If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Alarming Epidemic of Obesity
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:24 +1000, Who_me?
wrote: On 7/10/2011 5:41 AM, Dogman wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:42:59 +1000, wrote: [...] He loathes America and everything we stand for. We? You are now the official US spokesperson? Yeah, we. I represent the majority of Americans. Did your alarm clock fail to go off? You appear to be dreaming. Snip nonsense. Yeah, you have to "snip the nonsense" because you have nothing to refute it. We just made the mistake of trying to save South Vietnam from communist despots, engaging in a war that could not be won for a variety of reasons. No you didn't. Yes, we did. That's why I was there. I was there, but somehow I doubt that you were. You would have more awareness if you had been. I dropped out of college to serve my country. I was among the first Marines (3rd MEB)to land in Da Nang. And no one as clueless as you seem to be about the Vietnam War ever served in-country. You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country. The US Government made a point of publicising, heavily and widely publicising the reason why they invaded Vietnam. It wasn't to "save" South Vietnam. Do some research. Google the "Domino Theory". For someone with a supposedly eidetic memory and member of Mensa, you're an awfully stupid person. Why? What I said is absolutely valid. What you said is totally wrong. We went to Vietnam to "save" the South from being overrun with commie pinkos like you. In case you forgot (more likely, you never knew), the North (commies) was attacking the South. With the help of China. If you know anything at all about the Domino Theory, it was that once communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia, other countries would fall like "dominoes," i.e., other countries would be pressed into communism. That's what we were fighting against. The spread of communism. You can look it up. Hang about, a post or so back you were claiming that America attacked North Vietnam in order to save South Vietnam. Once I mention the Domino theory you change your tune and ask me if "I" know anything about it. You're losing it dim bulb. You don't even know who you're responding to anymore, if you ever did. Trader said that, and he was right. We attacked the North who were (at the time) in the South, to SAVE the South from being overrun. To SAVE them from communism. Thus, the Domino Theory. "The domino theory was used by successive United States administrations during the Cold War to clarify the need for American intervention around the world." It was a pretty good theory at the time. See: South Korea. It was rubbish then and now. The US has no right to decide what type of Government other countries have. And we didn't. The South didn't want to become communist. They were (and still are) ardent capitalists. And we supported their desire to remain capitalists. You know who the Vietnamese hate the most today? Yes, the French, from that ****ty little country of France, for trying to colonialize them. I've been back to Vietnam, and almost without exception, the folks in the south still like Americans. It is nice to see that you now accept that America is a war-mongering nation If you attack our friends, if you attempt to overthrow our friends, if you attempt to spread communism, you're going to have to deal with us. That's not "war-mongoring." That's DEFENDING FREEDOM. - but you can stop trying to justify its actions. There is no justification. They made no political difference, they just killed a lot of people. We killed a lot of commies. Which is always a "good thing." Sometimes, as in the case of South Korea, we win and the results have been freedom, peace and prosperity for millions. Look at North Korea, where millions are starving, subjugated, compared to Soth Korea which has a booming economy and a high standard of living. Sometimes it doesn't work. Thing is, guys like you always go to the times it doesn't and try to use that against the USA. How about when we saved your asses in WWII? Was that just another unwarranted war? You won the 2nd World War? Dream on. The US was a part of it, along with all the allied countries. Yes, and without the U.S., you'd be speaking German today. Possibly, but that does not excuse all the instances when America, (just like Germany) has attacked other countries simply because they don't agree with their politics or religion etc. We're against communism. If you try to spread communism by force, you're going to have to deal with us. Again, it's called DEFENDING FREEDOM. And that's a good thing, unless you're a freakin' commie. In that instance the US was attacked - Pearl Harbour. It is one case where it was justified, but this thread is about the times where America has attacked another country without military provocation. Iraq didn't attack the US, and it had no WMDs and the US lost that one. We defeated Saddam's regime in three freakin' weeks! No you didn't, you simply change the type of warfare to one you couldn't win. We totally destroyed the regime in 3 weeks! 3 WEEKS! Then we got sidetracked into "nation building." That was a mistake, but it was done with the best of intentions. And then we made the mistake of playing footsie with them, instead of wiping them out. So genocide was the answer. Careful, your jingoism is sowing. What genocide??? They were attacking our troops! With the help of the freakin' Iranians! Iraq conducted an unprovoked invasion of Kuwait. As part of their surrender in that war, Iraq agreed to disclose fully their WMD programs, account for all weapons, and give full access to the UN weapons inspectors. In actuality they never complied with the weapons inspections, nor did they fully account for their WMDs. They didn't HAVE any you fool. US, British, Israeli and Russian intelligence all believed he had active WMD programs. Absolute crap. The US Government claimed that it had evidence - but lied. Read this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp Why? It doesn't support your stance, it supports mine. It supports mine, because it showed how widely the intelligence was known. Again, even your ****ty little country said that Saddam had anthrax stockpiles ("The French government also believed that Saddam had stockpiles of anthrax and botulism toxin, and the ability to produce VX" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War). Your ****ty little country also helped Saddam's henchmen leave Iraq for Europe (On Tuesday, the Washington Times quoted U.S. officials as saying that France had helped Saddam aides escape Syria. The newspaper said France supplied passports to senior Iraqi officials to allow them to travel to Europe. http://archive.frontpagemag.com/read...px?ARTID=18317) What a ****ty little country France is. spit Payback's gonna be a bitch. And Trader is correct: the intelligence agencies of the U.S., British, Israeli, plus those of Saudi Arabia and even your ****ty little country of France (who said he had anthrax stockpiles, you can look it up), and