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Old April 21st, 2005, 02:50 PM
janers
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Hi,
new here and finding more about weight watchers.

I am on the plan as of 2 1/2 weeks. First week I did good and lost a total
of 2 pounds, then second week gained back 1.

What is with that? This week I am bouncing around. I know weighing should
be weekly and it just happened that I was in the bathroom and saw the
scales. Who wouldn't pop on it LOL.

Anyhow. I can't figure out what is wrong here. I do not attend meetings or
what ever but doing this program and once in awhile use part of the 35
extra points but never over 10 in a week.

Another problem is getting that many veggies in as well as fruit. What
kind of veggies is a good thing. I am eating carrots, celery, greenbeans,
lettuce etc.

any ideas here?
thanks much


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Old April 21st, 2005, 03:12 PM
Emerald Fire
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are you drinking all your water. it is an important pat of the program.
are you measuring everything. When I first started I weighed and measured
everything to be sure I had the right amount in my servings. you veggie
choices sound good. remember cooked Carrots have points and raw doesn't
though. try mixing it up and use all your points and all your flex in one
week and see if you loose. I had to eat every point I had at first, I still
eat most of my flex everyweek, but I do not count my Activity points. Keep
working at it and you will do great.


--
Emerald Fire

266/195.2/130

"janers" wrote in message
...
Hi,
new here and finding more about weight watchers.

I am on the plan as of 2 1/2 weeks. First week I did good and lost a total
of 2 pounds, then second week gained back 1.

What is with that? This week I am bouncing around. I know weighing should
be weekly and it just happened that I was in the bathroom and saw the
scales. Who wouldn't pop on it LOL.

Anyhow. I can't figure out what is wrong here. I do not attend meetings
or
what ever but doing this program and once in awhile use part of the 35
extra points but never over 10 in a week.

Another problem is getting that many veggies in as well as fruit. What
kind of veggies is a good thing. I am eating carrots, celery, greenbeans,
lettuce etc.

any ideas here?
thanks much




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Old April 21st, 2005, 06:38 PM
Tayra
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janers wrote:

Hi,
new here and finding more about weight watchers.


Hi there.

I am on the plan as of 2 1/2 weeks. First week I did good and lost a total
of 2 pounds, then second week gained back 1.


Well, you have to be careful with those scales. For one thing, home
scales usually aren't *too* accurate. Try, for instance, stepping on
it, seeing what it decides on, then stepping down for a couple minutes.
Step back on. Does it say the same thing? If it's counts out to a
tenth of a pound, it probably won't; you may gain or lose nearly a pound
just in different attempts. The WW scales at meetings seem far more
precise.

Another thing, your weight will vary on a daily basis anyway, just
depending how much food and water you've had, whether you've been to the
bathroom, what time of day it is, etc. I can't tell from your headers
whether you're male or female, but if female, you'll have to watch out
for monthly fluctuations too.

If you wanna hop on the scale at random just to see what it says, that's
fine. I know the temptation. Just don't take it too seriously. Try to
stick to a regular interval (a week) and a regular time (7am) for the
data points. Everything else is just playing.

Anyhow. I can't figure out what is wrong here. I do not attend meetings or
what ever but doing this program and once in awhile use part of the 35
extra points but never over 10 in a week.


You might attend a meeting just for the heck of it. I figured I
wouldn't need to go, and I don't, so far as support goes, but it does
give me the ability to ask any questions I have and have them answered
by people who've been doing this for years. And besides, their scales
are the only ones that go up high enough to weigh me :P

Use your flex points, that's what they're there for. Eating more will
keep your metabolism up, which will burn more food. And especially if
you get lots of exercise: the more you move, the more you need to eat to
fuel that movement. Don't think that eating less will mean more weight
loss: it may actually mean the reverse. I've got loads of personal
experience with that one. Go ahead and use your points, don't be afraid
of them.

Another problem is getting that many veggies in as well as fruit. What
kind of veggies is a good thing. I am eating carrots, celery, greenbeans,
lettuce etc.


I'm no help with veggies. Right now I've got so many daily points to
use up, zero-point foods are actually bad for me, because they fill me
up so I can't eat anything else and use up points. I'll get things like
carrots and peas in my meals, but otherwise, they never cross my path.
Which is nice, for someone who hates veggies :P

Tay
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Old April 21st, 2005, 09:22 PM
ray miller
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I am on the plan as of 2 1/2 weeks. First week I did good and lost a total
of 2 pounds, then second week gained back 1.

What is with that? This week I am bouncing around. I know weighing should
be weekly and it just happened that I was in the bathroom and saw the
scales. Who wouldn't pop on it LOL.

Anyhow. I can't figure out what is wrong here. I do not attend meetings or
what ever but doing this program and once in awhile use part of the 35
extra points but never over 10 in a week.

Another problem is getting that many veggies in as well as fruit. What
kind of veggies is a good thing. I am eating carrots, celery, greenbeans,
lettuce etc.

any ideas here?
thanks much


First thing is to stay with it - never give up
measure everything you eat and journal everything too. Almost
everybody under-estimates what they eat when they are trying to lose
and overestimates when they are trying to gain.

