Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their life thatcould be a cause for the eating disorder?

Hi there,

In an ongoing thread started by Teena " "Meridia -- does it work?",
I explained to Teena how I would consider obesity to be the visible
symptom a psychological problem. I think as eating disorder as a result
of a addiction of some sort, much like alcoholism or tabacco consumption.
Weither I am right or wrong is not what I was thinking about.

But Teena asked a very good question:

"Do the people in the
ng feel they were psychologically sick before they started low-carbing, or
do they feel there was something else wrong that kept them overweight? "



As I told in the latter thread, I sometimes ask the people I care for
this strange question, qhen they are upset:

"What is the one thing that makes your life difficult to live, the one
thing you would remove from your life right know if you could,
regardless of the consequences?"

I don't expect members of theis NG to expose the nature of their
problems. But the question would be:

Can you identify clearly this problem?
I certainly can, in my case.

Huey

Hueyduck wrote in message ...

"Do the people in the
ng feel they were psychologically sick before they started
low-carbing, or
do they feel there was something else wrong that kept them
overweight? "

No, I didn't feel psychologically sick, but I felt physically sick.
The reason I started LC was because of diabetes.

"What is the one thing that makes your life difficult to live, the
one
thing you would remove from your life right know if you could,
regardless of the consequences?"

Diabetes. I could do without it, though I have to say it doesn't
really make my life terribly difficult, I'd just rather not *have* to
deal with it daily. :-)

Can you identify clearly this problem?
I certainly can, in my case.

Mine too.

Cheri

Cheri a écrit :
Hueyduck wrote in message ...

"Do the people in the
ng feel they were psychologically sick before they started
low-carbing, or
do they feel there was something else wrong that kept them
overweight? "

No, I didn't feel psychologically sick, but I felt physically sick.
The reason I started LC was because of diabetes.


Sometimes I sum up the way I eatlike this:
"I eat like a diabetic".
This explains everything to my friends(no sugar in your house? no rice
cispies, no coke , no cookies, no bread?).
But when I imagine what it would be like to really be diabetic, I
realize how irritatng it can get, sometimes.

But maybe you don't qualify for this survey, Cheri:-) == you might not
be fat

Huey

Hueyduck wrote in message ...

But maybe you don't qualify for this survey, Cheri:-) == you might
not
be fat

Huey

No, I'm still overweight. I have 20-30 pounds to lose that I just
never got around to losing after losing the initial 35 pounds. I
started at 185 many years ago at 5'4" I am in a losing mode right now,
due to going back to a weight loss group TOPS a couple of weeks ago. I
am pretty much the only low carber there though. :-)

Cheri

"Hueyduck" Hi there,


I explained to Teena how I would consider obesity to be the visible
symptom a psychological problem. I think as eating disorder as a result of
a addiction of some sort, much like alcoholism or tabacco consumption.
Weither I am right or wrong is not what I was thinking about.

But Teena asked a very good question:

"Do the people in the
ng feel they were psychologically sick before they started low-carbing, or
do they feel there was something else wrong that kept them overweight? "


No. Nothing psychological--just a love of food. I didn't get fat until
Uncle Sam sent me to Germany. Have you seen German food? Have you seen
German bier? I found something called kaeseplunder and had at least 3 a
day! And the bratwurst and schnitzel and kartoffeln and.... I could go on
and on. I ate it all! And spatzel and gummi and...

Pat in TX

"Hueyduck" wrote in message
...
Hi there,

In an ongoing thread started by Teena " "Meridia -- does it work?",
I explained to Teena how I would consider obesity to be the visible
symptom a psychological problem. I think as eating disorder as a result of
a addiction of some sort, much like alcoholism or tabacco consumption.
Weither I am right or wrong is not what I was thinking about.

Well, whether you're right or wrong, I don't agree, so I guess I can't
answer your question.

As I told in the latter thread, I sometimes ask the people I care for this
strange question, qhen they are upset:

"What is the one thing that makes your life difficult to live, the one
thing you would remove from your life right know if you could, regardless
of the consequences?"

I don't expect members of theis NG to expose the nature of their problems.
But the question would be:

Can you identify clearly this problem?
I certainly can, in my case.

My life is far from perfect. I have a lot of personal problems to work
through. I cannot look at my life, though, and see anything I want to throw
away. I have many things I want and need to improve, and issues to work
through, but nothing to toss. (I guess I'm a lucky guy.)

For example, weight loss: Losing it slowly over a period of time takes great
will and determination. When I'm at the end of this long and winding road,
I'll be proud of myself for having taken on such a challenging task and
having made such a great accomplishment. If I were to simply "remove the
excess weight from my life right now regardless of the consequences", I will
have lost not just the weight but so much more.

Next time, turn your question around: "What is the one thing you would bring
into your life, right now, regardless of the consequences?" In other words,
who has their soul for sale, and for how much?

Hi, em,

"Hueyduck" wrote in message
...
Hi there,

In an ongoing thread started by Teena " "Meridia -- does it work?",
I explained to Teena how I would consider obesity to be the visible
symptom a psychological problem. I think as eating disorder as a
result of a addiction of some sort, much like alcoholism or tabacco
consumption.
Weither I am right or wrong is not what I was thinking about.

Well, whether you're right or wrong, I don't agree, so I guess I can't
answer your question.

Well that's a strange answer to a strange survey ;-)

As I told in the latter thread, I sometimes ask the people I care for
this strange question, qhen they are upset:

"What is the one thing that makes your life difficult to live, the one
thing you would remove from your life right know if you could,
regardless of the consequences?"

