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Old December 9th, 2012, 01:38 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Doug Freyburger
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Dogman wrote:

Which is why a ketone meter is required.
E.g.,
https://www.abbottdiabetescare.com/p...-overview.html


Accurately measuring low levels of ketones in the blood should be a game
changer for anyone willing to learn to use and such an instrument. The
use of test strips was from the absence of such an instrument on the
market in the past. Any idea how long this has been on the market?

Jimmy Moore is currently using one in another n=1 experiment.
http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/j...-151-180/16584


Data, data, data. Most excellent. He does the high fat, medium
protein, low carb approach I have long recommended for busting stalls.
The fat content drives the glucagon.

He'd already lost ~200 pounds on a low-carb diet, but found himself in
a prolonged stall (a couple of years, I think). So with the use of a
ketone meter (to guide his diet, as there appears to be a "sweet spot"
for ketones and weight loss, and it's probably different for
everyone), he's *rapidly* losing weight again. I think Jimmy works out
way too much, but he's now on a glide path to get to what his ideal
weight probably is. We'll see.


Low carbing for triathelon folks. Okay.

PS: Yes, Doug, it's pretty easy to measure ketones accurately, but not
by peeing on a stick.


The sticks never had any accuracy but yes/no. Many never get this point.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 07:16 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Dogman
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Default Arguments In Favor Of Ketogenic Diets

On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 00:38:55 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
wrote:

Dogman wrote:

Which is why a ketone meter is required.
E.g.,
https://www.abbottdiabetescare.com/p...-overview.html


Accurately measuring low levels of ketones in the blood should be a game
changer for anyone willing to learn to use and such an instrument. The
use of test strips was from the absence of such an instrument on the
market in the past. Any idea how long this has been on the market?


In relatively affordable forms, my guess is ~ 15 years now.

The strips can be expensive, though. But once you have established a
dietary baseline, you shouldn't need to use the meter that often.

[...]
He'd already lost ~200 pounds on a low-carb diet, but found himself in
a prolonged stall (a couple of years, I think). So with the use of a
ketone meter (to guide his diet, as there appears to be a "sweet spot"
for ketones and weight loss, and it's probably different for
everyone), he's *rapidly* losing weight again. I think Jimmy works out
way too much, but he's now on a glide path to get to what his ideal
weight probably is. We'll see.


Low carbing for triathelon folks. Okay.


Exactly. FAT amounts to a steady, virtually inexhaustible fuel supply.

"Hitting the wall" happens when you run out of carbs and your body
doesn't know how to use FAT for fuel.

Carb-loading is for sprinters, not long-distance runners.

PS: Yes, Doug, it's pretty easy to measure ketones accurately, but not
by peeing on a stick.


The sticks never had any accuracy but yes/no. Many never get this point.


It get some people in the ballpark, at least initially (during the
induction phase), but sticks gradually lose their significance.

--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman
 




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