others, all agreed that he had WMDs. And the Wikileaks dump proved that he actually had them. Afghanistan didn't attack the US and the US is losing that one. Actually, they most certainly did. They attacked the USA by openly supporting Al-Qaeda and allowing them to have terrorist training camps in Afghanistan. That is not an attack. Borrow a dictionary. The Afghan government had in effect been taken over by the Taliban, and the Taliban worked with Al Qaeda to plan the ATTACK on the World Trade Center, etc. And one doesn't need a dictionary to understand that, just a brain. In that case you definitely need a dictionary. See? Again, you can't refute the facts, so you just ignore them. [...] None of the countries that America has invaded has done do. Do you know no history at all? He obviously has a good grasp of history, unlike you. That is funny. I quote accurate history, he makes nonsense claims. Every single claim I've made is backed up by irrefutable sources. Comic books are not irrefutable. You're pathetic. As with typical lefties, facts mean absolutely nothing to you. You spend all your energy trying to revise history, not learning from it. Yes. If they can't stand up for themselves (the people who just want to be left alone to live their lives in peace) by now, they never will. So it's time to come home. We've killed most of the bad guys already, and we can always go back. The US has killed tens of thousands of innocent people, women and children, aged people among them. They have killed very few "bad guys" by comparison. Go ask the Iraqi people if they are happy to be free now and if it was worth it. They are suing the US Government for billions. Aren't you aware of that? The are NOT happy with the rape of their country by the US. No, the terrorists aren't very happy with us, but the people of Iraq are. Bull****. I lived there before the invasion and I went back last year. America is despised and hated by everyone who I spoke to. The only people who someone like you would know are Saddam loyalists, and it figures that you both would hate us. Before the invasion Baghdad was a safe and pleasant city Unbelievable! You sound like a Nazi trying to excuse Nazism (Hey, Berlin was the cleanest city in Europe!), or like a Facsist trying to excuse Fascism (Hey, the trains ran on time!). Unfortuantely, this didn't include the Jews and others who were against tthe totalitarian regimes. Baghdad was safe for Saddaam loyalists. Period. Everyone else was subject to incarceration, rape, torture, and murder. He gassed his own people in the North, and he murdered the Marsh Arabs in the south, and destroyed their villages. It figures, that someone from your ****ty little country would find this excusable. We've taken out the regime that was responsible for raping and murdering its own citizens. Now it's up to them. No, what you did was open the door to the Islamic radicals. They are worse than Saddam. It's pretty damn near impossible to be worse that Saddam. [...] Your own congress a few years ago was complaining about the cost, the fact that the US was firing nearly 240,000 round for every hit on an enemy combatant. Spray and pray your troops call it. Guess how many rounds, the British, Australians, even the Japanese fired for each hit? Google for it if you feel like cringing in embarrassment. That's bull caca. You're confusing Vietnam with Iraq, but the count was high in WWII. too. But what you don't mention is that this includes all the TRAINING rounds fired. No you dimwit, it was five or six years ago and related to expenditure in Iraq. Post proof or retract! You are the embarrassment. Oh no I'm not. I don't have a government that I like, but also I don't have a government that I am ashamed of. I also don't have to feel embarrassed by my country's military incompetence. Incompetence, huh? I wonder what Saddam and Osama bin Laden would say about that? Well as it took a decade to get bin Laden, he would probably say "Thank God the Americans are so incompetent." It took 10 years, but he's dead, isn't he? And so are almost all of his leutenants and underlings. Al Qaeda is a shell of its former self. I wonder what the Iraqi military would say about that? I don't know, whenever you mention American Military they won't stop laughing for long enough to say anything. You mean the few who survived? France? spit -- Dogman |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Alarming Epidemic of Obesity
On 8/10/2011 5:39 AM, Dogman wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:24 +1000, wrote: On 7/10/2011 5:41 AM, Dogman wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:42:59 +1000, wrote: [...] He loathes America and everything we stand for. We? You are now the official US spokesperson? Yeah, we. I represent the majority of Americans. Did your alarm clock fail to go off? You appear to be dreaming. Snip nonsense. Yeah, you have to "snip the nonsense" because you have nothing to refute it. We just made the mistake of trying to save South Vietnam from communist despots, engaging in a war that could not be won for a variety of reasons. No you didn't. Yes, we did. That's why I was there. I was there, but somehow I doubt that you were. You would have more awareness if you had been. I dropped out of college to serve my country. I was among the first Marines (3rd MEB)to land in Da Nang. And no one as clueless as you seem to be about the Vietnam War ever served in-country. I don't believe you. You would have more political awareness about the era if that was so. You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country. You can't get anything right - can you? Firstly, I am from a country similar in size to the US - it isn't little and it certainly isn't ****ty. We have a much higher standard of living than the US. Secondly, your pathetic lack of real knowledge is almost embarrassing. You parrot US propaganda, your concept of history seems to be based on US press release and jingoistic American movies, comic books, or TV shows. The US Government made a point of publicising, heavily and widely publicising the reason why they invaded Vietnam. It wasn't to "save" South Vietnam. Do some research. Google the "Domino Theory". For someone with a supposedly eidetic memory and member of Mensa, you're an awfully stupid person. Why? What I said is absolutely valid. What you said is totally wrong. We went to Vietnam to "save" the South from being overrun with commie pinkos like you. Then why did your own government claim to have entirely different reasons? The US did a lot of international bull****ting at the start of the conflict - much like the bull**** about WMDs more recently. They have now lost all international trust. Let me know if ever you have something that can be supported with documented evidence that doesn't originate in some US made war movie or similar. That probably won't happen, as I doubt that you can tell the difference. In case you forgot (more likely, you never knew), the North (commies) was attacking the South. With the help of China. So what? It wasn't anything to do with the US, it had been going on for more