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Discouragement and will power
Ever wonder if you're ever gonna be able to lose the weight ya want ?
Seems like always something getting in the way. I just need one day where I eat too much (2 giant subs today), and feel like an alcoholic whose fallen off the wagon. Then, there's medication that hurts, weather, mobility, one flu after another in winter. Maybe some people are just weak and hopeless like me. How do you keep going when seems like too big a hill to climb ? How do you eat when not as active but without slowing metabolism and being weak with low blood sugar ? |
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Discouragement and will power
On Dec 28, 1:00*am, PB wrote:
Ever wonder if you're ever gonna be able to lose the weight ya want ? Seems like always something getting in the way. I just need one day where I eat too much (2 giant subs today), and feel like an alcoholic whose fallen off the wagon. Then, there's medication that hurts, weather, mobility, one flu after another in winter. Maybe some people are just weak and hopeless like me. How do you keep going when seems like too big a hill to climb ? How do you eat when not as active but without slowing metabolism and being weak with low blood sugar ? Lack of vitamins and/or minerals? |
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Discouragement and will power
"PB" wrote in message ... Ever wonder if you're ever gonna be able to lose the weight ya want ? Seems like always something getting in the way. I just need one day where I eat too much (2 giant subs today), and feel like an alcoholic whose fallen off the wagon. Just like an alcoholic, it is one day at a time. Then, there's medication that hurts, weather, mobility, one flu after another in winter. One flu after another? Seems unlikely. Get a flu shot. Wash hands often. Stay away from sick people. Have you discussed the medication that hurts with your doctor? Maybe some people are just weak and hopeless like me. All of us are weak. But you don't have to be hopeless. Therapy, Prozac, support groups, prayer, posting here can all help depending on your personal inclinations. How do you keep going when seems like too big a hill to climb ? One day at a time. How do you eat when not as active but without slowing metabolism and being weak with low blood sugar ? Keep track of what you eat. Eat enough but not too much. Divide the day's food into a number of small meals, like 6 per day. Get plenty fiber. Low fat works for some, low carb for others. Do you suffer from hypoglycemia? Or is your mind just playing tricks and telling you that you are feeling weak and need that piece of cake? Have you had your blood sugar tested? del |
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Discouragement and will power
PB wrote:
Ever wonder if you're ever gonna be able to lose the weight ya want ? Since the answer for almost everyone is no, I don't need to wonder. I know I'm not going to hit numbers as low as I would like to pick. Picking goals by emotion instead of using an objective method is extremely common. Seems like always something getting in the way. That's how life works. Temptation ends when life ends. Tempting food doesn't ever stop triggering addictive behavior patterns. I just need one day where I eat too much (2 giant subs today), and feel like an alcoholic whose fallen off the wagon. Feelings or symptoms, doesn't matter which you refer to - Tempting foods trigger addictive behavior patterns. One goal is to identify foods that kick me off the wagon and avoid those foods as mcuh as I can. And to work my way back onto the wagon when I fail. Then, there's medication that hurts, weather, mobility, one flu after another in winter. The cool thing about low carbing for me - I'm almost never ill not even when my adherence is terrible. It's amazing how well it works to have veggies most meals, avoid sweets and starches even with poor avoidance track record. Maybe some people are just weak and hopeless like me. Very many. Walk around the mall some time. Of all the fat people you see, do you actually think even one of them hasn't tried and failed? The whole point of the fat acceptance movement is not folks who've never tried, but folks who have tried and failed so many times they've given up trying. How do you keep going when seems like too big a hill to climb ? This is simple, and extremely hard to swallow - I have come to understand that if I stop trying I gain slow but sure. When I fall off the wagon if I don't try I rapidly regain to my previous high (cause and effect) and then resume the low but sure gaining pattern I was on before I started trying. So what choice do I *really* have? Try whether I succeed or fail and at least have very good health, or stop trying and see sudden regain followed by gradual gain. It becomes a question of varying the details of what I try to see if something works less poorly, or giving up completely. For me there's no middle ground and for very many there's no middle ground. It may be like fighting the tides, but the choice is drowning. How do you eat when not as active but without slowing metabolism and being weak with low blood sugar ? Low carbing handles the low blood sugar issue so I just pay the two week price to get into that cycle. To avoid slowing metabolism I studied for years what goes on and why plans start low and move up to higher carb levels. They do it because doing that avoids slowing metabolism. That and exercise. |
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Discouragement and will power
On Dec 28, 1:00*am, PB wrote:
