Why/How I made my choice...

Margaret wrote:
I needed to lose some weight and I lost 15 pounds of
fat - went from a size 12 to a size 4 in 4 weeks and am now continuing to
use them for the nutrition and to lose a few more inches.

You're a size 4 and came to a diet support group? Have you met
Buddee? (Although truth be told, I think Buddee is too good for
you. That bit about someone using your old IP address to post under your
name selling the same product you're using is just hilarious in a pathetic
sort of way.)

Wendy

Then your attorney will tell you that your IP address and the IP address on
the other posts WILL hold up in court. Otherwise, I'd suggest you find a
lawyer who specializes in internet crimes.

How do you think the music industry is going after the music pirates right
now?

And every post you've made, whether using your google account or your cox
via OE setup, and over multiple days, you still come from the same IP
address. Yes, your ISP issues you a static IP, but if you know anything
about computers, you also will know that you are issues a "lease" and that
lease is usually good for about 30 days, then the lease expires, you log
off, next time you log on again, you are issued a new lease... and that is
good for another 30 days. In many cases the way it ends up working is you
end up getting issued the same number for your next lease, so your IP
address will remain the same.

There is software out there that allows you to forge headers, but it will
NOT allow you to forge the IP address in the headers. Neither will google
allow you forge any headers what so ever.

Your stories and antics here just perpetuate the bad reputation that
herbalife has already made for itself. If you to try to turn people around
and change the reputation for herbalife, then I suggest you have a little
attitude change.

But the again, from what I can tell so far, you are much like "she who name
must not be spoken"

"Margaret" wrote in message
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Actually, I've only stuck around because my attorney suggested that if I
"engage" you people in conversation, someone might tip their hand.
Frankly,
though, you're right. I don't have time for this. That's what I pay *him*
for!


"determined" wrote in message
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"Margaret" wrote in message
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G'd I hope it turns out to be you... or one of the many others here
who
have
been equally "charming."

Time to go live my life. You all have fun with each other until you
find
one
of your own.

Oh, you have a life? Then by all means - don't let the door hit you in
the
ass on your way out.

Um, no, Margaret, that is him saying that YOU have been posting through
google. Your first post to this group was via google. When you started
this thread you did so via google:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=9f...0posting .goo
gle.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=9f...0posting .goo
gle.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=9f...0posting .goo
gle.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

And then there's all your posts from today, all orignating from the same
location:

Path:
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From: "Margaret"
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
References:



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Each and every one all from the same location.

I'm sure, if I had a bit more time on my hands, I could go searching deeper
to find out what email addy you were going by before 11/30, as herbaliers
usually change their emails regularly, after getting caught for violating
terms of service aggreements w/ their ISP's, but there are lots of ways to
track down posting history.


"Margaret" wrote in message
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Okay. So? Does that mean you post through Google?


"Jeri" wrote in message
.. .
"Margaret" wrote in message
news:9bQzb.75943$yJ.50527@okepread02
Oh, and one more thing, my ISP just confirmed that you can change
your IP address manually... but maybe you already knew that...!!

Not posting through Google you can't.

"JayJay" wrote in message
...
Then your attorney will tell you that your IP address and the IP address
on
the other posts WILL hold up in court. Otherwise, I'd suggest you find
a
lawyer who specializes in internet crimes.

How do you think the music industry is going after the music pirates right
now?

Well, that's a whole 'nother can of worms. I've worked in the underground
metal music scene for 20+ years. The *industry* (greedy major labels and
artists) want to cut off the resources the underground has altogether merely
to make a buck.

The free music exchange online was awesome for unknown and underground
bands. It was in direct response to the ripoff prices of CDs the *industry*
charges. Come on...$18.00 for a CD???? Does anyone realize how little that
cheap piece of plastic costs to make? (about $1.50). OK, so they make a
cazillion $$$ profit.

Unsigned bands and bands who are on little labels bring thousands of fans by
providing free music. The music is what's important, not becoming
millionnaires. Corporate shells like Selloutica can kiss my ass, AFAIC. Real
metal bands like Iron Maiden happily give they music away for free online,
because they know they're fans will love it enough to go and buy the CD
after they hear it online (Bruce Dickensen's direct words). And Maiden makes
lots of money, but they know what being a REAL band and not a kiss ass
top-40 piece of crap band is. (I love them...) They know that by providing
their fans with free music, they gain respect from their fans. It's a
beautiful thing.

Sorry, Jayjay, this is something near and dear to me. : )

Martha

"MH" wrote in message
...

"JayJay" wrote in message
...
Then your attorney will tell you that your IP address and the IP address
on
the other posts WILL hold up in court. Otherwise, I'd suggest you
find
a
lawyer who specializes in internet crimes.

How do you think the music industry is going after the music pirates
right
now?

Well, that's a whole 'nother can of worms. I've worked in the underground
metal music scene for 20+ years. The *industry* (greedy major labels and
artists) want to cut off the resources the underground has altogether
merely
to make a buck.

The free music exchange online was awesome for unknown and underground
bands. It was in direct response to the ripoff prices of CDs the
*industry*
charges. Come on...$18.00 for a CD???? Does anyone realize how little that
cheap piece of plastic costs to make? (about $1.50). OK, so they make a
cazillion $$$ profit.

Unsigned bands and bands who are on little labels bring thousands of fans
by
providing free music. The music is what's important, not becoming
millionnaires. Corporate shells like Selloutica can kiss my ass, AFAIC.
Real
metal bands like Iron Maiden happily give they music away for free online,
because they know they're fans will love it enough to go and buy the CD
after they hear it online (Bruce Dickensen's direct words). And Maiden
makes
lots of money, but they know what being a REAL band and not a kiss ass
top-40 piece of crap band is. (I love them...) They know that by providing
their fans with free music, they gain respect from their fans. It's a
beautiful thing.

Sorry, Jayjay, this is something near and dear to me. : )

Martha


Metal Chicks RAWK! ;-)

dave h




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"Wendy" wrote in message
...
Margaret wrote:
I needed to lose some weight and I lost 15 pounds of
fat - went from a size 12 to a size 4 in 4 weeks and am now continuing
to
use them for the nutrition and to lose a few more inches.

Erm, BULL****. Size 12 to size 4 in 4 weeks is utter bull****.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
"MH" wrote in message
...


Metal Chicks RAWK! ;-)

dave h


Thanks, Dave!

I'm going to see Cradle of Filth tonight. : )

Check out my website: www.bastmagazine.com

Martha