So far as weighing is concerned most people say to WI once a week on a
morning with the same clothing (or lack of it), and take a poop before
you get on the scales
There is an alternative and that is to weigh yourself very frequently
every day and plot it in excel. You will see the daily fluctuations
and that may help when you see the scale go up over the day and
magically lose 4 pounds overnight. You'll probably see a weekly and
monthly cycle too if you keep going long enough.

as for veges I eat carrots (roasted!), green beans, squash, salad
greens, cabbage, cauliflower, brocolli, sweet corn, pepper, onion,
mushrooms and there must be other stuff too.

good luck

Ray

--
2002 1.8i eternal red
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Old April 21st, 2005, 09:45 PM
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Hi and welcome to the group. While I was losing I avoided scales like the
plague - I didn't have a set in the house! My weekly weigh-in was it and it
helped avoid what you're going through - the bouncing around. As others
have said, meetings are a good thing to go to if you like that kin of thing,
but there are several people on this group that have never been to one so I
wouldn't say it's mandatory.

You could post a sample daily menu so we can give you some ideas if you're
comfortable with that. And in general, any vegies are good!

Anyway, here's our welcome notice to get you started. The semi-weekly
welcome notice also has some great informational links that you could check
out for some more ideas.

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support,
advice, and encouragement. Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links
that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may want to look for that
later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ:
http://www.didian.com/asdww/
our welcome notice:
http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG:
NSV = Non-Scale Victory
WOE = Way of Eating
WOL = Way of Life (Living)
OP = on Points or On Program
DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc
WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

Totally Groovy exercise challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/tg.htm

Choose to Lose weight loss challenge:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/ctl.htm

Weight Loss Challenge Summary:
http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/summary.htm


Other acronyms:
http://www.wwlissa.com/dwlz100+/100+acronyms.htm

Here's a short synopsis of the USA Flexpoints program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you
lose weight those points allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will
need less to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints
system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are
allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week ... as well as any
activity points you earn on a particular day. When your weight drops to
175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once
again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5
servings of fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water.

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points.
Points do not carry over from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly
flexpoints to be used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use
daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them
for a special occassion during the week. Activity points are earned based
when exercising, but can ONLY be used on the day they are earned.


Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

And here's an explanation of Core/No-count by Laura -

It is a great plan. You DO however need to make sure that you are eating at
your normal Flex plan target number of points. This can be difficult for
some and you WILL stop losing.

Here is the summary of the plan: http://ahwww.home.comcast.net/summary.htm
Here is the detail list of foods:
http://ahwww.home.comcast.net/wwcoreplan.htm

Basic rules:
1. Eat as much of the core foods as you need to feel "satisfied" (not full).
2. If you want to eat foods that are not on the core foods list use you 35
weekly points allowance (WPA).
Note: use these points on healthy foods and not junk.
3. Activity points are used to supplement the 35 WPA for Non-core food items
only. They must be used on the day they are earned.
Note: most people find that they will increase the amount of core foods
because they are hungrier due to exercising.
4. 2 teaspoons of heathy oil daily is required.

~Laura

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ,
Europe), the Points plans are different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate
points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most of Europe
calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator
above can handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that
most of the people who participate are respectful, considerate folks who
freely share their experience with and knowledge of WW, weight loss, and
maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post
advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the
time, people like this are just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the
regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try if
you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what
works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right
to you, ask the newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health
professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/73.6/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
205.7/161.9/162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ and welcome notice:
http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html


"janers" wrote in message
...
Hi,
new here and finding more about weight watchers.

I am on the plan as of 2 1/2 weeks. First week I did good and lost a total
of 2 pounds, then second week gained back 1.

What is with that? This week I am bouncing around. I know weighing should
be weekly and it just happened that I was in the bathroom and saw the
scales. Who wouldn't pop on it LOL.

Anyhow. I can't figure out what is wrong here. I do not attend meetings
or
what ever but doing this program and once in awhile use part of the 35
extra points but never over 10 in a week.

Another problem is getting that many veggies in as well as fruit. What
kind of veggies is a good thing. I am eating carrots, celery, greenbeans,
lettuce etc.

any ideas here?
thanks much




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Old April 21st, 2005, 09:45 PM
Anny Middon
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"janers" wrote in message
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Hi,
new here and finding more about weight watchers.

I am on the plan as of 2 1/2 weeks. First week I did good and lost a total
of 2 pounds, then second week gained back 1.


Well, depending on your sex and age, it could be premenstrual water weight.
Back in the days before i (blessedly) became a crone, that was often a
problem for me.

A gain can also be due to constipation, having eaten high sodium foods
(water gain again) or something else. Our bodies aren't machines so they
don't always react logically. You gotta go with the flow to some extent.


What is with that? This week I am bouncing around. I know weighing should
be weekly and it just happened that I was in the bathroom and saw the
scales. Who wouldn't pop on it LOL.

Anyhow. I can't figure out what is wrong here. I do not attend meetings
or
what ever but doing this program and once in awhile use part of the 35
extra points but never over 10 in a week.

Another problem is getting that many veggies in as well as fruit. What
kind of veggies is a good thing. I am eating carrots, celery, greenbeans,
lettuce etc.


Are you in the northern hemisphere? If so -- ASPARAGUS!!!!! It's in season
now and my very favorite veggie.

I like broccoli and cauliflower, too. And zucchini. And tomatoes.

Grape tomatoes are a bit pricey in my area now, but when they're cheap I eat
'em by the handful.

Anny


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Old April 22nd, 2005, 12:10 AM
janers
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Thank you so much people.

I do drink water, and to an excess over 8 glasses a day. I write all down
what I put in my mouth and use the flex point system. Weighing the food, I
have not done. I go by the palm of my hand being 3 ounces of meat etc. I
do however measure the other stuff and use the guide for points book as
well as the sliding rule. I read labels.

I appreciate all your help and will continue to read here and if I may, yak
once in awhile

thanks again
janers


 




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