than a century and all the US did is cost lives - they won NOTHING. If you know anything at all about the Domino Theory, it was that once communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia, other countries would fall like "dominoes," i.e., other countries would be pressed into communism. That's what we were fighting against. The spread of communism. You can look it up. Hang about, a post or so back you were claiming that America attacked North Vietnam in order to save South Vietnam. Once I mention the Domino theory you change your tune and ask me if "I" know anything about it. You're losing it dim bulb. You don't even know who you're responding to anymore, if you ever did. Trader said that, and he was right. We attacked the North who were (at the time) in the South, to SAVE the South from being overrun. To SAVE them from communism. Thus, the Domino Theory. Bull****. Why did your president say - on television, at the onset of the Vietnam conflict - in a world wide address, that they were fighting world communism? Not Vietnamese communism. In other words, America decided that it didn't like a valid political system and decided to attack countries that supported it? Only countries that they thought - mistakenly - that they could beat. They didn't attack Russia as they knew that in that case they would definitely get their asses kicked. "The domino theory was used by successive United States administrations during the Cold War to clarify the need for American intervention around the world." It was a pretty good theory at the time. See: South Korea. It was rubbish then and now. The US has no right to decide what type of Government other countries have. And we didn't. The South didn't want to become communist. They were (and still are) ardent capitalists. And we supported their desire to remain capitalists. Not altruistically, America was using them for America's own political agenda. You know who the Vietnamese hate the most today? Yes, the French, from that ****ty little country of France, for trying to colonialize them. Why do so many speak French? The French are still there - not the military, but the French colonialists. After three hundred years they are a part of the country. I've been back to Vietnam, and almost without exception, the folks in the south still like Americans. More nonsense. They tolerate tourists but any families who lost relatives, and that is most - despise the US. It is nice to see that you now accept that America is a war-mongering nation If you attack our friends, if you attempt to overthrow our friends, if you attempt to spread communism, you're going to have to deal with us. America has no friends. My country once supported America, we fought alongside it, but it would bring down our Government if they were to try to support America again. The people have had enough of the "US BS" and bullying Big Brother politics. That's not "war-mongoring." That's DEFENDING FREEDOM. That is parroting US propaganda. - but you can stop trying to justify its actions. There is no justification. They made no political difference, they just killed a lot of people. We killed a lot of commies. Which is always a "good thing." Why? Communism, even if you don't agree with it - and I don't - is still a valid political system. What gives a country the right to kill people who endorse a political system that they disprove of, and without direct provocation. You clearly are as bad as those in the Bush regime. You support killing people just because you don't like something about them. Those who attacked the World Trade Centre did the same, but they had a lot of provocation. What they did was wrong, very wrong, but they were following a precedent set by US foreign policy over several decades. Why is what they did so different to what the US has done for decades? Attack and kill people who follow an ideology that they don't agree with? if you could attack and kill those in the US who follow a political party that you don't agree with - would you do it? They say that the Tea Party is stockpiling arms. Is this where the next conflict will be - domestic? You are a politically and historically naive puppet. You have no empathy for the millions who have been killed or harmed by US foreign policy, and your concept of history is based on propaganda. You are an unpleasant, slow witted, barely literate fool. At least your current president - who unlike you has access to real facts and real history - has made attempts to apologise for America's actions over the past decades. Why is that if these things didn't (as you claim) happen? Was he bored and had nothing better to do? Let's leave it at that, no point in arguing with a xenophobic closed minded bigot. Your own President disagrees with you, he knows exactly what America has done, he understands the damage it has caused to millions, and he takes every opportunity to apologise. It won't change International opinion of the US overnight, but it is a start, a step toward conciliation. I am back at work from tomorrow, my body cast is off, my final stitches out and I have already started physiotherapy. Although arguing with fools helped pass the time whilst recuperating, it isn't productive. America is circling the drain, it can't get its political act together, it is bankrupt, and it has no friends. It will be sad to watch, as although I don't like US governments, I do like US people, but it is going to follow in the footsteps of the Soviet Union and collapse. China, the world's next political and economical super-power holds its mortgage, it cannot compete in a world market trade-wise as it cannot manufacture anything at a cost that is competitive. It cannot survive on export - it has nothing significant of value to export. The future looks grim even to the optimists. I am glad that I don't live there. Like all empires before it, America has passed its use by date and the marks left on history are not of greatness, they are of greed, bullying and pettiness. At least the Romans and the British left an impression on history that they could be proud of, unlike the US. I wonder what the era of Chinese domination will be like? Good luck finding, let alone following - the American dream |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Alarming Epidemic of Obesity
On Oct 8, 12:18*am, Who_me? wrote:
