISP
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

Bob's pathological obsessions are related to the 2 pound diet approach
(2PD) which is described completely at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the
Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has
been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community
service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen
from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of
Himself to better the health of folks He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are
vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated
Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and
have lost the argument soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this
discussion thread(s).

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the
argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2
pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be
"if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the
messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll"
is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no
redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting
"flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the
following observations were made:

(1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting
the discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the
2PD to achieve near-ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when
their weight becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line
(including jpegs of the actual diplomas).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have
tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they
were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Bob "raging
and self-confident" Pastorio:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp

When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements,
the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed
louder in support of their fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either
actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they
are, using the on-line third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp

where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and
libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily
debunked.

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning
the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack):

(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory
characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to
deliver one-sided insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by
cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the
2PD or its author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to
speed.

It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD
above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery.


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W1F522557

What is all this about?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?K57723657
  #233  
Old February 12th, 2004, 02:57 PM
Nico Kadel-Garcia
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Posts: n/a
Default Dr. Andrew B. Chung, Liar WAS: Chung FAQ, Issue 1 (or WhyDoesn'tHeJust Shut Up?)


"Bob" wrote in message
...
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:


*sigh*. Get busy for a while and the nutcases come out in droves.


Not droves. Just a few...


Does Chung-y Peanut Butter realize that with the substantially identical 200
line suffix ranting about you on the end of every message, he is sending
substantially identical posts and is exceeding the "Briedbart Index" of 15
identical messages within a 45-day period for spamming messages and is about
to start having his messages cancelled?


  #234  
Old February 12th, 2004, 03:12 PM
Steve
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Default Dr. Andrew B. Chung, Liar WAS: Chung FAQ, Issue 1 (or WhyDoesn'tHeJust Shut Up?)

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 8:57:24 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote
(in message ):


"Bob" wrote in message
...
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:


*sigh*. Get busy for a while and the nutcases come out in droves.


Not droves. Just a few...


Does Chung-y Peanut Butter realize that with the substantially identical 200
line suffix ranting about you on the end of every message, he is sending
substantially identical posts and is exceeding the "Briedbart Index" of 15
identical messages within a 45-day period for spamming messages and is about
to start having his messages cancelled?



Heh! Would that it were so. As far as I can no one, but no one,
honors cancels these days. Good idea though :-)

--
Steve

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

  #235  
Old February 12th, 2004, 05:34 PM
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Posts: n/a
Default Dr. Andrew B. Chung, Liar WAS: Chung FAQ, Issue 1 (orWhyDoesn'tHeJust Shut Up?)

Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
...
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:


*sigh*. Get busy for a while and the nutcases come out in droves.


Not droves. Just a few...


Does Chung-y Peanut Butter


Peanut Butter?

Is this a term of endearment from a member of the peanut gallery?

realize that with the substantially identical 200
line suffix


Substantially?

Either it is or it isn't.

ranting about you on the end of every message,


Bob would like to think everything is about him. He needs the ego boost.

he is sending
substantially identical posts


Is this post one of those identical ones ?

and is exceeding the "Briedbart Index" of 15
identical messages within a 45-day period for spamming messages and is about
to start having his messages cancelled?


Thank you for the kind-hearted warning :-)


You poor guy.

You remain in my prayers, neighbor.

FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because
the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the
header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this
message, a few suggestions:

(1) Yell at Nico ;-)
(2) Report Nico to his ISP ;-)
(3) Killfile this thread.
(4) Killfile me.
(5) Read about free speech.

Nico's pathological obsessions are related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD)
which is described completely at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet
discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and
has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been
entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian.
Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp

From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently
opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every
perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument
soundly at every point:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp

These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion
thread(s).

However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s),
certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward
its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message
then try to discredit the messenger."

Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is
someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming
discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars.

These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following
observations were made:

(1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously.
(2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the
discussion(s).
(a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to
achieve near-ideal weight.
(b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight
becomes near-ideal.
(c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47
(3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s).
(4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive).
(5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including
jpegs of the actual diplomas).

Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to
attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to
libel him. One notable example is Mr. Bob "raging and self-confident" Pastorio:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp

When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful
folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their
fallen hero.

Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or
as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line
third-party resources at:

http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp

where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous
claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked.

Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon
posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack):

(1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or
accountability).
(2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters.
(3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver
one-sided insults.
(4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting.
(5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its
author.

and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file.

It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed.

It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the
din of hissing from the peanut gallery.


Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

--
Who is the humblest person in the universe?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W1F522557

What is all this about?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?T2CA21267

 




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