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what food has female hormone and men should avoid? soy?
i used to drink a lot of soy milk or soy drinks, and somehow my chest
increased in size like a woman... not muscle, but fat deposit... what's more, i even eat some health products such as pollen, royal bee jelly, bird's nest soup, non-organic chicken (at restaurants), Swamp eel (a type of freshwater eel), Asiatic Grass Frog (or also called Chinese Brown Frog) from Northeast China (this is a common sweet soup at Asian dessert places). oh well, those are said to have quite a bit of female hormone in them... i.e. Estrogen, and they seem to really have strong effect on me. Soy drink has plant-type estrogen... and for chicken, it is said that the estrogen comes from the additives added to the feed that was fed to the chicken so that they grow big and ready for market in 7 weeks instead of 7 months in the old days... and other food's estrogen is natural in them. So for 3 weeks I haven't drunk soy drink and only ate semi-organic chicken grown in Hong Kong (I was in Hong Kong) and my chest in fact did get more back to normal. The store owner selling chicken in Hong Kong told me that people eat chicken with female hormone and that's why girls nowadays start to have periods and develop their body shape earlier in life than before. If you know any info related to this or have some experience about this and can share it, it would be greatly appreciated. |
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what food has female hormone and men should avoid? soy?
On Jun 2, 11:28*pm, liketofindoutwhy
wrote: i used to drink a lot of soy milk or soy drinks, and somehow my chest increased in size like a woman... not muscle, but fat deposit... what's more, i even eat some health products such as pollen, royal bee jelly, bird's nest soup, non-organic chicken (at restaurants), Swamp eel (a type of freshwater eel), Asiatic Grass Frog (or also called Chinese Brown Frog) from Northeast China (this is a common sweet soup at Asian dessert places). oh well, those are said to have quite a bit of female hormone in them... i.e. Estrogen, and they seem to really have strong effect on me. *Soy drink has plant-type estrogen... * and for chicken, it is said that the estrogen comes from the additives added to the feed that was fed to the chicken so that they grow big and ready for market in 7 weeks instead of 7 months in the old days... and other food's estrogen is natural in them. So for 3 weeks I haven't drunk soy drink and only ate semi-organic chicken grown in Hong Kong (I was in Hong Kong) and my chest in fact did get more back to normal. *The store owner selling chicken in Hong Kong told me that people eat chicken with female hormone and that's why girls nowadays start to have periods and develop their body shape earlier in life than before. If you know any info related to this or have some experience about this and can share it, it would be greatly appreciated. actually, i wonder if i drink non-organic milk, or take DanActive, which is a probiotics drink like Yogurt, that contains non-organic milk, will the hormone in them be also female hormone? |
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what food has female hormone and men should avoid? soy?
On Jun 2, 11:28*pm, liketofindoutwhy
wrote: i used to drink a lot of soy milk or soy drinks, and somehow my chest increased in size like a woman... not muscle, but fat deposit... what's more, i even eat some health products such as pollen, royal bee jelly, bird's nest soup, non-organic chicken (at restaurants), Swamp eel (a type of freshwater eel), Asiatic Grass Frog (or also called Chinese Brown Frog) from Northeast China (this is a common sweet soup at Asian dessert places). oh well, those are said to have quite a bit of female hormone in them... i.e. Estrogen, and they seem to really have strong effect on me. *Soy drink has plant-type estrogen... * and for chicken, it is said that the estrogen comes from the additives added to the feed that was fed to the chicken so that they grow big and ready for market in 7 weeks instead of 7 months in the old days... and other food's estrogen is natural in them. So for 3 weeks I haven't drunk soy drink and only ate semi-organic chicken grown in Hong Kong (I was in Hong Kong) and my chest in fact did get more back to normal. *The store owner selling chicken in Hong Kong told me that people eat chicken with female hormone and that's why girls nowadays start to have periods and develop their body shape earlier in life than before. If you know any info related to this or have some experience about this and can share it, it would be greatly appreciated. There is some evidence that estrogen-like compounds found in many products such as plastics and herbicides are responsible for the earlier maturation of females and lower sperm count and testicle size in men. I don't see why