On 8/10/2011 5:39 AM, Dogman wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:24 +1000, wrote: On 7/10/2011 5:41 AM, Dogman wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:42:59 +1000, wrote: [...] He loathes America and everything we stand for. We? You are now the official US spokesperson? Yeah, we. *I represent the majority of Americans. Did your alarm clock fail to go off? You appear to be dreaming. Snip nonsense. Yeah, you have to "snip the nonsense" because you have nothing to refute it. We just made the mistake of trying to save South Vietnam from communist despots, engaging in a war that could not be won for a variety of reasons. No you didn't. Yes, we did. That's why I was there. I was there, but somehow I doubt that you were. You would have more awareness if you had been. I dropped out of college to serve my country. *I was among the first Marines (3rd MEB)to land in Da Nang. And no one as clueless as you seem to be about the Vietnam War ever served in-country. I don't believe you. You would have more political awareness about the era if that was so. I believe him. He sounds like a true American to me. You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country. You can't get anything right - can you? Firstly, I am from a country similar in size to the US - it isn't little and it certainly isn't ****ty. The above is the clearest example yet of how stupid you are. France is about twice the size of Colorado. I bet you lie about the size of your penis too. We have a much higher standard of living than the US. Wrong again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index The USA is ranked 4th in the world. France is 14. Ahead of France are Ireland, Canada, Sweden, Germany, Japan, Switzerland, and oh, I love this one: South Korea. You know, that little country where according to you the USA waged a needless war. Had we not defended them from the commies, they would be living like the hell hole of North Korea now. The US Government made a point of publicising, heavily and widely publicising the reason why they invaded Vietnam. It wasn't to "save" South Vietnam. *Do some research. Google the "Domino Theory". For someone with a supposedly eidetic memory and member of Mensa, you're an awfully stupid person. Why? What I said is absolutely valid. What you said is totally wrong. We went to Vietnam to "save" the South from being overrun with commie pinkos like you. Then why did your own government claim to have entirely different reasons? The US did a lot of international bull****ting at the start of the conflict - much like the bull**** about WMDs more recently. They have now lost all international trust. That trust will come back quickly next time some **** ant country that you choose to ignore invades you again. Let me know if ever you have something that can be supported with documented evidence that doesn't originate in some US made war movie or similar. That probably won't happen, as I doubt that you can tell the difference. It just did happen with the standard of living data above, fool. In case you forgot (more likely, you never knew), the North (commies) was attacking the South. With the help of China. So what? It wasn't anything to do with the US, it had been going on for more than a century and all the US did is cost lives - they won NOTHING. Following that logic, when Germany attacked France, it was nothing to do with the USA either. We could have just said, not our problem. But we didn't do that, did we? Actually, we focused the initial war effort MORE on Europe. If you know anything at all about the Domino Theory, it was that once communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia, other countries would fall like "dominoes," i.e., other countries would be pressed into communism. That's what we were fighting against. The spread of communism. You can look it up. Hang about, a post or so back you were claiming that America attacked North Vietnam in order to save South Vietnam. Once I mention the Domino theory you change your tune and ask me if "I" know anything about it. You're losing it dim bulb. You don't even know who you're responding to anymore, if you ever did. Trader said that, and he was right. We attacked the North who were (at the time) in the South, to SAVE the South from being overrun. *To SAVE * them from communism. Thus, the Domino Theory. Bull****. Why did your president say - on television, at the onset of the Vietnam conflict - in a world wide address, that they were fighting world communism? Not Vietnamese communism. In other words, America decided that it didn't like a valid political system and decided to attack countries that supported it? A valid political system. So, depite claiming to be right wing, you are a card carrying commie, aren't you? That political system enslaved people with no basic human rights. Stalin committed genocide under that "valid" govt system, killing 20 mil people. How many millions are dying today in North Korea under that system? What happened to the students in China who dared to question their govt? Only a fool would think communism is a vaild govt system. It only works by taking away freedom by force. Only countries that they thought - mistakenly - that they could beat. They didn't attack Russia as they knew that in that case they would definitely get their asses kicked. Oh, please. At the end of WWII, the USA had the atomic bomb and Russia didn't. If we were the war mongering nation you believe us to be, we could have creamed them. And maybe we should have creamed them enough to kick their asses out of Eastern Europe instead of letting all those countries become serf states of Russia. "The domino theory was used by successive United States administrations during the Cold War to clarify the need for American intervention around the world." It was a pretty good theory at the time. *See: South Korea. It was rubbish then and now. The US has no right to decide what type of Government other countries have. We never decided what govt any country should have. We did help countries defend themselves against COMMUNIST AGRESSION. Like when North Korea attacked South Korea. Or North Vietnam invaded South Vietnam. Or when we put our asses on the line risking nuclear war to keep the Russian out of West Germany and Taiwan. And we didn't. *The South didn't want to become communist. *They were (and still are) ardent capitalists. *And we supported their desire to remain capitalists. Not altruistically, America was using them for America's own political agenda. Yeah, just like we used the French when we saved you from the Germans who through your own stupidity and weakness, you were incapable of handling yourself. You know who the Vietnamese hate the most today? Yes, the French, from that ****ty little country of France, for trying to colonialize them. Why do so many speak French? The French are still there - not the military, but the French colonialists. After three hundred years they are a part of the country. I've been back to Vietnam, and almost without exception, the folks in the south still like Americans. More nonsense. They tolerate tourists but any families who lost relatives, and that is most - despise the US. Sure they do. That's why when your commie friends from the North finally overran the South, you saw boatloads of people, hundreds of thousands, fleeing on anything that would float to escape the country. And where did most of them go? To France? No, they came here, to the land of the free, USA. It is nice to see that you now accept that America is a war-mongering nation If you attack our friends, if you attempt to overthrow our friends, if you attempt to spread communism, you're going to have to deal with us. America has no friends. My country once supported America, we fought alongside it, but it would bring down our Government if they were to try to support America again. The people have