Meaningful Cubicle Exercises

Chris Braun wrote:
On 27 Oct 2006 19:26:29 -0700, "The Historian"
wrote:

While on the subject,. today I needed to get a paper file from one side
of the building to the other. What an opportunity to go for a run!
Fortunately there was no one in the way of the 285 pound freight train
that came storming through the halls. I was winded and happy! Next time
I should wear sneakers instead of wing-tips. :-(

I used to run through the building sometimes when I worked on
weekends. I think I'd have felt a bit self-conscious doing it when
other people were around, though.

I was 385 pounds. Running in the office looks sane next to that. :-)

Neil
385/285/220

Kirk Is wrote:

The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
Kirk Is wrote:

Alright I really need to butch up. I'm defintely slipping, and I think I
need to go back to my calorie counting, even if a larger porportion of
that is guesstimate.

Guessing doesn't work. Count them correctly or don't bother.

Reasonable estimates do, sweetie. And are certainly better than "not
bothering". Being off by, say, +/- 200 calories a day is fine, especially
if its the process and accountability that comes from recording gets
someone to have 1000 calories less a day.

You've already proven that you don't know what a reasonable estimate is.
It didn't work the first time, and it's going to continue not to work.

Same old queen, same old mediocre advice.

I'm not the one gaining weight because I can't follow a simple plan.

Kirk Is writes:

Do you think pushups and situps could usefully be incorporated to a
workday, like 3 or 4 breaks of 10 pushups and 20-30 situps each? It still
doesn't answer the question of aerobic activity, but still.

Maybe you need to get one of those exercise bike desks for your
cubicle? http://www.slimgeek.com/

"Anssi Saari" wrote in message
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Kirk Is writes:

Do you think pushups and situps could usefully be incorporated to a
workday, like 3 or 4 breaks of 10 pushups and 20-30 situps each? It still
doesn't answer the question of aerobic activity, but still.

Maybe you need to get one of those exercise bike desks for your
cubicle? http://www.slimgeek.com/

I suggested that the college I work for get those for all us office workers.
The other office workers thought it was a neat idea. The administration
didn't. It's easier to hire a replacement when we get too sick to work and
let the state pay the disability costs than take proactive steps to keep us
healthy!

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
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Guessing doesn't work. Count them correctly or don't bother.

a) that doesn't make sense
b) insofar as I can assume I know what you mean, IMNSHO you're wrong, and
c) that's not a very nice thing to say . . .

.. . . so I'm assuming this is something personal, an assumption that appears
to borne out by the rest of this thread so far, so I'm simply voicing my
annoyance and moving on.

If guess-timating calories didn't "work," nobody would ever lose weight by
counting calories consumed, and/or calories burned, and/or food portions.
In fact, lots of people lose weight by guess-timating calories.

ep

Edna Pearl wrote:

If guess-timating calories didn't "work," nobody would ever lose weight by
counting calories consumed, and/or calories burned, and/or food portions.
In fact, lots of people lose weight by guess-timating calories.

You can't "guess" until you already have a solid grasp of what it
entails. Kirk does not.

Edna Pearl wrote:
"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
...
Guessing doesn't work. Count them correctly or don't bother.

a) that doesn't make sense
b) insofar as I can assume I know what you mean, IMNSHO you're wrong, and
c) that's not a very nice thing to say . . .

. . . so I'm assuming this is something personal, an assumption that appears
to borne out by the rest of this thread so far, so I'm simply voicing my
annoyance and moving on.

If guess-timating calories didn't "work," nobody would ever lose weight by
counting calories consumed, and/or calories burned, and/or food portions.
In fact, lots of people lose weight by guess-timating calories.

ep

Hi Edna,

Queen and Kirk have a history of such 'discussions.' I think Queen is
right in this instance. I spent years "guesstimating" my calories.
FFIDs do it all the time. That way they can tell themselves they are
'eating light' while packing it in.

I still remember when the light dawned for me. On the 8th of January,
2006, I sat down and added up my calories for the day. I was horrified
to discover that my 'light' eating was over 3000 calories! I ceased to
be a FFID from that moment.

Neil
385/285/220

Edna Pearl wrote:
"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
...
Guessing doesn't work. Count them correctly or don't bother.

a) that doesn't make sense
b) insofar as I can assume I know what you mean, IMNSHO you're wrong, and
c) that's not a very nice thing to say . . .

. . . so I'm assuming this is something personal, an assumption that appears
to borne out by the rest of this thread so far, so I'm simply voicing my
annoyance and moving on.

If guess-timating calories didn't "work," nobody would ever lose weight by
counting calories consumed, and/or calories burned, and/or food portions.
In fact, lots of people lose weight by guess-timating calories.

ep

Hi Edna,

Queen and Kirk have a history of such 'discussions.' I think Queen is
right in this instance. I spent years "guesstimating" my calories.
FFIDs do it all the time. That way they can tell themselves they are
'eating light' while packing it in.

I still remember when the light dawned for me. On the 8th of January,
2006, I sat down and added up my calories for the day. I was horrified
to discover that my 'light' eating was over 3000 calories! I ceased to
be a FFID from that moment.

Neil
385/285/220

"Edna Pearl" wrote in message
...
"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
...
Guessing doesn't work. Count them correctly or don't bother.

a) that doesn't make sense
b) insofar as I can assume I know what you mean, IMNSHO you're wrong, and
c) that's not a very nice thing to say . . .

. . . so I'm assuming this is something personal, an assumption that
appears to borne out by the rest of this thread so far, so I'm simply
voicing my annoyance and moving on.

If guess-timating calories didn't "work," nobody would ever lose weight by
counting calories consumed, and/or calories burned, and/or food portions.
In fact, lots of people lose weight by guess-timating calories.

ep



I think there's a posting history there that you aren't aware of.. in and of
itself, there's a reason for what she says..

She's rude.. as always.. but she does have a point.
Will~

The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
You've already proven that you don't know what a reasonable estimate is.
It didn't work the first time, and it's going to continue not to work.

Actually, you're wrong.

the first phase of my plan petered out when I *stopped* guesstimating
calories, *because of "your" kind of thinking* in the matter: I'm on the
road on a business trip, don't have access to easily "nutrition info" for
the food I have available, calorie count or composition, so I let it go,
and didn't resume even when I was back in my regular daily circumstances.

The act of calorie counting, getting "exact" counts when avaiable, making
estimates when not, with a lower than neccesary target to account for some
of the wiggleroom, is, by itself, a technique that I personally, and I
think others, find useful element in fufilling that first rule of dieting
"eat less". Saying get out your god damn micrometer or "don't bother" is
an idiotic form of black and white thinking.

Kirk 227/212/180
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