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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
I think that I'm developing my way of life. It probably may be too
routine but it works. I have my meals down and while I do not measure everything (fish, shrimp, chicken), I do measure beef and cheese (on the rare blue cheese occasions) and lamb and nuts. Lunches are also standards at this point. When I do go out to eat, I have gotten very use to taking about half home (or on road trips, to the cooler). I don't seem to have the same driven cravenings for potato chips on the drives home from work and do not snack on cheese like I use to. Desserts still have my name on them. Which explains the Costco chocolate cake and now the fruit cake. But I am trying to limit those indulgences to once a week. Snacking on a lot of dried fruits but trying to limit them but sometimes that dried mango takes over. PORTION control has definitely been a prime driver. I use to eat a ton, almost an entire package of 12 (dried) ozs of pasta as dinner. Now I really don't do that since potatoes have built-in portion control. And I do kasha and make sure I come close to a one cup serving. But it does not have the same calling pasta did. I like kasha a lot but it does not seem to demand to be overeaten. I really have to do bulghur again, too. I have some but like the kasha. Breakfasts are also not measured very often. I should probably get a handle on a cup of whatever again, just for control. We just have to remember that we have a problem and unlike alcohol (I never did much) or cigarettes (never), food cannot simply be avoided. So we need to keep HOPING and working on it. I do lose it like Prairie with Miss Meringues but they are more kindly than losing it with real ice cream or cheese. And I do force a late night pickle down rather than more POINTS of any other kind. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:49:08 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Yesterday we went out to lunch, which we frequently do when babysitting DGD, since then the cafeteria she loves has to clean up the mess. My Ma loves fried anything. So do I, but you know how often I eat that sort of thing (same as any of us). We bought the lunch special plate of chicken fried chicken breast. There is not any skin, but there is a nice crunchy fried whatever all over it. I also got a vegetable plate, which has 3 veggies. I got mac and cheese (guess who loves that) canned corn (ditto) and green beans. Then when we got to table, I cut the chicken into 3 pieces, put about 2 T of mac and cheese, 2 T of corn, all the green beans and a third of the chicken on my plate. I really figured I would be up a pound this morning, but still nice ole 157. I think this whole thing is about portion control with the high calorie/fat/sugar items, and liberal servings of 0 point items for satiety and crunch (the chew factor) and this becomes not so hard. Are you also finding maintenance not as difficult as it was at first? I am! I hope that lasts! "Fred" wrote in message .. . That is well put. I have been UP there now twice. So I know what's possible. But I also know I have a lot more tools as far as food consumption. Now, attitude, mood, spirit, whatever might have more power behind it then just the tools. So it will need constant monitoring and vigilance. I wish us all the best of luck and discipline. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:32:12 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think she meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that? Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for "safety" I might want to move it down just a bit further so that I draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like 164, oh, well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155 should be just a rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break the rules but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing a Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy bears last night and these are not tiny bags. Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being "done" just from the terror of going the other way. I am going to set my "back to journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too have not been journaling this past week and I am at a new low. I think this just takes daily weigh ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show, and hanging around here to keep the focus. I really have a hard time believing this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I did not know well said something that caused me to say something about being fat They looked at me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh I forgot. I'm not. |
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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one
aspect of being thinner - I am running colder. I probably should rev up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body. On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:51:03 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" wrote: Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at meetings. Congratulations!! "Fred" wrote in message .. . Okay here we go: I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES! Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2) But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g) (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r) Fred 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 |
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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
Maybe my pasta trick might work for you. Or tricks. I love pasta with some
things, like the chicken randazzo. I weigh out TWO dry ounces of whole wheat pasta. I overcook it just a tad (it nearly tastes like pasta this way) I add chopped zucchini or tatuma squash to my sauce for volume on the plate. Those three things knock the heck out of a very very satisfying very large serving of pasta, which still rings my bell on some occations. And yes. I take home half, or share a serving with Ma. And cherry tomatoes and carrot sticks take up space on the plate so my chips servings are much smaller and weighed. I love desserts too, but I go for a tiny something sweet at least once a day, as opposed to larger and less frequent. I don't do well with delayed gratification "Fred" wrote in message ... I think that I'm developing my way of life. It probably may be too routine but it works. I have my meals down and while I do not measure everything (fish, shrimp, chicken), I do measure beef and cheese (on the rare blue cheese occasions) and lamb and nuts. Lunches are also standards at this point. When I do go out to eat, I have gotten very use to taking about half home (or on road trips, to the cooler). I don't seem to have the same driven cravenings for potato chips on the drives home from work and do not snack on cheese like I use to. Desserts still have my name on them. Which explains the Costco chocolate cake and now the fruit cake. But I am trying to limit those indulgences to once a week. Snacking on a lot of dried fruits but trying to limit them but sometimes that dried mango takes over. PORTION control has definitely been a prime driver. I use to eat a ton, almost an entire package of 12 (dried) ozs of pasta as dinner. Now I really don't do that since potatoes have built-in portion control. And I do kasha and make sure I come close to a one cup serving. But it does not have the same calling pasta did. I like kasha a lot but it does not seem to demand to be overeaten. I really have to do bulghur again, too. I have some but like the kasha. Breakfasts are also not measured very often. I should probably get a handle on a cup of whatever again, just for control. We just have to remember that we have a problem and unlike alcohol (I never did much) or cigarettes (never), food cannot simply be avoided. So we need to keep HOPING and working on it. I do lose it like Prairie with Miss Meringues but they are more kindly than losing it with real ice cream or cheese. And I do force a late night pickle down rather than more POINTS of any other kind. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:49:08 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Yesterday we went out to lunch, which we frequently do when babysitting DGD, since then the cafeteria she loves has to clean up the mess. My Ma loves fried anything. So do I, but you know how often I eat that sort of thing (same as any of us). We bought the lunch special plate of chicken fried chicken breast. There is not any skin, but there is a nice crunchy fried whatever all over it. I also got a vegetable plate, which has 3 veggies. I got mac and cheese (guess who loves that) canned corn (ditto) and green beans. Then when we got to table, I cut the chicken into 3 pieces, put about 2 T of mac and cheese, 2 T of corn, all the green beans and a third of the chicken on my plate. I really figured I would be up a pound this morning, but still nice ole 157. I think this whole thing is about portion control with the high calorie/fat/sugar items, and liberal servings of 0 point items for satiety and crunch (the chew factor) and this becomes not so hard. Are you also finding maintenance not as difficult as it was at first? I am! I hope that lasts! "Fred" wrote in message .. . That is well put. I have been UP there now twice. So I know what's possible. But I also know I have a lot more tools as far as food consumption. Now, attitude, mood, spirit, whatever might have more power behind it then just the tools. So it will need constant monitoring and vigilance. I wish us all the best of luck and discipline. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:32:12 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you think she meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that? Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for "safety" I might want to move it down just a bit further so that I draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like 164, oh, well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155 should be just a rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break the rules but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing a Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy bears last night and these are not tiny bags. Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being "done" just from the terror of going the other way. I am going to set my "back to journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too have not been journaling this past week and I am at a new low. I think this just takes daily weigh ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show, and hanging around here to keep the focus. I really have a hard time believing this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I did not know well said something that caused me to say something about being fat They looked at me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh I forgot. I'm not. |
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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
Great job on the loss Fred!!!!
-- Janice 263/253.75/150 (maybe 130) "Fred" wrote in message ... Okay here we go: I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES! Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2) But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g) (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r) Fred 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 |
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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc.
Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time! I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so much? -- Brenda 209/174/150 NYNY goal 160 "Fred" wrote in message ... Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one aspect of being thinner - I am running colder. I probably should rev up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body. On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:51:03 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" wrote: Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at meetings. Congratulations!! "Fred" wrote in message .. . Okay here we go: I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES! Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2) But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g) (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r) Fred 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 |
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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
good, Lee
Fred wrote in message ... Okay here we go: I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES! Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2) But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g) (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r) Fred 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 |
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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
Brenda me too, my feet are Always cold.! And it is not a cold climate here,
as I am sure I have mentioned .. "Brenda Hammond" wrote in message ... A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc. Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time! I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so much? -- Brenda 209/174/150 NYNY goal 160 "Fred" wrote in message ... Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one aspect of being thinner - I am running colder. I probably should rev up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body. On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:51:03 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" wrote: Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at meetings. Congratulations!! "Fred" wrote in message .. . Okay here we go: I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES! Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2) But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g) (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r) Fred 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 |
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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
Great job this week.
"Fred" wrote in message ... Okay here we go: I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES! Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2) But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g) (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r) Fred 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 |
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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
Me three! Today I wore long underwear (top and bottom), layered under
slacks, sweater, and jacket. I was still cold. For the last couple of months, I get cold easily and have a hard time getting warm. My feet STAY cold, as do my fingers. A few years ago, I ran a fan in my office. Now I'm running a foot warmer and wishing I could type with mittens on. I was starting to think I needed to have my thyroid checked. But maybe being cold is a normal effect of weight loss? Prairie Roots On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:49:55 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" wrote: A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc. Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time! I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so much? |
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NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th
Yes, you have mentioned it after returning from the beach just a few
weeks ago. I would probably feel quite warm down your way. Cold feet, huh................. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:40:33 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Brenda me too, my feet are Always cold.! And it is not a cold climate here, as I am sure I have mentioned .. "Brenda Hammond" wrote in message ... A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc. Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time! I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so much? -- Brenda 209/174/150 NYNY goal 160 "Fred" wrote in message ... Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one aspect of being thinner - I am running colder. I probably should rev up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body. On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:51:03 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" wrote: Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at meetings. Congratulations!! "Fred" wrote in message .. . Okay here we go: I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds (that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6 pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2 pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake on Sat night was not deadly - YES! Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2) But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she, by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g) (aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points (gd&r) Fred 219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 |
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