I don't expect members of theis NG to expose the nature of their
problems. But the question would be:

Can you identify clearly this problem?
I certainly can, in my case.

My life is far from perfect. I have a lot of personal problems to work
through. I cannot look at my life, though, and see anything I want to
throw away. I have many things I want and need to improve, and issues to
work through, but nothing to toss. (I guess I'm a lucky guy.)

Indeed you are :-)

For example, weight loss: Losing it slowly over a period of time takes
great will and determination. When I'm at the end of this long and
winding road, I'll be proud of myself for having taken on such a
challenging task and having made such a great accomplishment. If I were
to simply "remove the excess weight from my life right now regardless of
the consequences", I will have lost not just the weight but so much more.

I also think, sometimes, (and this is most weird to me), that I might
well be missing the quest of losing fat, once I will have lost
everything I need to drop. This thought reinforced the belief that I
might be fat to keep someone with me, in the end, refusing to let this
person go.

Next time, turn your question around: "What is the one thing you would
bring into your life, right now, regardless of the consequences?" In
other words, who has their soul for sale, and for how much?

I'm not sure I'm following you, here.
But anyway, if someone's soul is here for sale, I'm not a buyer. One
soul is already enough.

Huey

Hueyduck writes:

Sometimes I sum up the way I eatlike this: "I eat like a diabetic".
This explains everything to my friends(no sugar in your house? no
rice cispies, no coke , no cookies, no bread?).

That's what I thought I'd do too, but it turns out people have an even
worse understanding of that than low-carb -- even some people who are
diabetic themselves. After telling people I'm diabetic, I've been
offered everything from baked potato to whole-wheat spaghetti to
sugar-free pudding in a normal pie shell with Cool Whip. It hasn't
helped as much as I expected.

On a related note, why does it bother people so much to see a fat guy
(I don't think fat women get the same treatment) not eating much? Are
they afraid I just turned anorexic after a lifetime of pudgy? Do they
assume I don't like their food, since a guy my size would *obviously*
be stuffing himself if it were good? If my skin-and-bones cousin
doesn't eat anything at all at a family gathering, no one will even
notice; but if I don't go back for thirds, I get people reminding me
there's plenty more.

It's so backwards. I've gotten to where I can just smile and say I've
had plenty, but it's still annoying to have to go through that every
time.



--
Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

Aaron Baugher a écrit :
Hueyduck writes:

Sometimes I sum up the way I eatlike this: "I eat like a diabetic".
This explains everything to my friends(no sugar in your house? no
rice cispies, no coke , no cookies, no bread?).

That's what I thought I'd do too, but it turns out people have an even
worse understanding of that than low-carb -- even some people who are
diabetic themselves. After telling people I'm diabetic, I've been
offered everything from baked potato to whole-wheat spaghetti to
sugar-free pudding in a normal pie shell with Cool Whip.

Gasp... :-) At least people here tend to know what a diabetic don't eat.
It's the cholesterol part that is funny. My mother struggles against
cholesterol by eating potatoes with margarine (yes, the transfat kind,
of course). It's hard to make people understand that what promotes
cholesterol in a sugary cream coffe is not the cream but the sugar.
Lately the doctor of my mom finaly told her that the potatoes where not
good for cholesterol. But a few years ago, I could still hear things
like " 3to 4 eggs a week is the most one should have, because of the
cholesterol risk". Mouahahahaha...
Anyway...
Now, I even found an easier way to let people know that thay won't find
bread ion my house: I leave the ketostix in plain sight in the bathroom.
Works like a charm.

It hasn't
helped as much as I expected.

On a related note, why does it bother people so much to see a fat guy
(I don't think fat women get the same treatment) not eating much? Are
they afraid I just turned anorexic after a lifetime of pudgy? Do they
assume I don't like their food, since a guy my size would *obviously*
be stuffing himself if it were good?

This is quite true. I guess that one assumes that if you are "big
boned", you must eat much more than the skinny cousin (wich, on a
primary level is true). And so, if you don't take seconds, it just means
that you are shy or too polite to ask.
If my skin-and-bones cousin
doesn't eat anything at all at a family gathering, no one will even
notice; but if I don't go back for thirds, I get people reminding me
there's plenty more.
I think that family is most likely to do that, don't you?

It's so backwards. I've gotten to where I can just smile and say I've
had plenty, but it's still annoying to have to go through that every
time.

I have an answer that is a bit harsh, but I try say it with a smile.
When someone askes me again and again if I rrrreally don't want to
finish the bowl of watchcallit, on the third time, I smile and I say
"The fact that you're asking me three times will not change the fact
that I'm not hungry anymore, you know".
This phrase immediately says "Do you want to feed me or do you actually
want me to make you happy licking your bowl?".

Luckily, I don't have to use it too often.

Huey

Jackie Patti wrote in message
...

My landlord knows my garden died because of my hospitalization. He
keeps bringing me big batches of sweet corn. I know if I were to
mention diabetes, I'd get a reply along the lines of, "Bob was
diabetic
and he always ate corn." So... I don't even bother explaining
anymore.
I just smile, thank him, and cook up the corn for my husband and
daughter and compost the leftovers. Next year, they'll turn into
chard
and berries and bok choy in my own garden!

It's often much easier just to do that, sort of like the well meaning
people who bring cakes and cookies and things like that from the
store, because it says sugar free on it. They just don't seem to
comprehend the carb count on things, including some diabetics I know
IRL. :-)

Cheri