this should surprise anyone though. Surely people understand we cannot rape the environment and create an artificial world without some side effects. Just look at all the chemicals you come in contact with....thousands each day. Solvents, disinfectants, herbicides, insecticides, plastics, cosmetics, metals, growth hormones and antibiotics in beef, etc. That soy would have been treated with herbicide, fertilizer, and exposed to who knows what at the processor. There would be chemicals in the packaging as well. They probably cleaned the equipment that processed the soy beans with disinfectants and solvents. You remember the bottled water that was contaminated with solvent from the cleaning process. I don't have an answer but probably eating unprocessed, basic food...lower on the food chain would help. By the time you get to beef, there would be a concentration of more bad stuff, so it is probably better to eat organic vegetarian if you need to avoid as many chemicals as possible, but in the end, it is futile to even try and live in a modern world. I went to a dairy once where they were milking cows. They dip the teat cups in an antibiotic/iodine solution, then into a bucket of water to rinse it off (kinda), then the milking begins. They spray the cows udder to wash it off. There would be whatever disinfectant/antibiotic was in the teat wash in the milk, not to mention traces of manure, hair, etc....basically whatever is in the air in a barn. People are generally tough and seem to be able to adapt to contaminants, but it couldn't be good for us. dkw |
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what food has female hormone and men should avoid? soy?
On Jun 3, 7:47*am, " wrote:
There is some evidence that estrogen-like compounds found in many products such as plastics and herbicides are responsible for the earlier maturation of females and lower sperm count and testicle size in men. I don't see why this should surprise anyone though. Surely people understand we cannot rape the environment and create an artificial world without some side effects. Just look at all the chemicals you come in contact with....thousands each day. Solvents, disinfectants, herbicides, insecticides, plastics, cosmetics, metals, growth hormones and antibiotics in beef, etc. That soy would have been treated with herbicide, fertilizer, and exposed to who knows what at the processor. There would be chemicals in the packaging as well. They probably cleaned the equipment that processed the soy beans with disinfectants and solvents. You remember the bottled water that was contaminated with solvent from the cleaning process. I don't have an answer but probably eating unprocessed, basic food...lower on the food chain would help. By the time you get to beef, there would be a concentration of more bad stuff, so it is probably better to eat organic vegetarian if you need to avoid as many chemicals as possible, but in the end, it is futile to even try and live in a modern world. I went to a dairy once where they were milking cows. They dip the teat cups in an antibiotic/iodine solution, then into a bucket of water to rinse it off (kinda), then the milking begins. They spray the cows udder to wash it off. There would be whatever disinfectant/antibiotic was in the teat wash in the milk, not to mention traces of manure, hair, etc....basically whatever is in the air in a barn. People are generally tough and seem to be able to adapt to contaminants, but it couldn't be good for us. dkw so that means bottled water, like Crystal Geyser, because the plastic bottle loses a tiny bit of plastic into the water, then that will cause some estrogen compounds to be in the water? And if we drink 8 bottles a days... 365 days a year... some people use a paper cup with the refrigerator's water filter... but then the paper cup may have cleaner or solvent attached to it too? So the safest is to use a glass or ceramic cup and use the refrigerator water or even the faucet water? by the way, sometimes I put a case of bottled water in the car, and my car is under the sun for 10 hours a day .... so that can make the water really bad huh? |
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what food has female hormone and men should avoid? soy?
As a kid I use to eat the grain we fed to the chickens.... It was laying
mash.. Made the chickens lay more eggs... it also gave me a healthy pair of tits... not good on a 14 year old.. I had more 'uptairs' than my girl-friend... but it did bring up the question of my anatomy and she wanted to see.... and so I showed her... and she felt them .... and I made a mess in my undies... well... it happens to all kids, doesn't it.... and so my sex-life started... I'm away from the farm now... and my tits are back to normal... I think.. ha... I kinna miss them... |
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what food has female hormone and men should avoid? soy?