had enough of the "US BS" and bullying Big Brother politics. Yes, like so many other countries, you'll be our friend again when you need us. - but you can stop trying to justify its actions. There is no justification. They made no political difference, they just killed a lot of people. We killed a lot of commies. Which is always a "good thing." Why? Communism, even if you don't agree with it - and I don't - is still a valid political system. The Nazi party was a vaild political system too. How did that work out for you French? What gives a country the right to kill people who endorse a political system that they disprove of, and without direct provocation. You clearly are as bad as those in the Bush regime. You support killing people just because you don't like something about them. Those who attacked the World Trade Centre did the same, but they had a lot of provocation. Yeah, they sure did. We won't convert to their radical Muslim religion. That's provocation for you. As I recall Al-Qaeda has killed French citizens and has France on it's target list too. Guess you all provoked them too. What they did was wrong, very wrong, but they were following a precedent set by US foreign policy over several decades. An outrageous lie. Why is what they did so different to what the US has done for decades? That about sums up what a fool you are. Attack and kill people who follow an ideology that they don't agree with? We have never attacked and killed people who follow an ideology we did not agree with. South Vietnam was INVADED. South Korea was INVADED. France was INVADED. Get it now? You are a politically and historically naive puppet. You're what Stalin would call a useful idiot. You have no empathy for the millions who have been killed or harmed by US foreign policy, and your concept of history is based on propaganda. You have no appreciation for all the people living in the world today that are free because of the sacrifices this country has made. And that includes you, Frenchy. You are an unpleasant, slow witted, barely literate fool. At least your current president - who unlike you has access to real facts and real history - has made attempts to apologise for America's actions over the past decades. Why is that if these things didn't (as you claim) happen? Was he bored and had nothing better to do? No, he's just another leftist, who finds fault with most things American, unless it's run by the govt.. His election was clearly a mistake, the polls show he is out of touch with mainstream America and he won't be re-elected. Let's leave it at that, no point in arguing with a xenophobic closed minded bigot. Yes, you're speaking about yourself, right? Your own President disagrees with you, he knows exactly what America has done, he understands the damage it has caused to millions, and he takes every opportunity to apologise. It won't change International opinion of the US overnight, but it is a start, a step toward conciliation. I couldn't care less about what someone in France thinks about the USA. I am back at work from tomorrow, my body cast is off, my final stitches out and I have already started physiotherapy. Was it brain surgery? Although arguing with fools helped pass the time whilst recuperating, it isn't productive. America is circling the drain, it can't get its political act together, it is bankrupt, and it has no friends. It will be sad to watch, as although I don't like US governments, I do like US people, Sure you do. Those people elected those govts. The majority stand behind this country and the good it has done in the world. And we despise American haters like you. but it is going to follow in the footsteps of the Soviet Union and collapse. China, the world's next political and economical super-power holds its mortgage, it cannot compete in a world market trade-wise as it cannot manufacture anything at a cost that is competitive. Then how is it that the USA is still the largest manufacturer in the world? Where exactly are the French Intels and Microsofts? It cannot survive on export - it has nothing significant of value to export. The future looks grim even to the optimists. I am glad that I don't live there. We are glad too. |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Alarming Epidemic of Obesity
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:18:02 +1000, Who_me?
wrote: [...] You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country. You can't get anything right - can you? Firstly, I am from a country similar in size to the US - it isn't little and it certainly isn't ****ty. We have a much higher standard of living than the US. Secondly, your pathetic lack of real knowledge is almost embarrassing. You parrot US propaganda, your concept of history seems to be based on US press release and jingoistic American movies, comic books, or TV shows. Yeah, I love those imaginary countries, too. Your country is as imaginary as your eidetic memory and your membership in Mensa. [...] What you said is totally wrong. We went to Vietnam to "save" the South from being overrun with commie pinkos like you. Then why did your own government claim to have entirely different reasons? The US did a lot of international bull****ting at the start of the conflict - much like the bull**** about WMDs more recently. They have now lost all international trust. Look up the term "strawman argument"; it's the only manner of argument you excel at. In case you forgot (more likely, you never knew), the North (commies) was attacking the South. With the help of China. So what? It wasn't anything to do with the US, it had been going on for more than a century and all the US did is cost lives - they won NOTHING. No, we didn't "win" anything. That time. But the South Koreans won. That's a .500 batting average. If you know anything at all about the Domino Theory, it was that once communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia, other countries would fall like "dominoes," i.e., other countries would be pressed into communism. That's what we were fighting against. The spread of communism. You can look it up. Hang about, a post or so back you were claiming that America attacked North Vietnam in order to save South Vietnam. Once I mention the Domino theory you change your tune and ask me if "I" know anything about it. You're losing it dim bulb. You don't even know who you're responding to anymore, if you ever did. Trader said that, and he was right. We attacked the North who were (at the time) in the South, to SAVE the South from being overrun. To SAVE them from communism. Thus, the Domino Theory. Bull****. Why did your president say - on television, at the onset of the Vietnam conflict - in a world wide address, that they were fighting world communism? Not Vietnamese communism. Are you really this dense? You are to Mensa what Roseanne Barr is to Weight Watchers. We fight world communist expansion plans by fighting North Vietnamese aggression in the South. Got it? One "domino" at a time. You need to brush up on your Domino Theory, ya freakin' maroon. [...] And we didn't. The South didn't want to become communist. They