Wow -- Atkins *was* on to something

So I'm out of cheerios now so instead I made instant oatmeal
(pre-sweetened with 'maple/brown sugar' -- ugh).

I'm a LOT hungrier for lunch now than usual, and I pretty sure there
were more calories in the oatmeal than my usual cheerios+protein
powder breakfast.

gotta get to the store today...

"Heywood Mogroot" wrote in message
om...
So I'm out of cheerios now so instead I made instant oatmeal
(pre-sweetened with 'maple/brown sugar' -- ugh).

I'm a LOT hungrier for lunch now than usual, and I pretty sure there
were more calories in the oatmeal than my usual cheerios+protein
powder breakfast.

gotta get to the store today...

Try using regular oatmeal with protein powder and ground flaxseed. I eat
this quite often for breakfast and seldom get hungry before lunch. I never
buy the pre-sweetened oatmeal.

On 5 Aug 2004 12:03:54 -0700, (Heywood Mogroot)
wrote:

So I'm out of cheerios now so instead I made instant oatmeal
(pre-sweetened with 'maple/brown sugar' -- ugh).

I'm a LOT hungrier for lunch now than usual, and I pretty sure there
were more calories in the oatmeal than my usual cheerios+protein
powder breakfast.

gotta get to the store today...

Conclusive proof if there every was any.

"Heywood Mogroot" wrote in message
om...
So I'm out of cheerios now so instead I made instant oatmeal
(pre-sweetened with 'maple/brown sugar' -- ugh).

I'm a LOT hungrier for lunch now than usual, and I pretty sure there
were more calories in the oatmeal than my usual cheerios+protein
powder breakfast.

gotta get to the store today...

Sugar does this to me, not necessarily all carbs. If I eat lower glycemic
carbs, I stay fuller longer. The presweetened instant oatmeal has lots of
sugar in it - you can even see the big chunk of sugar in the packet. For
me, it is not the carbs in general that make me hungry, it's the high
glycemic carbs - like sugar or candy that make me hungry. The low GI carbs
make me feel full longer. And it's even better if I include protein and fat.
All three together satisfy me better than any one macronutrient by itself .
But that's just what I've found out for myself - every person is different.
I just know that if I'm hungry for a snack, I'm better off without sugar.

-Jen

"Aquarijen" wrote in message
...
The presweetened instant oatmeal has lots of
sugar in it - you can even see the big chunk of sugar in the packet.

Actually, it's not only the "presweetened" part, it's also the "instant"
part. Most pre-cooked, instant or whatever food products (rice, pasta,
oatmeal...) have *insane* GI index. In some cases, the added saccharose is
actually the low GI part of the product, since some of these actually come
close to pure glucose on the GI scale...

And it's even better if I include protein and fat.
All three together satisfy me better than any one macronutrient by itself
..

All of these reducing GI down to moderate/low values (and you don't have to
mix all these together, as long as they're in the same meal, it will end up
mixed in the stomach anyway). But maybe there is another element at play
too. Some nutritionists claim there is a notion of partial hungers; the body
will crave for some macro-nutriments and will continue craving if it hasn't
gotten it. Some claim there is no differentiation between carbs and fats,
since they're both energy, but there is one for proteins. That should not be
a problem usually since the body seems to be content with a daily average.
But if you're dieting, there is some chance that maybe you are borderline on
the macro-nutriments you get. Hence the added hunger if you didn't get
enough proteins/fats.

But that's just what I've found out for myself - every person is
different.

Yes, and it doesn't seem to be a question of being regular or pre-diabetic.
I'm a T2, but I lost my weight through hunger/satiety and doing lots of
experimentations with my nutritionist. This involved eating single food
meals, like French fries or chocolate only. True, I never ate pure sugar
(I'm not suicidal, besides it's not a very satisfying meal), but high carb
content didn't seem to disturb long term satiety, French fries and chocolate
worked just as well as cheese. The only noticeable difference was the kind
of energy I would feel if I exercised shortly afterwards, sugar gave some
kind of nervous energy I didn't get with fats.
Though it seems I can't do this kind of tests anymore, it seems I'm now able
to survive a full featured English brunch (scones, muffins, tart, eggs...)
with a post-prandial at the same level of my fasting (1g)

I just know that if I'm hungry for a snack, I'm better off without sugar.

Weirdly enough, snack did cause me a slight rebound, while meals didn't.
Though something like chocolate or fruits did fine with me, it was really
pure sugar that didn't do the job.

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 at 12:03:54, Heywood Mogroot
wrote:

So I'm out of cheerios now so instead I made instant oatmeal
(pre-sweetened with 'maple/brown sugar' -- ugh).

Yuck! Ordinary porridge takes no longer than the instant variety to
make, and is probably a lot healthier - you just put a couple of
tablespoons in a large bowl, add a pinch of salt, a handful of raisins
(if you like raisins, and aren't Celtic - the Celts don't believe in
sweet porridge!), and more water than you would think possible (about 1
cup per tablespoon, it works out as), and microwave for about 3 minutes.
If still a bit too liquid, stir, then microwave for another minute.

Add some milk (or cream, if your eating plan allows it), a little brown
sugar (ditto, and if you aren't Celtic), and enjoy.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 18 July 2004

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 at 12:03:54, Heywood Mogroot
wrote:

So I'm out of cheerios now so instead I made instant oatmeal
(pre-sweetened with 'maple/brown sugar' -- ugh).

Yuck! Ordinary porridge takes no longer than the instant variety to
make, and is probably a lot healthier - you just put a couple of
tablespoons in a large bowl, add a pinch of salt, a handful of raisins
(if you like raisins, and aren't Celtic - the Celts don't believe in
sweet porridge!), and more water than you would think possible (about 1
cup per tablespoon, it works out as), and microwave for about 3 minutes.
If still a bit too liquid, stir, then microwave for another minute.

Add some milk (or cream, if your eating plan allows it), a little brown
sugar (ditto, and if you aren't Celtic), and enjoy.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 18 July 2004