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A couple of questions
Ignoramus wrote:
If you are slim, very active, and eat servings of pasta here and there, all the power to you. If you are overweight and pasta makes you hungry and you find yourself overeating after a few hours passes after your pasta meal, then you probably need to reassess your pasta eating. A good sign of this would be trying to lose weight and being unable to. If you find yourself in this position, then, junking pasta would be a good option. There is not a great deal of difference between how "simple carbohydrates" and "complex carbohydrates" are metabolized. In my previous life, pasta was something I ate *lots* of several times every week. That had to stop when I wanted to lose weight. BUT I didn't want to completely give up a food I really loved all my life. So instead of a huge bowl (or two!)with a heavy meat sauce, I measure out a cup and then pile on some roasted zucchini and/or eggplant, some marinara and find it to be totally satisfying. I probably have this once every 3 weeks or so. It's part of the program I've worked out for myself and seems to work out fine. I can eat anything I want - I just can't have it all *today*. -- Walking (or riding!) on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 |
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 at 14:51:26, Doug Freyburger
wrote: Annabel Smyth wrote: I'm not a top athlete (although I am a triple international gold medallist in my sport) If you have those medals then I don't get why you deny you're a top althete in that sport. Have you retired from competition numerous years ago? If so then the medals are cool history not current status. No, but they are against my peers in age and ability, not against the objective best. but the reason why I care is that athletes, of all people, eat healthily. *For their current situtation* *based on their current knowledge*. Neither automatically translates to someone interested in losing weight. As far as I am aware, current thinking still recommends a way of eating based on complex carbohydrates, fruit and vegetables, with protein from low-fat sources, a little mono-unsaturated fat, and as little saturated fat, sugar and alcohol as one could manage. Unless, of course, one follows a faddy diet that cuts out an entire food group. I would have thought a diet based on chicken or fish, fresh vegetables and pasta (or, perhaps, rice) would be healthy by anybody's standards, no? No. I was with you all the way up to your mention of pasta. Also note that vegans wouldn't hav emade it that far into your statement. You're generalizing. Someone who is vegetarian or vegan would not eat chicken or fish, certainly, but it was you, I think, who mentioned steak and lobster in another post - both foods that I would only eat occasionally, if at all, because of the saturated fat content, to say nothing of the price! I was brought up to believe that a healthy diet contained healthy amounts of complex carbohydrates; obviously sugar, being a simple carbohydrate is out, and modern thinking, I know, looks at the GI index of all carbohydrate foods. I was raised to think that too. Doesn't mean it was actually correct. I have yet to have it proved to my satisfaction that cutting out an entire food group is a healthy way to eat. Even a low fat diet contains a little fat, particularly mono-unsaturates. -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 at 14:15:56, Ignoramus31782
wrote: Doug, while what you said makes a lot of sense, in general, Annabel seems to be a person who is doing okay eating those grains and carbs, according to some of her self descriptions. Indeed; thank you. I'm afraid Doug comes across as extraordinarily aggressive, so I don't plan to respond to his comments. Anyway, I've no time now.... -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:22:49 +0100, Annabel Smyth
wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 at 14:15:56, Ignoramus31782 wrote: Doug, while what you said makes a lot of sense, in general, Annabel seems to be a person who is doing okay eating those grains and carbs, according to some of her self descriptions. Indeed; thank you. I'm afraid Doug comes across as extraordinarily aggressive, so I don't plan to respond to his comments. Anyway, I've no time now.... I've also done just fine eating grains and carbs -- among other things, of course. I try to make selections with good nutritional bang for the buck, but don't restrict any types of foods. Chris 262/143/ (145-150) |
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A couple of questions
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:22:49 +0100, Annabel Smyth
wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 at 14:15:56, Ignoramus31782 wrote: Doug, while what you said makes a lot of sense, in general, Annabel seems to be a person who is doing okay eating those grains and carbs, according to some of her self descriptions. Indeed; thank you. I'm afraid Doug comes across as extraordinarily aggressive, so I don't plan to respond to his comments. Anyway, I've no time now.... I've also done just fine eating grains and carbs -- among other things, of course. I try to make selections with good nutritional bang for the buck, but don't restrict any types of foods. Chris 262/143/ (145-150) |
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In article , Ignoramus31782
wrote: 262/143/ (145-150) I also eat grains and carbs, at least grains until very recently. I am now experimenting with eating no grains at all, and it turns out that I am much less hungry this way. I used to eat a slice of bread in the morning, I subtracted it a week ago, and it made me a little less hungry. Will experiment some more, to ascertain that this is reliably true and not just a fluke. i Sounds like "Animal Farm." Amy |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 at 00:34:44, Ignoramus31782
wrote: I also eat grains and carbs, at least grains until very recently. I am now experimenting with eating no grains at all, and it turns out that I am much less hungry this way. I used to eat a slice of bread in the morning, I subtracted it a week ago, and it made me a little less hungry. Will experiment some more, to ascertain that this is reliably true and not just a fluke. I believe some people do extremely well after cutting out bread and pasta for the simple reason that they had an unsuspected gluten or wheat intolerance, and cutting it out of their diet made them feel very much better and also stopped them bloating - a friend of my mother's, who tried the Atkins diet to lose weight, discovered that way that she had a gluten intolerance and now feels 100% better (plus, she has lost weight, I understand!). However, not everybody is gluten- or wheat-intolerant! -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 at 00:34:44, Ignoramus31782
wrote: I also eat grains and carbs, at least grains until very recently. I am now experimenting with eating no grains at all, and it turns out that I am much less hungry this way. I used to eat a slice of bread in the morning, I subtracted it a week ago, and it made me a little less hungry. Will experiment some more, to ascertain that this is reliably true and not just a fluke. I believe some people do extremely well after cutting out bread and pasta for the simple reason that they had an unsuspected gluten or wheat intolerance, and cutting it out of their diet made them feel very much better and also stopped them bloating - a friend of my mother's, who tried the Atkins diet to lose weight, discovered that way that she had a gluten intolerance and now feels 100% better (plus, she has lost weight, I understand!). However, not everybody is gluten- or wheat-intolerant! -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 at 13:33:50, Ignoramus2121
wrote: In article , Doug Freyburger wrote: Annabel Smyth wrote: Ignoramus31782 wrote: Doug, while what you said makes a lot of sense, in general, Annabel seems to be a person who is doing okay eating those grains and carbs, according to some of her self descriptions. Doing well trumps doing poorly. But does it trump also truth? I am not sure what truth, I may be missing something. Annabel is not experiencing hunger after eating pasta etc, the way she is describing herself, she is metabolising those carbs just fine. So she can be losing weight, eating pasta, and not feel excessively hungry or miserable, according to her. As far as I know... mind you, after a week in Warsaw during which losing weight was about the *last* thing on my mind, I need to "jump-start" again... Sigh.... but as I have found low-fat eating the way that works for me in the past, it will probably work again in the future. -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 at 13:33:50, Ignoramus2121
wrote: In article , Doug Freyburger wrote: Annabel Smyth wrote: Ignoramus31782 wrote: Doug, while what you said makes a lot of sense, in general, Annabel seems to be a person who is doing okay eating those grains and carbs, according to some of her self descriptions. Doing well trumps doing poorly. But does it trump also truth? I am not sure what truth, I may be missing something. Annabel is not experiencing hunger after eating pasta etc, the way she is describing herself, she is metabolising those carbs just fine. So she can be losing weight, eating pasta, and not feel excessively hungry or miserable, according to her. As far as I know... mind you, after a week in Warsaw during which losing weight was about the *last* thing on my mind, I need to "jump-start" again... Sigh.... but as I have found low-fat eating the way that works for me in the past, it will probably work again in the future. -- Annabel Smyth http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html Website updated 18 July 2004 |
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