were (and still are) ardent capitalists. And we supported their desire to remain capitalists. Not altruistically, America was using them for America's own political agenda. What political agenda? You know who the Vietnamese hate the most today? Yes, the French, from that ****ty little country of France, for trying to colonialize them. Why do so many speak French? The same reason French Canadians speak French. Because they're too stupid to learn English. I've been back to Vietnam, and almost without exception, the folks in the south still like Americans. More nonsense. They tolerate tourists but any families who lost relatives, and that is most - despise the US. I couldn't have been welcomed more warmly by the vast majority of Vietnamese people I met (and I met thousands), and they knew my of background. Sure, some weren't so warm; they were very French-like. I.e., they were assholes. It is nice to see that you now accept that America is a war-mongering nation If you attack our friends, if you attempt to overthrow our friends, if you attempt to spread communism, you're going to have to deal with us. America has no friends. Sure we do. When the **** hits the fan (as it will again), we're the first country that others turn to. Even that ****ty little country France, and GB, couldn't support the Libyan rebels without our help. And Americans understand that. The less "friends" we officially have, the less often we're drawn into the petty grievances of Europeans. And that's a good thing. That's not "war-mongoring." That's DEFENDING FREEDOM. That is parroting US propaganda. It's called telling the truth. Not revising history to suit your political agenda. - but you can stop trying to justify its actions. There is no justification. They made no political difference, they just killed a lot of people. We killed a lot of commies. Which is always a "good thing." Why? Because communism is even worse than nazism. It needs to be fought/contained whenever possible. Communism has killed more human beings than any other "ism." You clearly are as bad as those in the Bush regime. You support killing people just because you don't like something about them. I support killing people who kill their own people, who make slaves of them, you send them to gulags, who starve them to death, etc. Yessirree Bob. Why is what they did so different to what the US has done for decades? Attack and kill people who follow an ideology that they don't agree with? if you could attack and kill those in the US who follow a political party that you don't agree with - would you do it? They say that the Tea Party is stockpiling arms. Is this where the next conflict will be - domestic? Who says that? The Nation magazine? Please. The Tea Party stands for Taxed Enough Already, got it? They are mostly older folks who are tired of having their tax dollars wasted. Period. The lefty media enjoys making them out to be the boogeyman, because it suits their political agenda. I, on the other hand, am heavily armed, have always been heavily armed, and will always be heavily armed. See: Second Amendment You are an unpleasant, slow witted, barely literate fool. And you are a foul, smelly, lying, imbecilic asshole from a ****ty little country. Let's leave it at that, no point in arguing with a xenophobic closed minded bigot. Your own President disagrees with you, Thank you, Lord! Thank you, Lord! If that empty-suit of a president ever agreed with my, I'd seriously reconsider my position! He's a radical left winger, and I despise him with every fiber of my being. The only way I could despise him more would be to find out that he was French. I am back at work from tomorrow, my body cast is off, Had your ass kicked, did you? I am glad that I don't live there. We're pretty happy about that too! Like all empires before it, America has passed its use by date We've never been an empire; we've never longed to be one. Unlike that ****ty little country of yours. And we may have our problems at the moment, but they aren't problems that every other country isn't having too, including China. I wonder what the era of Chinese domination will be like? You'll never know, because it will never happen. Their success is a double-edged sword. Making all those people happy and content is easier said than done. When they actually INVENT something besides Chow Mein, then I'll start worrying. Bub bye, you ****ty little man. -- Dogman |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Alarming Epidemic of Obesity
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 01:13:30 +1000, Who_me?
wrote: [...] I am half Texan, half Australian/British - my mother and father met in England and migrated to Australia. I just happen to be able to speak French, thanks to one very old French grandmother (who currently lives in New Orleans with my cousin, her grand-daughter.) Then according to the "one drop" rule, that still makes you a ****ty little Frenchman! Heh. I live in Australia, which is certainly not a little country and at the moment has a much higher standard of living than the US. I served in the Australian Military - Navy, not Army - and spent nearly three years in and out of Vietnam. I am British and Australian educated, and have lived in Canada, Africa - North & South, as well as the Middle East and Northern Europe. I have been stationed in those places. I have a pretty damn good idea of how the world regards the US. No, you don't. You only have a very good idea of how other commie pinkos feel about the U.S., because if you talked this way to normal people, you'd spend your entire life in a full body cast. And in case you've forgotten (or you never knew), over 60,000 Australians fought in Vietnam, alongside Americans. Yes, I made friends with many of them, and they loved Americans. And boy could they drink! We loved the Aussies, too. Australians have fought alongside Americans in many, many wars and conflicts. I also visited Australia during the America's Cup in Perth, and every single Australian I met along the way loved Americans. Many of them wanted to move here. But then, they were normal Australians, not the commie pinko variety you represent. So I'm not going to hold it against the rest of Australia, just because you happen to be Australian. We have no shortage of commie pinko loons ourselves, so.... PS: Without America, and the U.S. Marines, you might be speaking Japanese today. You were in no position to defend Australia from the Japs while your boys were off defending Britain in WWII. So we defended your country for you. Your own PM begged us to help prevent a Japanese invasion of Australia, and we did just that. You can look it up. -- Dogman |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Alarming Epidemic of Obesity
Heh Dogman, here's a big issue for the troll we
overlooked. He claims it's the USA that goes around the world attacking countries that did not attack us, right? Well, what exactly are his bleoved and peaceful French doing in Libya? They were the prime instigator to get foreign intervention in Libya this very year. And French aircraft were bombing Libya and killing Libyans. Yet, Libya had not attacked France. What a hypocrite. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Alarming Epidemic of Obesity
