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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
...
L.B. Listmann wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
L.B. Listmann wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

The healthiest people are truly the hungriest people :-)

Then why are they dying of disease and suffering nutritional
deficiencies
that weaken the immune system?

Those of us who are among the hungriest (able to eat the most) are the
healthiest not dying of anything and nutritionally the most replete.

So those who eat the most food are the hungriest, thinnest and healthiest
people alive? Does that mean those who are starving to death are the
fattest and sickliest?


The healthiest people are winning gold medals at Olympic events (i.e.
Michael Phelps) and also winning various twinkie/hotdog eating
contests to the amazement of spectators expecting obese winners.
Their ability to eat large amounts is an indication that these hungry
(healthy) competitors are far from dying from anything.

Have personally become about 12 million times hungrier (healthier)
since using the 2PD-OMER Approach over the past 12 years:

You didn't answer the question.

See above.

I did. You're claiming those who eat the most are the thinnest and
hungriest. That makes no sense.


Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, L.B., so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
... ----------------- be hungry ! ! !"

Only GOD can cut the "hunger is starvation" delusion from our hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...81ab7d7ce78de?

On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:04:13 -0700 read in alt.support.diabetes,Julie Bove
posted:

"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
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"Julie Bove" wrote:

I collect old books, particularly those on cooking, ...
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........easy tool to use, so it gets widely overused.

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My reply...for some reason this didn't come out with the 's on it.

Ah, yeah, G'day Julie, No biggie. Long, live and prosper.

You are posting on Usenet, thru' a newsreader Outlook Express 6 to respond
to Doug who is using Google groups and no news reader.
It is not your fault, it is not Doug's fault.
Despite OE settings re quoted text, OE & Google don't play well together.
More posters each day think Usenet is another name for Google Groups.

As a newsreader Google makes a good archive.

Lindsay in OZ
M, 56, Non diabetic but familiarly involved.
So I lurk, don't post often - usually in non medical threads.

"It is in the shelter of each other that people live."
Irish Proverb&

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
...
L.B. Listmann wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Kaz Kylheku wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...e71fa96107435?

The irrational resistance (excuse-making) against using the simple
2PD-OMER Approach arises from the pervasive and deadly delusion that
"hunger is starvation" which has been discussed in a different thread
starting with the following OP:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...915cc6cd0e47e?

Why do you lie constantly?

It remains my personal choice to continue to write truthfully.

You're not writing truthfully. Moderate exercise and calorie counting
(portion control) cause weight loss, not eating some magic number of lbs of
food per day.


I have never seen anyone on these groups claim
"hunger" is "starvation."

You clearly have the delusion that "hunger is starvation" inside your
heart as evident by the following Usenet post attributed to you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...0f41c48ff2e7a?

Are you going to lie and claim the *hungriest people* are not those starving
to death? That those starving to death are not at all "hungry?" Mild hunger
alone is not starvation. Severe hunger, being the hungriest as you claim, is
indeed starvation.

L.B. Listmann
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Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:37:21 -0500
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Subject: The "hunger is starvation" delusion
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
...

The healthiest people are truly the hungriest people :-)

Then why are they dying of disease and suffering nutritional deficiencies
that weaken the immune system?

L.B. Listmann wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
L.B. Listmann wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
L.B. Listmann wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

The healthiest people are truly the hungriest people :-)

Then why are they dying of disease and suffering nutritional
deficiencies
that weaken the immune system?

Those of us who are among the hungriest (able to eat the most) are the
healthiest not dying of anything and nutritionally the most replete.

So those who eat the most food are the hungriest, thinnest and healthiest
people alive?

No.

Those who are eating the daily right amount of food become the
healthiest (hungriest) people around:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8B_70Jp-kc

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, L.B., so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
.... ----------------- be hungry ! ! !"

Only GOD can cut the "hunger is starvation" delusion from our hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...81ab7d7ce78de?

On Fri, 15 May 2009 21:55:45 -0500, L.B. Listmann wrote:

Chung got this 2PD nonsense from the bible. Apparently be believes everyone
from near infancy to old age is supposed to consume 2 lbs of food a day.
Calories don't matter according to Chung. He bases this 2 PD diet on the
biblical "manna from heaven" story. There is no basis in reality for this
diet he's pushing.

More lies and innacuaracies.

Clue coming! Read about what you criticize, it will assist you in ot
looking like the moron you are. Hide it better, anyway.
--
http://tinyurl.com/5gt7

On Sat, 16 May 2009 08:57:31 -0600, Tiger Lily wrote:

L.B. Listmann wrote:

wrote in message
u...
Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which does not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

God bless.

Chung got this 2PD nonsense from the bible. Apparently be believes
everyone from near infancy to old age is supposed to consume 2 lbs of
food a day. Calories don't matter according to Chung. He bases this 2
PD diet on the biblical "manna from heaven" story. There is no basis in
reality for this diet he's pushing.


no, chung got the 2 lb idea from watching Mt Everest climbers at an
I-Max theatre........ they took 2 lbs of food with them, and he said
'eureka' and started to tout 2 lbs

Poor Listerineman, you shot him in his head. lol

it was pointed out to chung that the 2lbs of food was DRIED FOOD and
they used the snow to rehydrate it, and to get their own water

then andie found religion

Nope, had it before.

......... and he read about the omer

and now, it's all God's vision

Most everything is.

(me rolls her eyes here)

Careful, Lily, if God is real, you're screwed.
--
http://tinyurl.com/5gt7

On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:17:11 -0500, L.B. Listmann wrote:

Bomb calorimeter measurements of 2 lbs (908 grams) of food comprising
of a variety of a person's favorites typically yields about 1800
calories and not 8000-9000 calories as you falsely claim. This has
been pointed out to you earlier by Kaz:

The favorite foods of many, if not most obese people are not low calorie
foods. Fries, sweets, burgers etc are not going to contain 1800 in a 2 pound
portion

You don't know that, no one does. Cal books are about "average" and
averages can be widely varied.
--
http://tinyurl.com/5gt7

MU wrote:
Kate (Tiger Lily) wrote:
L.B. Listmann wrote:
someone who hates the 2PD-OMER Approach despairingly posted:

Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice

All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which does not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

God bless.

Chung got this 2PD nonsense from the bible. Apparently be believes
everyone from near infancy to old age is supposed to consume 2 lbs of
food a day. Calories don't matter according to Chung. He bases this 2
PD diet on the biblical "manna from heaven" story. There is no basis in
reality for this diet he's pushing.

no, chung got the 2 lb idea from watching Mt Everest climbers at an
I-Max theatre........ they took 2 lbs of food with them, and he said
'eureka' and started to tout 2 lbs

Poor Listerineman, you shot him in his head. lol

it was pointed out to chung that the 2lbs of food was DRIED FOOD and
they used the snow to rehydrate it, and to get their own water

then andie found religion

Nope, had it before.

Correct.

......... and he read about the omer

and now, it's all God's vision

Most everything is.

(me rolls her eyes here)

Careful, Lily, if God is real, you're screwed.

GOD is real...

.... and only GOD can cure Kate's type-1 diabetes.

Only those of us, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), have
been forgiven so that we have the courage to ask GOD for such favors:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

May GOD soften Kate's heart so that she would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
.... ----------------- be hungry ! ! !"

Only GOD can cut the "hunger is starvation" delusion from our hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...81ab7d7ce78de?

On Sun, 17 May 2009 19:44:14 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article
):

GOD is real...

As real as Jesus' and his older brother who has the birth right, Harvey

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