On Jun 3, 11:02*am, liketofindoutwhy
wrote: On Jun 3, 7:47*am, " wrote: There is some evidence that estrogen-like compounds found in many products such as plastics and herbicides are responsible for the earlier maturation of females and lower sperm count and testicle size in men. I don't see why this should surprise anyone though. Surely people understand we cannot rape the environment and create an artificial world without some side effects. Just look at all the chemicals you come in contact with....thousands each day. Solvents, disinfectants, herbicides, insecticides, plastics, cosmetics, metals, growth hormones and antibiotics in beef, etc. That soy would have been treated with herbicide, fertilizer, and exposed to who knows what at the processor. There would be chemicals in the packaging as well. They probably cleaned the equipment that processed the soy beans with disinfectants and solvents. You remember the bottled water that was contaminated with solvent from the cleaning process. I don't have an answer but probably eating unprocessed, basic food...lower on the food chain would help. By the time you get to beef, there would be a concentration of more bad stuff, so it is probably better to eat organic vegetarian if you need to avoid as many chemicals as possible, but in the end, it is futile to even try and live in a modern world. I went to a dairy once where they were milking cows. They dip the teat cups in an antibiotic/iodine solution, then into a bucket of water to rinse it off (kinda), then the milking begins. They spray the cows udder to wash it off. There would be whatever disinfectant/antibiotic was in the teat wash in the milk, not to mention traces of manure, hair, etc....basically whatever is in the air in a barn. People are generally tough and seem to be able to adapt to contaminants, but it couldn't be good for us. dkw so that means bottled water, like Crystal Geyser, because the plastic bottle loses a tiny bit of plastic into the water, then that will cause some estrogen compounds to be in the water? * And if we drink 8 bottles a days... 365 days a year... * some people use a paper cup with the refrigerator's water filter... but then the paper cup may have cleaner or solvent attached to it too? * So the safest is to use a glass or ceramic cup and use the refrigerator water or even the faucet water? by the way, sometimes I put a case of bottled water in the car, and my car is under the sun for 10 hours a day .... so that can make the water really bad huh?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes. Canada has banned plastic baby bottles, because babies as you would suspect are more susceptible to chemicals with their rapidly growing bodies. I would expect that we would get a higher dose of plastic from a heated bottle too. Water bottles are also made to biodegrade, so that pretty much guarantees there will be some dissolution of the plastic into the water inside. There is a plastic lining in canned foods as well from soup to nuts. The compounds are not estrogen, but similar enough, that some scientists think the body responds to them like it would to intrinsic or prescribed estrogen. Plastic bags, baby bottles, canned foods, dental sealants, herbicides. These chemicals are fairly unavoidable, but I wouldn't use plastic baby bottles since it is very simple to replace those with glass. Baby food also comes in glass, so that would be the solution there as well. Now the nipples are either latex...very bad since latex allergies are common and increase with exposure time, or vinyl, which is of course.....PLASTIC. Vinyl may not be as bad as some of the other plastics though, so I guess I would opt for that. Human breasts have no plastic so that would be the obvious best choice there. dkw |
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what food has female hormone and men should avoid? soy?