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:58:15 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: Heh Dogman, here's a big issue for the troll we overlooked. He claims it's the USA that goes around the world attacking countries that did not attack us, right? Well, what exactly are his bleoved and peaceful French doing in Libya? They were the prime instigator to get foreign intervention in Libya this very year. And French aircraft were bombing Libya and killing Libyans. Yet, Libya had not attacked France. What a hypocrite. You bet, Trader. And it's all about Libyan OIL (France buys 1/3 of Libya's oil). France otherwise couldn't care less about the Libyan people. France? spit -- Dogman |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Alarming Epidemic of Obesity
This is an "Off-Topic" post. It has zip to do with low carbing. Take it to a different venue. In article , " wrote: On Oct 8, 12:18*am, Who_me? wrote: On 8/10/2011 5:39 AM, Dogman wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:22:24 +1000, wrote: On 7/10/2011 5:41 AM, Dogman wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:42:59 +1000, wrote: [...] He loathes America and everything we stand for. We? You are now the official US spokesperson? Yeah, we. *I represent the majority of Americans. Did your alarm clock fail to go off? You appear to be dreaming. Snip nonsense. Yeah, you have to "snip the nonsense" because you have nothing to refute it. We just made the mistake of trying to save South Vietnam from communist despots, engaging in a war that could not be won for a variety of reasons. No you didn't. Yes, we did. That's why I was there. I was there, but somehow I doubt that you were. You would have more awareness if you had been. I dropped out of college to serve my country. *I was among the first Marines (3rd MEB)to land in Da Nang. And no one as clueless as you seem to be about the Vietnam War ever served in-country. I don't believe you. You would have more political awareness about the era if that was so. I believe him. He sounds like a true American to me. You're a ****ty little liar, from a ****ty little country. You can't get anything right - can you? Firstly, I am from a country similar in size to the US - it isn't little and it certainly isn't ****ty. The above is the clearest example yet of how stupid you are. France is about twice the size of Colorado. I bet you lie about the size of your penis too. We have a much higher standard of living than the US. Wrong again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index The USA is ranked 4th in the world. France is 14. Ahead of France are Ireland, Canada, Sweden, Germany, Japan, Switzerland, and oh, I love this one: South Korea. You know, that little country where according to you the USA waged a needless war. Had we not defended them from the commies, they would be living like the hell hole of North Korea now. The US Government made a point of publicising, heavily and widely publicising the reason why they invaded Vietnam. It wasn't to "save" South Vietnam. *Do some research. Google the "Domino Theory". For someone with a supposedly eidetic memory and member of Mensa, you're an awfully stupid person. Why? What I said is absolutely valid. What you said is totally wrong. We went to Vietnam to "save" the South from being overrun with commie pinkos like you. Then why did your own government claim to have entirely different reasons? The US did a lot of international bull****ting at the start of the conflict - much like the bull**** about WMDs more recently. They have now lost all international trust. That trust will come back quickly next time some **** ant country that you choose to ignore invades you again. Let me know if ever you have something that can be supported with documented evidence that doesn't originate in some US made war movie or similar. That probably won't happen, as I doubt that you can tell the difference. It just did happen with the standard of living data above, fool. In case you forgot (more likely, you never knew), the North (commies) was attacking the South. With the help of China. So what? It wasn't anything to do with the US, it had been going on for more than a century and all the US did is cost lives - they won NOTHING. Following that logic, when Germany attacked France, it was nothing to do with the USA either. We could have just said, not our problem. But we didn't do that, did we? Actually, we focused the initial war effort MORE on Europe. If you know anything at all about the Domino Theory, it was that once communism got a foothold in Southeast Asia, other countries would fall like "dominoes," i.e., other countries would be pressed into communism. That's what we were fighting against. The spread of communism. You can look it up. Hang about, a post or so back you were claiming that America attacked North Vietnam in order to save South Vietnam. Once I mention the Domino theory you change your tune and ask me if "I" know anything about it. You're losing it dim bulb. You don't even know who you're responding to anymore, if you ever did. Trader said that, and he was right. We attacked the North who were (at the time) in the South, to SAVE the South from being overrun. *To SAVE * them from communism. Thus, the Domino Theory. Bull****. Why did your president say - on television, at the onset of the Vietnam conflict - in a world wide address, that they were fighting world communism? Not Vietnamese communism. In other words, America decided that it didn't like a valid political system and decided to attack countries that supported it? A valid political system. So, depite claiming to be right wing, you are a card carrying commie, aren't you? That political system enslaved people with no basic human rights. Stalin committed genocide under that "valid" govt system, killing 20 mil people. How many millions are dying today in North Korea under that system? What happened to the students in China who dared to question their govt? Only a fool would think communism is a vaild govt system. It only works by taking away freedom by force. Only countries that they thought - mistakenly - that they could beat. They didn't attack Russia as they knew that in that case they would definitely get their asses kicked. Oh, please. At the end of WWII, the USA had the atomic bomb and Russia didn't. If we were the war mongering nation you believe us to be, we could have creamed them. And maybe we should have creamed them enough to kick their asses out of Eastern Europe instead of letting all those countries become serf states of Russia. "The domino theory was used by successive United States administrations during the Cold War to clarify the need for American intervention around the world." It was a pretty good theory at the time. *See: South Korea. It was rubbish then and now. The US has no right to decide what type of Government other countries have. We never decided what govt any country should have. We did help