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Old October 2nd, 2003, 04:07 AM
Jennifer Austin
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"JayJay" wrote in message
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"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote in message
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What is it about a human being that makes them believe they can ever go
back to eating like they did prior to their diet/WOE? I was reading on
another NG & some posts and it struck me that most of the folks posting
had been up and down for years. And on every diet under the sun? So what
makes us think that we are omnipotent and we can go back to eating like
we did before? Personally I have never tried to diet before last June
15th when I decided to make this lifestyle change for me and my
children, so I have no history of ups and downs and being on that weight
roller coaster for years. Maybe this will be the start of that for me? I
sure hope not


Here's a question for you. You've now found a healthier way of eating

and
you are losing weight - right? Once you reach your goal, do you plan to

go
back to your old way of eating? No - right? (the answer should be an
emphatic NO).

That's where alot of "diets" go wrong. Yeah, you "diet" and lose weight
but when these people reach goal, the go off the "diet" and go back to

their
old way of eating. Of course that old way of eating made them fat once,

it
will make them fat again. They didn't learn a damned thing by doing

what
they did.

Successful weight loss stories always include a LONG TERM change in
lifestyle that includes both food and exercise. They change their way of
eating (woe) and way of life (wol). Those are the terms we use in here.
"diet" should be considered a 4 letter word. :-)

Diets are for people who want to yoyo through life. WOE and WOL are for
those who intend to stay healthy for the remainder of our life.


This is why in spite of using a diet to lose weight, I plan on using a new
WOE to keep it off. Nice thing about this fast is that as I incorporate
foods back into my life, I can just completely avoid the stuff I shouldn't
eat and build the habit of eating better from scratch (and living better).
It's been so long since I've had crappy, junk food that I no longer miss it
physically and even mentally. (except cheesecake - but that's only going to
be in one situation and well planned)

Jenn


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Old October 2nd, 2003, 04:11 AM
Jennifer Austin
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"Susan Jones-Anderson" wrote in message
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What is it about a human being that makes them believe they can ever go
back to eating like they did prior to their diet/WOE? I was reading on
another NG & some posts and it struck me that most of the folks posting
had been up and down for years. And on every diet under the sun? So what
makes us think that we are omnipotent and we can go back to eating like
we did before? Personally I have never tried to diet before last June
15th when I decided to make this lifestyle change for me and my
children, so I have no history of ups and downs and being on that weight
roller coaster for years. Maybe this will be the start of that for me? I
sure hope not

Susan
260/219/160

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3weeks 1days 16:26hours of being smoke-free, 914 cigs not smoked,
$169.09 saved, 3day 4:10hours of my life saved


Having never succeeded in dieting before now - actually reaching a goal I
can't tell you why. Most of the time, I was just frustrated with the diet
and gave up or slowly started bringing the old bad habits back into the
picture before even losing more than 20-40 pounds out of the 100+ I've
needed to lose. AND I never truly took change to heart - internalizing it.
I was of the mindset that losing weight would solve all of my problems in
life and when it didn't I just didn't want to make the effort because it was
so much easier to make excuses.

Jenn
300/150/14?


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Old October 2nd, 2003, 10:57 AM
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"Jennifer Austin" wrote in message
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It's been so long since I've had crappy, junk food that I no longer miss it
physically and even mentally. (except cheesecake - but that's only going to
be in one situation and well planned)


My guess is that even that cheesecake isn't going to taste like you remembered -- it
will be too sweet and too heavy and your mouth will have that icky oily feel and
it'll lay on your stomach like a rock after you eat it because your body isn't used
to heavy sugary fatty cruddy "food" anymore. I'm only slightly kidding. :-)

Mary M


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Old October 2nd, 2003, 12:50 PM
Jennifer Austin
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"Mary M - Ohio" wrote in message
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"Jennifer Austin" wrote in message
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It's been so long since I've had crappy, junk food that I no longer miss

it
physically and even mentally. (except cheesecake - but that's only going

to
be in one situation and well planned)


My guess is that even that cheesecake isn't going to taste like you

remembered -- it
will be too sweet and too heavy and your mouth will have that icky oily

feel and
it'll lay on your stomach like a rock after you eat it because your body

isn't used
to heavy sugary fatty cruddy "food" anymore. I'm only slightly kidding.

:-)

Mary M


And that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. That's kind of what
happened with me with cigarettes.

My friend who lost weight years ago and kept it off said she went 10 years
without a fast food hamburger and then one day she decided to stop at McD's.
It made her ill and she couldn't finish it. She hasn't had another one
since. I know what you're referring to!

Jenn


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Old October 2nd, 2003, 12:58 PM
Jennifer Austin
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"Ignoramus28710" wrote in message
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In article , Jennifer Austin wrote:
This is why in spite of using a diet to lose weight, I plan on using a

new
WOE to keep it off. Nice thing about this fast is that as I incorporate
foods back into my life, I can just completely avoid the stuff I

shouldn't
eat and build the habit of eating better from scratch (and living

better).
It's been so long since I've had crappy, junk food that I no longer miss

it
physically and even mentally. (except cheesecake - but that's only going

to
be in one situation and well planned)


My suggestion for you is to think of yourself likely to fail unless
you make a heroic effort. You will need all motivation you can get!!!

i
223/177/180


Yes because the all or nothing mentality really works for everyone (/sarcasm
off).

In all seriousness, a person doesn't have to live like a monk/nun/whatever
forever and every second of the day. That kind of rigidity leads to
failure, especially with people who have a history of eating disorders.
There is life during weight maintenance and creating and sticking to a plan
is one way to help be more normal. I have a plan, I know my limitations, and
that's what I need. For example, I know that if I were to gain 5 pounds
(the limit I chose) that was not accompanied by a loss in size due to muscle
gain, it would be time to cut back to 1200 cal again (once I get past that
of course) until I was back where I wanted to be. I have no intention of
buying larger clothes again.

BTW, I am extremely motivated. I don't need some kind of anal-retentive
mindset to keep my motivation.


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Old October 2nd, 2003, 01:25 PM
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:57:45 -0400, "Mary M - Ohio"
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"Jennifer Austin" wrote in message
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It's been so long since I've had crappy, junk food that I no longer miss it
physically and even mentally. (except cheesecake - but that's only going to
be in one situation and well planned)


My guess is that even that cheesecake isn't going to taste like you remembered -- it
will be too sweet and too heavy and your mouth will have that icky oily feel and
it'll lay on your stomach like a rock after you eat it because your body isn't used
to heavy sugary fatty cruddy "food" anymore. I'm only slightly kidding. :-)

Mary M


I dunno. The cheesecake I had the other night at Ruth's Chris was
really good :-). It was the sort I particularly like, with the inside
very sour-creamy and not too sweet or sticky. But not something for
everyday!

Chris
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Old October 2nd, 2003, 01:46 PM
Jayjay
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 06:50:01 -0500, "Jennifer Austin"
wrote:

My friend who lost weight years ago and kept it off said she went 10 years
without a fast food hamburger and then one day she decided to stop at McD's.
It made her ill and she couldn't finish it. She hasn't had another one
since. I know what you're referring to!


Even without fasting - that same has happened to me over time.
Donuts, fast food, etc... all of them make me feel ill after eating
and leave that greasy taste in your mouth (Cat tongue)...

I'm even at the point where I can't stand the smell of going into a
fast food joint - all the oil and cleaner and slippery floors - it
just makes me ill.
 




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