I just need one day where I eat too much (2 giant subs today), and feel like an alcoholic whose fallen off the wagon. An alcoholic who goes on a binge for one night doesn't suddenly lose his job, beat his wife, etc. (obviously these are possibilities, but I'm making a point) It takes several of these incidents and a continued trend to actually be "off the wagon." The same applies to binge eating. If you eat too much one day, just get right back at it the next day, and COMPLETELY IGNORE what you did yesterday. Otherwise, you'll either make yourself depressed and spiral into overeating, or you'll freak yourself out and undereat, making an overeating episode more likely. How do you keep going when seems like too big a hill to climb ? By going. There's no magic to it. Put your nose to the ground and keep going. What you ate yesterday or yesteryear has absolutely no reason to influence what you eat today. |
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James G wrote:
PB wrote: I just need one day where I eat too much (2 giant subs today), and feel like an alcoholic whose fallen off the wagon. ... It takes several of these incidents and a continued trend to actually be "off the wagon." Just to check if you understand what you just wrote - You just denied the reality of patterns of addictive behavior and that when dealing with addictions one use renews those patterns. Deny all you like, patterns of addictive behavior happen. An alcoholic who goes on a binge for one night doesn't suddenly lose his job, beat his wife, etc. (obviously these are possibilities, but I'm making a point) The same applies to binge eating. Taking these out of order, your assertion about binge eating does apply to almost all binge eaters, but it badly fails the reality check when applied to alcoholics. Binge eating does continue and eventually does interfere with health to the point of interfering with work for some people. If you eat too much one day, just get right back at it the next day, and COMPLETELY IGNORE what you did yesterday. If this were true and there were no physical symptoms driving binge eating behavior, then anyone who ever went on an eating binge could simply decide to stop, stop over eating, and resume dieting. Let's get honest about this - Do you actually imagine there's even one fat person in the world who hasn't attempted that approach and failed in the attempt? Simply deciding to stop over eating only works if you switch to a way of eating that turns off cravings, which is of course not the same as simply deciding. The reason so many fat folks fail the attempt is that it is based on a false assumption. There *are* physical symptoms that drive folks to continue over eating. In Atkins style low carbing there's a two week process called Induction specifically designed as a detox program to turn off such cravings. It doesn't matter what type of plan you try, if it fails to turn off cravings there's going to be an unending pull to drive you off that plan. Find a type of plan that turns off cravings or face cravings until you decide to quit. It doesn't matter what type of plan you try, none of them work when off the wagon. Otherwise, you'll either make yourself depressed and spiral into overeating, or you'll freak yourself out and undereat, making an overeating episode more likely. Both of which trends have both physical and psychological drivers. How do you keep going when seems like too big a hill to climb ? By going. *There's no magic to it. *Put your nose to the ground and keep going. *What you ate yesterday or yesteryear has absolutely no reason to influence what you eat today. Once you've completed a detox program to make that assertion correct. One hard part I've learned - For me it's easy to stay on low carb. I've learned what carb intake levels I can eat to not have any cravings. I've learned what specific foods I need to avoid that trigger cravings independent of carb levels. I know how to go through the detox program to turn off cravings when I fall off the wagon. But the effort of the detox program is so much higher than the effort to stay on the program it's harder each time to get back on the wagon when I fall off. I've stayed on as long as two years, as short as two months. It's always a struggle to get back on, easy to stay on, trivial to fall off. At least it's not like when I was attempting low fat where for me it was almost as hard to stay on it as it was to get on it. Ah to be in that percentage of the population who gets no cravings while on low fat. |
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Discouragement and will power
You have to actively work on your subconscious mental programming and your motivation. If you don't do that but you try to use your will power anyway, then you are fighting a losing battle against the programming, emotions, and impulses that are in your subconscious mind. I listen to hypnosis recordings about losing weight. I listen to affirmation recordings about loving to exercise. I also visualize that I have achieved my weight loss goas and how great that feels. All these things are for programming your subconscious mind to lose weight. Then your conscious mind can simply carry out the impulses that the subconscious gives it to diet and exercise. Your conscious mind doesn't have to fight your subconscious mind through "will power." I have to keep listening to my audio recordings on a frequent basis, because their effect on me fades within a few days. I think will power really doesn't work for very long at all. Will power always seems to break before long if that's all you rely on. If you want to change your behavior, you have to reprogram your subconscious and you have to use techniques such as goal setting and visualization to highly motivate yourself. That's what it's all about, not will power. To make your body and mind feel good and function well, you need plenty of high nutrient fruits and vegetables and lean meats. And you need nutritional supplements. The most important one is fish oil. I also take a lot of others. I think the essential supplements you must take every day are Fish oil and vitamin D for health and chromium piccolinate for fat burning. I also take green tea extract to keep up my metabolism. So those are the minimum pills I have to take each day. I have a bunch of others but I don't take them every day because it's kind of a hassle to take a lot of pills. I don't use any drugs though. I only use nutritional supplements. |
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