countries defend themselves against COMMUNIST AGRESSION. Like when North Korea attacked South Korea. Or North Vietnam invaded South Vietnam. Or when we put our asses on the line risking nuclear war to keep the Russian out of West Germany and Taiwan. And we didn't. *The South didn't want to become communist. *They were (and still are) ardent capitalists. *And we supported their desire to remain capitalists. Not altruistically, America was using them for America's own political agenda. Yeah, just like we used the French when we saved you from the Germans who through your own stupidity and weakness, you were incapable of handling yourself. You know who the Vietnamese hate the most today? Yes, the French, from that ****ty little country of France, for trying to colonialize them. Why do so many speak French? The French are still there - not the military, but the French colonialists. After three hundred years they are a part of the country. I've been back to Vietnam, and almost without exception, the folks in the south still like Americans. More nonsense. They tolerate tourists but any families who lost relatives, and that is most - despise the US. Sure they do. That's why when your commie friends from the North finally overran the South, you saw boatloads of people, hundreds of thousands, fleeing on anything that would float to escape the country. And where did most of them go? To France? No, they came here, to the land of the free, USA. It is nice to see that you now accept that America is a war-mongering nation If you attack our friends, if you attempt to overthrow our friends, if you attempt to spread communism, you're going to have to deal with us. America has no friends. My country once supported America, we fought alongside it, but it would bring down our Government if they were to try to support America again. The people have had enough of the "US BS" and bullying Big Brother politics. Yes, like so many other countries, you'll be our friend again when you need us. - but you can stop trying to justify its actions. There is no justification. They made no political difference, they just killed a lot of people. We killed a lot of commies. Which is always a "good thing." Why? Communism, even if you don't agree with it - and I don't - is still a valid political system. The Nazi party was a vaild political system too. How did that work out for you French? What gives a country the right to kill people who endorse a political system that they disprove of, and without direct provocation. You clearly are as bad as those in the Bush regime. You support killing people just because you don't like something about them. Those who attacked the World Trade Centre did the same, but they had a lot of provocation. Yeah, they sure did. We won't convert to their radical Muslim religion. That's provocation for you. As I recall Al-Qaeda has killed French citizens and has France on it's target list too. Guess you all provoked them too. What they did was wrong, very wrong, but they were following a precedent set by US foreign policy over several decades. An outrageous lie. Why is what they did so different to what the US has done for decades? That about sums up what a fool you are. Attack and kill people who follow an ideology that they don't agree with? We have never attacked and killed people who follow an ideology we did not agree with. South Vietnam was INVADED. South Korea was INVADED. France was INVADED. Get it now? You are a politically and historically naive puppet. You're what Stalin would call a useful idiot. You have no empathy for the millions who have been killed or harmed by US foreign policy, and your concept of history is based on propaganda. You have no appreciation for all the people living in the world today that are free because of the sacrifices this country has made. And that includes you, Frenchy. You are an unpleasant, slow witted, barely literate fool. At least your current president - who unlike you has access to real facts and real history - has made attempts to apologise for America's actions over the past decades. Why is that if these things didn't (as you claim) happen? Was he bored and had nothing better to do? No, he's just another leftist, who finds fault with most things American, unless it's run by the govt.. His election was clearly a mistake, the polls show he is out of touch with mainstream America and he won't be re-elected. Let's leave it at that, no point in arguing with a xenophobic closed minded bigot. Yes, you're speaking about yourself, right? Your own President disagrees with you, he knows exactly what America has done, he understands the damage it has caused to millions, and he takes every opportunity to apologise. It won't change International opinion of the US overnight, but it is a start, a step toward conciliation. I couldn't care less about what someone in France thinks about the USA. I am back at work from tomorrow, my body cast is off, my final stitches out and I have already started physiotherapy. Was it brain surgery? Although arguing with fools helped pass the time whilst recuperating, it isn't productive. America is circling the drain, it can't get its political act together, it is bankrupt, and it has no friends. It will be sad to watch, as although I don't like US governments, I do like US people, Sure you do. Those people elected those govts. The majority stand behind this country and the good it has done in the world. And we despise American haters like you. but it is going to follow in the footsteps of the Soviet Union and collapse. China, the world's next political and economical super-power holds its mortgage, it cannot compete in a world market trade-wise as it cannot manufacture anything at a cost that is competitive. Then how is it that the USA is still the largest manufacturer in the world? Where exactly are the French Intels and Microsofts? It cannot survive on export - it has nothing significant of value to export. The future looks grim even to the optimists. I am glad that I don't live there. We are glad too. -- - Billy Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans "appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of waste, fraud and abuse." http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/ [W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And itıs not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. Thatıs hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they donıt get away with no taxation. - Ralph Nader http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Alarming Epidemic of Obesity
On 16/10/2011 1:28 AM, Billy wrote:
This is an "Off-Topic" post. It has zip to do with low carbing. Take it to a different venue. No. If you can't be bothered to post properly, I can't be bothered to listen to your request. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Alarming Epidemic of Obesity | Who_me? | Low Carbohydrate Diets | 0 | October 7th, 2011 07:45 AM |
Obesity Epidemic | Hunter | General Discussion | 5 | November 19th, 2005 04:27 PM |
Obesity Epidemic | Hunter | Low Carbohydrate Diets | 5 | November 19th, 2005 04:27 PM |