On Jun 8, 6:42*am, Marshall Price wrote:
wrote: On Jun 3, 11:02 am, liketofindoutwhy wrote: On Jun 3, 7:47 am, " wrote: There is some evidence that estrogen-like compounds found in many products such as plastics and herbicides are responsible for the earlier maturation of females and lower sperm count and testicle size in men. I don't see why this should surprise anyone though. Surely people understand we cannot rape the environment and create an artificial world without some side effects. Just look at all the chemicals you come in contact with....thousands each day. Solvents, disinfectants, herbicides, insecticides, plastics, cosmetics, metals, growth hormones and antibiotics in beef, etc. That soy would have been treated with herbicide, fertilizer, and exposed to who knows what at the processor. There would be chemicals in the packaging as well. They probably cleaned the equipment that processed the soy beans with disinfectants and solvents. You remember the bottled water that was contaminated with solvent from the cleaning process. I don't have an answer but probably eating unprocessed, basic food...lower on the food chain would help. By the time you get to beef, there would be a concentration of more bad stuff, so it is probably better to eat organic vegetarian if you need to avoid as many chemicals as possible, but in the end, it is futile to even try and live in a modern world. I went to a dairy once where they were milking cows. They dip the teat cups in an antibiotic/iodine solution, then into a bucket of water to rinse it off (kinda), then the milking begins. They spray the cows udder to wash it off. There would be whatever disinfectant/antibiotic was in the teat wash in the milk, not to mention traces of manure, hair, etc....basically whatever is in the air in a barn. People are generally tough and seem to be able to adapt to contaminants, but it couldn't be good for us. dkw so that means bottled water, like Crystal Geyser, because the plastic bottle loses a tiny bit of plastic into the water, then that will cause some estrogen compounds to be in the water? * And if we drink 8 bottles a days... 365 days a year... * some people use a paper cup with the refrigerator's water filter... but then the paper cup may have cleaner or solvent attached to it too? * So the safest is to use a glass or ceramic cup and use the refrigerator water or even the faucet water? by the way, sometimes I put a case of bottled water in the car, and my car is under the sun for 10 hours a day .... so that can make the water really bad huh?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes. Canada has banned plastic baby bottles, because babies as you would suspect are more susceptible to chemicals with their rapidly growing bodies. I would expect that we would get a higher dose of plastic from a heated bottle too. Water bottles are also made to biodegrade, so that pretty much guarantees there will be some dissolution of the plastic into the water inside. There is a plastic lining in canned foods as well from soup to nuts. The compounds are not estrogen, but similar enough, that some scientists think the body responds to them like it would to intrinsic or prescribed estrogen. Plastic bags, baby bottles, canned foods, dental sealants, herbicides. These chemicals are fairly unavoidable, but I wouldn't use plastic baby bottles since it is very simple to replace those with glass. Baby food also comes in glass, so that would be the solution there as well. Now the nipples are either latex...very bad since latex allergies are common and increase with exposure time, or vinyl, which is of course.....PLASTIC. Vinyl may not be as bad as some of the other plastics though, so I guess I would opt for that. Human breasts have no plastic so that would be the obvious best choice there. dkw * *You might be thinking of bisphenol A, which is used to make polycarbonates. *There was a segment on "60 Minutes" recently about the FDA's delay (of many years' duration!) in looking into the matter. *I believe they still haven't scheduled any studies on it. * *They did say what effects it's suspected of causing, but now I forget what they were. *(I think they said it might accelerate sexual development in girls around puberty and delay testicular development in boys.) -- Marshall Price of Miami Known to Yahoo as d021317c- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "They did say what effects it's suspected of causing, but now I forget what they were." Was it memory loss? LOL |
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what food has female hormone and men should avoid? soy?
On Jun 3, 11:12*am, (Arlan K) wrote:
As a kid I use to eat the grain we fed to the chickens.... It was laying mash.. Made the chickens lay more eggs... how come you were eating chicken feed? is it just because of being naughty? does it actually taste good and so you keep on eating it? (doesn't it need to be cooked?) is the feed called laying mash? |
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what food has female hormone and men should avoid? soy?
On Jun 3, 1:59*pm, " wrote:
Yes. Canada has banned plastic baby bottles, because babies as you would suspect are more susceptible to chemicals with their rapidly growing bodies. so my brother-in-law who is in the pharmacy industry knows about it, and he said the effect of plastic bottle water is really little on grown up people. Like we have to drink a bath tub worth of water in order to feel the effect of it. i wonder... maybe he means per day... |
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